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@  UVAObserver : (26 February 2017 - 01:08 AM) Galax is getting to be U-level these days...
@  redtiger : (24 February 2017 - 08:36 PM) WOW!!! thats big time
@  GMan : (24 February 2017 - 05:49 PM) WOW! That's some serious $hit! That's Leavenworth activity...
@  SXSW : (24 February 2017 - 04:27 PM) Sounds like they make it rain in Galax. Hundees by the dozen and fidies to light our fires...
@  sixcat : (24 February 2017 - 02:59 PM) More issues at Galax. 1st team MED & 1A-West football star arrested by the feds for operating a counterfeiting ring.
@  UVAObserver : (24 February 2017 - 01:55 AM) London has a tendency to sulk and whine when things don't go well for him. As the one senior on this team, that is an awful sign, and the juniors are following that lead.
@  Bearcat Bob : (22 February 2017 - 05:36 PM) Perrantes was playing lacksidasical before that shot. He failed to box out his man v. Villanova who got the game winning tap in. He had turnovers at the absolute worst time in several of their other losses. I know he is a good player but not this season.
@  Ryan4VT : (22 February 2017 - 02:47 PM) @GMan I was talking to a couple of writers (Wood, Barber) who cover both VT and UVA and they think that ball hanging on the flange has messed with London mentally. He hasn't been the same since that happened. And they know both teams very well.
@  Ryan4VT : (21 February 2017 - 07:51 PM) Not familiar with their program, but a member of this board who is a wrestling person mentioned their coach as a possible replacement.
@  Ryan4VT : (21 February 2017 - 07:51 PM) I think Robie is the best option. Especially if he can keep Zadick and St. John at VT. If now Robie, maybe the coach at South Dakota St.
@  GMan : (21 February 2017 - 06:00 PM) Virginia Tech broke UVA's basketball team...dropped 4 in a row now and can't even score 50 points in an OT game...sounds like their football team...
@  99Bama : (21 February 2017 - 01:37 PM) Hate to see Dresser leave. I think Robie will fill in pretty good though.
@  Ryan4VT : (20 February 2017 - 09:42 PM) He told us last night he would buy a ticket to the ACCs and NCAAs. Glad he'll at least be there.
@  Hokiebird7 : (20 February 2017 - 09:32 PM) He shouldnt coach them....i heard at first he would and was like WTH
@  Ryan4VT : (20 February 2017 - 09:13 PM) Dresser announces he's left VT for Iowa St. He won't coach the team at the ACCs or NCAAs, but will be in attendance at both.
@  BigWinners : (19 February 2017 - 03:10 AM) Holy shit, this D-leaguer stealing the show in the dunk contest.
@  BigWinners : (17 February 2017 - 12:53 AM) Damn now GW has their own Ryan Leaf situation. A coach screwing minors and doing drugs
@  BHS03 : (17 February 2017 - 12:33 AM) http://www.wdbj7.com...-414018433.html
@  BHS03 : (17 February 2017 - 12:30 AM) George Wythe assistant football coach arrested for having inappropriate relationship with student and possessing illegal drugs
@  GMan : (15 February 2017 - 06:29 PM) Someone was telling me about these new non-alcoholic wines on the market. I looked at them and asked "why not just drink grape juice?", got the thousand yard stare...

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#1 thevols

 
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Posted 21 November 2013 - 06:55 PM

What do you guys think about this mess? I think it will go to court since they now have proof of DNA in the accuser's underwear.

Question for UVAObserver- How tough will it be to prove consensual vs. nonconsensual sex in this case?

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 07:57 PM

It's going to be awfully tough for the alleged victim in this matter. 

 

(1) The alleged victim's roommate has submitted an Affidavit that is very much supportive of Winston. 

(2) Facebook/Twitter shows a relationship that was established before the incident and continued on good terms well after.

(3) The alleged victim's statements do not stack up favorably when contrasted with that timeline.

(4) There's a significant lack of medical evidence within 72 hours following the incident.

(5) The alleged victim has tried to downplay the event in the few months preceding the public leak.

 

Frankly, with the evidence we know now, it looks like a case where both were likely drunk, and a case where remorse =/ rape.


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Posted 21 November 2013 - 09:44 PM

IMHO, this one is all about the civil suit to come.
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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:17 PM

It's going to be awfully tough for the alleged victim in this matter. 
 
(1) The alleged victim's roommate has submitted an Affidavit that is very much supportive of Winston. 
(2) Facebook/Twitter shows a relationship that was established before the incident and continued on good terms well after.
(3) The alleged victim's statements do not stack up favorably when contrasted with that timeline.
(4) There's a significant lack of medical evidence within 72 hours following the incident.
(5) The alleged victim has tried to downplay the event in the few months preceding the public leak.
 
Frankly, with the evidence we know now, it looks like a case where both were likely drunk, and a case where remorse =/ rape.

I think your last statement is probably true on both of them being drunk and then the remorse showed up the next morning.
Trial or no trial, this will cost the kid a lot. Jamies reputation and his decision making will be questioned. A possible Heisman, endorsements and maybe even slipping in the draft. I watched a little of First Take today and they had Robert Smith on as a guest, he said as a Heisman voter, that he would not vote for Jamies.

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 01:13 PM

I think your last statement is probably true on both of them being drunk and then the remorse showed up the next morning.
Trial or no trial, this will cost the kid a lot. Jamies reputation and his decision making will be questioned. A possible Heisman, endorsements and maybe even slipping in the draft. I watched a little of First Take today and they had Robert Smith on as a guest, he said as a Heisman voter, that he would not vote for Jamies.


I believe that the damage to Winston's reputation has already been done, very true. I think Winston would counter-sue for defamation if there's any civil suit coming against him.
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Posted 27 November 2013 - 07:20 PM

UVAObserver, what do you make of this lengthy period of time the DA is exercising in their decision to charge Winston?  Is this good or bad for Winston in your experience?


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Posted 28 November 2013 - 04:34 AM

UVAObserver, what do you make of this lengthy period of time the DA is exercising in their decision to charge Winston?  Is this good or bad for Winston in your experience?


I don't make particularly much of the timing. I know the media's in "of course it comes out now" mode. Residing in this world, I can tell you that I represent clients with offenses dating back a considerable length of time (had one going back to 1994, I kid you not). The statutes of limitations on criminal offenses are almost excessively lengthy, but they are so to give the Commonwealth/State adequate time to build cases in often delicate matters.

I'm inclined to believe the prosecution. The timing is just unfortunate.

The DA knows of Winston's notoriety. He's going to make sure every protocol is followed to the T. There's millions of dollars riding on it if there isn't.
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