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@  Beamerball : (28 July 2014 - 01:04 AM) a step ahead of me redtiger haha
@  Beamerball : (28 July 2014 - 01:03 AM) https://www.facebook...152670768693825
@  Beamerball : (28 July 2014 - 01:03 AM) Check this one out...
@  redtiger : (28 July 2014 - 01:03 AM) yeah there are videos on wcyb of several tornadoes.1 ripped a house in half
@  Beamerball : (28 July 2014 - 01:01 AM) Yeah, they're starting to get close to us here again. That same earlier storm that crossed out of KY and hit us here in Lee, produced a tornado in the Kingsport/Johnson City area. Seen some videos of those.
@  redtiger : (28 July 2014 - 01:00 AM) saw a pic of a hail ball on wcyb that was softball sized. Everyone be careful tonight
@  GMan : (28 July 2014 - 12:39 AM) Buddy of mine posted pics of the wall cloud rolling through Knoxvegas...wicked!!! More supercell t-storms are poppin' in KY heading toward southern WV and SW VA. Could be a long night...
@  Beamerball : (27 July 2014 - 11:04 PM) It was wicked man. Baseball size hail, the most lightning I've ever seen from a storm, some strong winds, and some low, fast moving clouds. Unfortunately from location, the storm track didn't allow me a good look for any funnels, wall clouds, etc.
@  GMan : (27 July 2014 - 09:21 PM) Tornado warned cell in Lee and Scott county...hang on, Beamerball!!!
@  Beamerball : (27 July 2014 - 05:55 PM) Yeah, still a lot of cloud cover in the area and its keeping the instability down some. Still some high parameters though for severe weather. One of the worst outbreaks down here, produced the Glade Spring tornado, was an overcast day. We'll see if the dynamics can overcome it.
@  GMan : (27 July 2014 - 05:37 PM) Agreed. The risk is definitely there. However, I think, in my area at least, the overnight storms took some juice out of the atmoshpere. However, the storms back in KY look kinda bad.
@  Beamerball : (27 July 2014 - 01:49 PM) http://www.spc.noaa....k/day1otlk.html
@  Beamerball : (27 July 2014 - 01:49 PM) Keep an eye on the weather today. A rare moderate risk threat...definitely odd for July standards.
@  UVAObserver : (24 July 2014 - 06:47 PM) Mike London: "My priorities are in line: faith, family, and football. I'm 100% committed to football." Maths?
@  Ryan4VT : (23 July 2014 - 01:56 PM) Drummer of my band is in line for a Paramore concert in Charlotte and the girl beside him has heard of our band before.......that is insane.
@  Bulldogs52 : (22 July 2014 - 09:59 PM) will be hard to find a pick up truck around here under 4k unless it has so problems.....
@  EH31 : (22 July 2014 - 09:16 PM) is anyone selling an extended cab truck? under 4k ?
@  GMan : (22 July 2014 - 01:20 AM) No thanks. Got some painting to do around the house, think I'd rather sit there and watch it dry...
@  bhs7695 : (21 July 2014 - 12:15 PM) Anyone going to watch the Saints practice this summer?
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#1 thevols

 
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Posted 21 November 2013 - 06:55 PM

What do you guys think about this mess? I think it will go to court since they now have proof of DNA in the accuser's underwear.

Question for UVAObserver- How tough will it be to prove consensual vs. nonconsensual sex in this case?

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 07:57 PM

It's going to be awfully tough for the alleged victim in this matter. 

 

(1) The alleged victim's roommate has submitted an Affidavit that is very much supportive of Winston. 

(2) Facebook/Twitter shows a relationship that was established before the incident and continued on good terms well after.

(3) The alleged victim's statements do not stack up favorably when contrasted with that timeline.

(4) There's a significant lack of medical evidence within 72 hours following the incident.

(5) The alleged victim has tried to downplay the event in the few months preceding the public leak.

 

Frankly, with the evidence we know now, it looks like a case where both were likely drunk, and a case where remorse =/ rape.


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Posted 21 November 2013 - 09:44 PM

IMHO, this one is all about the civil suit to come.
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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:17 PM

It's going to be awfully tough for the alleged victim in this matter. 
 
(1) The alleged victim's roommate has submitted an Affidavit that is very much supportive of Winston. 
(2) Facebook/Twitter shows a relationship that was established before the incident and continued on good terms well after.
(3) The alleged victim's statements do not stack up favorably when contrasted with that timeline.
(4) There's a significant lack of medical evidence within 72 hours following the incident.
(5) The alleged victim has tried to downplay the event in the few months preceding the public leak.
 
Frankly, with the evidence we know now, it looks like a case where both were likely drunk, and a case where remorse =/ rape.

I think your last statement is probably true on both of them being drunk and then the remorse showed up the next morning.
Trial or no trial, this will cost the kid a lot. Jamies reputation and his decision making will be questioned. A possible Heisman, endorsements and maybe even slipping in the draft. I watched a little of First Take today and they had Robert Smith on as a guest, he said as a Heisman voter, that he would not vote for Jamies.

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 01:13 PM

I think your last statement is probably true on both of them being drunk and then the remorse showed up the next morning.
Trial or no trial, this will cost the kid a lot. Jamies reputation and his decision making will be questioned. A possible Heisman, endorsements and maybe even slipping in the draft. I watched a little of First Take today and they had Robert Smith on as a guest, he said as a Heisman voter, that he would not vote for Jamies.


I believe that the damage to Winston's reputation has already been done, very true. I think Winston would counter-sue for defamation if there's any civil suit coming against him.
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Posted 27 November 2013 - 07:20 PM

UVAObserver, what do you make of this lengthy period of time the DA is exercising in their decision to charge Winston?  Is this good or bad for Winston in your experience?


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Posted 28 November 2013 - 04:34 AM

UVAObserver, what do you make of this lengthy period of time the DA is exercising in their decision to charge Winston?  Is this good or bad for Winston in your experience?


I don't make particularly much of the timing. I know the media's in "of course it comes out now" mode. Residing in this world, I can tell you that I represent clients with offenses dating back a considerable length of time (had one going back to 1994, I kid you not). The statutes of limitations on criminal offenses are almost excessively lengthy, but they are so to give the Commonwealth/State adequate time to build cases in often delicate matters.

I'm inclined to believe the prosecution. The timing is just unfortunate.

The DA knows of Winston's notoriety. He's going to make sure every protocol is followed to the T. There's millions of dollars riding on it if there isn't.
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