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@  UVAObserver : (30 March 2015 - 03:51 PM) And UVA's winning streak just grew by 2.
@  GMan : (29 March 2015 - 10:04 PM) I guess winning two ACC tournament games was enough to save his job...smh...
@  bhs7695 : (29 March 2015 - 03:45 PM) GMan I'm sure you like the decision of Babcock to retain Wolff another year
@  Lance : (28 March 2015 - 04:23 AM) i changed it...sorry i was down in Kingsport, couldnt do it until i got home.
@  UVAObserver : (28 March 2015 - 02:06 AM) I read the administrator's posts as a disembodied voice in the style of Morgan Freeman.
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@  GMan : (28 March 2015 - 01:32 AM) Hey Admin...I sent him a message. Hopefully he'll see it and take care of it soon. Thanks!
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@  Bearcat Bob : (27 March 2015 - 12:12 PM) I really do not blame the WVU guy for saying that...maybe he could have said it differently. However, going o'fer in the game did not help his team.
@  UVAObserver : (27 March 2015 - 11:03 AM) So...UK hit the game-winning shot in the first half. That jack-slapping WVU got was hilarious after the 36-1 talk.
@  bhs7695 : (27 March 2015 - 04:01 AM) He's a bit small for the ACC and doesn't play defense well enough for Buzz. I'm not surprised he's leaving. Wish him well and there could be one or two more leave soon.
@  UVAObserver : (26 March 2015 - 08:07 PM) The Invisible Hand transferring from VT. Surprising move considering that he and Bibbs were the only non-cadavers that VT trotted out last year.
@  GMan : (24 March 2015 - 07:11 PM) Here's another Brooklyn Vick "highlight" video...
@  GMan : (23 March 2015 - 06:18 PM) Buzz needs to go ahead and offer this "home town" prodigy...Brooklyn Vick, Blacksburg, VA. Watch for the ankle-breaking cross-over dribble drive about half way through the vid (they even replay it in slo-mo).
@  Bearcat Bob : (23 March 2015 - 12:18 PM) I was terribly wrong in saying that UVA baseball had righted the ship. After winning game one v. FSU, the lost the next two giving up 25 runs in those two games. I actually went to Sundays game instead of watching the basketball game. Should have just planted iris bulbs and skipped both.
@  UVAObserver : (23 March 2015 - 11:26 AM) GMan...now you see why I named my brackets as I did.

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#1 thevols

 
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Posted 21 November 2013 - 06:55 PM

What do you guys think about this mess? I think it will go to court since they now have proof of DNA in the accuser's underwear.

Question for UVAObserver- How tough will it be to prove consensual vs. nonconsensual sex in this case?

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 07:57 PM

It's going to be awfully tough for the alleged victim in this matter. 

 

(1) The alleged victim's roommate has submitted an Affidavit that is very much supportive of Winston. 

(2) Facebook/Twitter shows a relationship that was established before the incident and continued on good terms well after.

(3) The alleged victim's statements do not stack up favorably when contrasted with that timeline.

(4) There's a significant lack of medical evidence within 72 hours following the incident.

(5) The alleged victim has tried to downplay the event in the few months preceding the public leak.

 

Frankly, with the evidence we know now, it looks like a case where both were likely drunk, and a case where remorse =/ rape.


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Posted 21 November 2013 - 09:44 PM

IMHO, this one is all about the civil suit to come.
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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:17 PM

It's going to be awfully tough for the alleged victim in this matter. 
 
(1) The alleged victim's roommate has submitted an Affidavit that is very much supportive of Winston. 
(2) Facebook/Twitter shows a relationship that was established before the incident and continued on good terms well after.
(3) The alleged victim's statements do not stack up favorably when contrasted with that timeline.
(4) There's a significant lack of medical evidence within 72 hours following the incident.
(5) The alleged victim has tried to downplay the event in the few months preceding the public leak.
 
Frankly, with the evidence we know now, it looks like a case where both were likely drunk, and a case where remorse =/ rape.

I think your last statement is probably true on both of them being drunk and then the remorse showed up the next morning.
Trial or no trial, this will cost the kid a lot. Jamies reputation and his decision making will be questioned. A possible Heisman, endorsements and maybe even slipping in the draft. I watched a little of First Take today and they had Robert Smith on as a guest, he said as a Heisman voter, that he would not vote for Jamies.

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 01:13 PM

I think your last statement is probably true on both of them being drunk and then the remorse showed up the next morning.
Trial or no trial, this will cost the kid a lot. Jamies reputation and his decision making will be questioned. A possible Heisman, endorsements and maybe even slipping in the draft. I watched a little of First Take today and they had Robert Smith on as a guest, he said as a Heisman voter, that he would not vote for Jamies.


I believe that the damage to Winston's reputation has already been done, very true. I think Winston would counter-sue for defamation if there's any civil suit coming against him.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 07:20 PM

UVAObserver, what do you make of this lengthy period of time the DA is exercising in their decision to charge Winston?  Is this good or bad for Winston in your experience?


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Posted 28 November 2013 - 04:34 AM

UVAObserver, what do you make of this lengthy period of time the DA is exercising in their decision to charge Winston?  Is this good or bad for Winston in your experience?


I don't make particularly much of the timing. I know the media's in "of course it comes out now" mode. Residing in this world, I can tell you that I represent clients with offenses dating back a considerable length of time (had one going back to 1994, I kid you not). The statutes of limitations on criminal offenses are almost excessively lengthy, but they are so to give the Commonwealth/State adequate time to build cases in often delicate matters.

I'm inclined to believe the prosecution. The timing is just unfortunate.

The DA knows of Winston's notoriety. He's going to make sure every protocol is followed to the T. There's millions of dollars riding on it if there isn't.
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