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@  GMan : (28 July 2015 - 05:34 PM)
@  redtiger : (28 July 2015 - 11:51 AM) I only say "we" when talking about Haysi and even then I try not to, im not involved with the team. Now, I may never say we again :( But I understand saying "we"
@  UVAObserver : (26 July 2015 - 10:53 PM) Tony Bennett lands the top transfer prospect in the country, former 5* PF Austin Nichols. Eligible in 2016.
@  blueinbama : (26 July 2015 - 05:45 PM) "We" will take that under consideration. ;)
@  futbolking : (25 July 2015 - 11:33 PM) if
@  futbolking : (25 July 2015 - 11:32 PM) I'd be surprised of RG3 takes a snap this season.
@  hokiebird7 : (25 July 2015 - 08:22 PM) Redskins will have a good team huh? Did they get rid of RG3 and/or Snyder and me not hear about it?
@  hokiebird7 : (25 July 2015 - 08:21 PM) You people can joke about it all you want...I couldn't care less....I just think it's dumb to say "we" when you really aren't or never have been a part of the team....or one you follow
@  futbolking : (25 July 2015 - 03:41 PM) I pull for the Redskins, we are going to have a good team year this year!! I'm also a WVU fan, didn't go to school there, but we should have a solid team.
@  blueinbama : (25 July 2015 - 11:01 AM) I say "we" when referring to the Braves, and I've never played MLB...but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.
@  Ryan4VT : (25 July 2015 - 03:22 AM) Well old habits die hard. I'll probably say we until the day I die
@  hokiebird7 : (24 July 2015 - 07:38 PM) Yes with Richlands and VT you have the right to say "We" because you went to school at both....I say "We" for Giles all the time because i went to school there and played sports there....but to say it for just a random team you follow IMO is dumb
@  Ryan4VT : (24 July 2015 - 07:13 PM) And as far as Chelsea, you may consider it a "humiliating" loss, but when we go on and win the league again, literally NO ONE will even remember that game except the kid that scored. :)
@  Ryan4VT : (24 July 2015 - 07:13 PM) I feel like I have the right to say "we" with Richlands and VT. I can see an argument against the others, but sports are a large part of who I am and who I identify with. So "we" is how I associate with them.
@  UVAObserver : (24 July 2015 - 04:41 PM) That's most award shows in a nutshell, from country music to the movie industry. But ESPN's is the most brazen.
@  GMan : (24 July 2015 - 03:49 PM) Listening to XM91 College Sports...Chris Childers has the quote of the year, "The ESPYs are three hours of ESPN kissing their own ass."
@  hokiebird7 : (24 July 2015 - 12:10 AM) Sorry Ryan but it just gets under my skin a little bit.....not hammering you personally
@  hokiebird7 : (24 July 2015 - 12:09 AM) Pet peeve of mine people saying "We" for a team they have nothing to do with other than just being a fan
@  UVAObserver : (23 July 2015 - 10:54 PM) Good. I care. And it's a humiliating loss whether you care or not.
@  Ryan4VT : (23 July 2015 - 07:49 PM) No matter what you want to say, I still don't care about a preseason friendly. Neither does Chelsea. We care about winning the EPL just like we did last year. This game doesn't matter.

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#1 thevols

 
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Posted 21 November 2013 - 06:55 PM

What do you guys think about this mess? I think it will go to court since they now have proof of DNA in the accuser's underwear.

Question for UVAObserver- How tough will it be to prove consensual vs. nonconsensual sex in this case?

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 07:57 PM

It's going to be awfully tough for the alleged victim in this matter. 

 

(1) The alleged victim's roommate has submitted an Affidavit that is very much supportive of Winston. 

(2) Facebook/Twitter shows a relationship that was established before the incident and continued on good terms well after.

(3) The alleged victim's statements do not stack up favorably when contrasted with that timeline.

(4) There's a significant lack of medical evidence within 72 hours following the incident.

(5) The alleged victim has tried to downplay the event in the few months preceding the public leak.

 

Frankly, with the evidence we know now, it looks like a case where both were likely drunk, and a case where remorse =/ rape.


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Posted 21 November 2013 - 09:44 PM

IMHO, this one is all about the civil suit to come.
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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:17 PM

It's going to be awfully tough for the alleged victim in this matter. 
 
(1) The alleged victim's roommate has submitted an Affidavit that is very much supportive of Winston. 
(2) Facebook/Twitter shows a relationship that was established before the incident and continued on good terms well after.
(3) The alleged victim's statements do not stack up favorably when contrasted with that timeline.
(4) There's a significant lack of medical evidence within 72 hours following the incident.
(5) The alleged victim has tried to downplay the event in the few months preceding the public leak.
 
Frankly, with the evidence we know now, it looks like a case where both were likely drunk, and a case where remorse =/ rape.

I think your last statement is probably true on both of them being drunk and then the remorse showed up the next morning.
Trial or no trial, this will cost the kid a lot. Jamies reputation and his decision making will be questioned. A possible Heisman, endorsements and maybe even slipping in the draft. I watched a little of First Take today and they had Robert Smith on as a guest, he said as a Heisman voter, that he would not vote for Jamies.

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 01:13 PM

I think your last statement is probably true on both of them being drunk and then the remorse showed up the next morning.
Trial or no trial, this will cost the kid a lot. Jamies reputation and his decision making will be questioned. A possible Heisman, endorsements and maybe even slipping in the draft. I watched a little of First Take today and they had Robert Smith on as a guest, he said as a Heisman voter, that he would not vote for Jamies.


I believe that the damage to Winston's reputation has already been done, very true. I think Winston would counter-sue for defamation if there's any civil suit coming against him.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 07:20 PM

UVAObserver, what do you make of this lengthy period of time the DA is exercising in their decision to charge Winston?  Is this good or bad for Winston in your experience?


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Posted 28 November 2013 - 04:34 AM

UVAObserver, what do you make of this lengthy period of time the DA is exercising in their decision to charge Winston?  Is this good or bad for Winston in your experience?


I don't make particularly much of the timing. I know the media's in "of course it comes out now" mode. Residing in this world, I can tell you that I represent clients with offenses dating back a considerable length of time (had one going back to 1994, I kid you not). The statutes of limitations on criminal offenses are almost excessively lengthy, but they are so to give the Commonwealth/State adequate time to build cases in often delicate matters.

I'm inclined to believe the prosecution. The timing is just unfortunate.

The DA knows of Winston's notoriety. He's going to make sure every protocol is followed to the T. There's millions of dollars riding on it if there isn't.
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