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@  Ryan4VT : (01 March 2015 - 06:37 PM) Thanks guys. :)
@  UVAObserver : (28 February 2015 - 11:04 PM) Weakest T in the history of officiating on Atkins. Then that wicked, doubly awesome jam, on the next possession. Way he should go out of JPJ.
@  UVAObserver : (28 February 2015 - 10:27 PM) It's like we give Nolte 5 token shots/game.
@  blueinbama : (28 February 2015 - 10:27 PM) Congratulations Ryan!
@  Bearcat Bob : (28 February 2015 - 10:17 PM) Evan Nolte must have some serious dirt on Bennett....
@  UVAObserver : (28 February 2015 - 09:44 PM) Thrilled for you. :)
@  futbolking : (28 February 2015 - 09:31 PM) that's awseome
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@  Ryan4VT : (28 February 2015 - 06:40 PM) It's official. I got my acceptance letter from the School of Music at Virginia Tech today. I am a Hokie. Finally.
@  BHS03 : (27 February 2015 - 03:53 AM) WVU's newest basketball signee, 5 year old Nicholas Wince:
@  BHS03 : (27 February 2015 - 03:47 AM) Can't wait for the conference and ncaa tourneys. I feel like this year will be very exciting
@  BigWinners : (27 February 2015 - 02:58 AM) But UVA has wins over top 10 RPI Maryland, and a slew of 20-30 RPI wins with only one loss to RPI 5 Duke. Winning at Maryland and VCU are big wins. Havent saw Nova's stats RPI-wise, but I doubt they can top UVA. Whats Villanova's best win?
@  UVAObserver : (26 February 2015 - 10:29 PM) But I think the boys should be a #1 with <4 losses.
@  UVAObserver : (26 February 2015 - 10:28 PM) If Villanova and UVA win out, they will have the same number of Top 50 wins. Dangerous team.
@  BigWinners : (26 February 2015 - 07:00 PM) I dont think even if UVA loses two games that Zona or Wisconsin can catch them, neither of those teams have the great resume that the Hoos have
@  Bearcat Bob : (26 February 2015 - 05:23 PM) After looking over the field, UVA should be a #1 even if they lose 1-2 games the rest of the way. Maybe Arizona/Wisconsin would sneak in if the "Hoos falter.
@  BigWinners : (26 February 2015 - 04:22 PM) Villanova has no real great wins and they beat up on a bad conference. Wisconsin maybe, but they dont have the same amount of great wins that UVA has.
@  UVAObserver : (26 February 2015 - 04:06 PM) Villanova. Perhaps Wisconsin still, if they can win the Big XIV Tournament.
@  BigWinners : (26 February 2015 - 04:02 PM) But Bob, what team could replace them?
@  UVAObserver : (26 February 2015 - 02:22 PM) As much as I think Gonzaga will flail yet again in the postseaaon, I think their #1 is justified. UK is locked into it absent some bizarre collapse. I would feel better if we close the deal on these next 3.

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#1 thevols

 
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Posted 21 November 2013 - 06:55 PM

What do you guys think about this mess? I think it will go to court since they now have proof of DNA in the accuser's underwear.

Question for UVAObserver- How tough will it be to prove consensual vs. nonconsensual sex in this case?

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 07:57 PM

It's going to be awfully tough for the alleged victim in this matter. 

 

(1) The alleged victim's roommate has submitted an Affidavit that is very much supportive of Winston. 

(2) Facebook/Twitter shows a relationship that was established before the incident and continued on good terms well after.

(3) The alleged victim's statements do not stack up favorably when contrasted with that timeline.

(4) There's a significant lack of medical evidence within 72 hours following the incident.

(5) The alleged victim has tried to downplay the event in the few months preceding the public leak.

 

Frankly, with the evidence we know now, it looks like a case where both were likely drunk, and a case where remorse =/ rape.


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Posted 21 November 2013 - 09:44 PM

IMHO, this one is all about the civil suit to come.
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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:17 PM

It's going to be awfully tough for the alleged victim in this matter. 
 
(1) The alleged victim's roommate has submitted an Affidavit that is very much supportive of Winston. 
(2) Facebook/Twitter shows a relationship that was established before the incident and continued on good terms well after.
(3) The alleged victim's statements do not stack up favorably when contrasted with that timeline.
(4) There's a significant lack of medical evidence within 72 hours following the incident.
(5) The alleged victim has tried to downplay the event in the few months preceding the public leak.
 
Frankly, with the evidence we know now, it looks like a case where both were likely drunk, and a case where remorse =/ rape.

I think your last statement is probably true on both of them being drunk and then the remorse showed up the next morning.
Trial or no trial, this will cost the kid a lot. Jamies reputation and his decision making will be questioned. A possible Heisman, endorsements and maybe even slipping in the draft. I watched a little of First Take today and they had Robert Smith on as a guest, he said as a Heisman voter, that he would not vote for Jamies.

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 01:13 PM

I think your last statement is probably true on both of them being drunk and then the remorse showed up the next morning.
Trial or no trial, this will cost the kid a lot. Jamies reputation and his decision making will be questioned. A possible Heisman, endorsements and maybe even slipping in the draft. I watched a little of First Take today and they had Robert Smith on as a guest, he said as a Heisman voter, that he would not vote for Jamies.


I believe that the damage to Winston's reputation has already been done, very true. I think Winston would counter-sue for defamation if there's any civil suit coming against him.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 07:20 PM

UVAObserver, what do you make of this lengthy period of time the DA is exercising in their decision to charge Winston?  Is this good or bad for Winston in your experience?


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Posted 28 November 2013 - 04:34 AM

UVAObserver, what do you make of this lengthy period of time the DA is exercising in their decision to charge Winston?  Is this good or bad for Winston in your experience?


I don't make particularly much of the timing. I know the media's in "of course it comes out now" mode. Residing in this world, I can tell you that I represent clients with offenses dating back a considerable length of time (had one going back to 1994, I kid you not). The statutes of limitations on criminal offenses are almost excessively lengthy, but they are so to give the Commonwealth/State adequate time to build cases in often delicate matters.

I'm inclined to believe the prosecution. The timing is just unfortunate.

The DA knows of Winston's notoriety. He's going to make sure every protocol is followed to the T. There's millions of dollars riding on it if there isn't.
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