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@  UVAObserver : (16 September 2014 - 05:38 PM) Now wondering if they were clients of mine, LOL. Probably not.
@  stu_bean : (16 September 2014 - 05:28 PM) Yep I was there!
@  GMan : (16 September 2014 - 05:27 PM) http://www.wvva.com/...efield-virginia
@  stu_bean : (16 September 2014 - 05:15 PM) Could be something else though...
@  stu_bean : (16 September 2014 - 05:12 PM) I just came from walmart up here and they were in there with a police dog and I heard the comment made that there were two escaped inmates in there. Co police and Bluefield town had the entrances blocked not allowing anyone in and I hear them say one had been captured inside.
@  stu_bean : (16 September 2014 - 05:11 PM) I believe it is a case of escaped inmates
@  GMan : (16 September 2014 - 04:42 PM) Now they just went back toward Tazewell...
@  UVAObserver : (16 September 2014 - 04:19 PM) Noticed the same myself. Officers tearing down Main Street like their hair was on fire.
@  GMan : (16 September 2014 - 03:05 PM) What's happening on the west end of Tazewell Co.? Every State and County cop has passed my office with lights on and sirens blaring heading toward Claypool Hill.
@  HurricaneWar... : (16 September 2014 - 12:28 AM) BHS, you ever been to a game in Buffalo?
@  UVAObserver : (15 September 2014 - 02:14 AM) Wait...
@  UVAObserver : (15 September 2014 - 02:14 AM) I'm so glad Washington didn't make the worst draft-day trade in history to acquire RGIII, and that he's the Rams' problem.
@  BHS03 : (15 September 2014 - 01:02 AM) Yup. GO Bills!
@  Ryan4VT : (14 September 2014 - 11:49 PM) Only 1 team in our fantasy league cracked 100 points today as of right now……that's insane.
@  Ryan4VT : (14 September 2014 - 10:55 PM) Fasano from KC just had an amazing circus catch.
@  HurricaneWar... : (14 September 2014 - 09:51 PM) Go Bills! 2-0
@  redtiger : (14 September 2014 - 08:58 PM) RG3 is flashier than Cousins but I would rather have Cousins. Hes steady and does enough. To me he looks as good as Flacco or Dalton
@  redtiger : (14 September 2014 - 08:57 PM) GO COWBOYS!!!! Run the ball and let Romo play within the offense. Good game plan.
@  Ryan4VT : (14 September 2014 - 08:08 PM) And Titans fans come crashing back to reality.
@  bigcotton : (14 September 2014 - 08:01 PM) Well this time RGIII injured himself, he didnt even get hit this time.

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#1 thevols

 
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Posted 21 November 2013 - 06:55 PM

What do you guys think about this mess? I think it will go to court since they now have proof of DNA in the accuser's underwear.

Question for UVAObserver- How tough will it be to prove consensual vs. nonconsensual sex in this case?

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 07:57 PM

It's going to be awfully tough for the alleged victim in this matter. 

 

(1) The alleged victim's roommate has submitted an Affidavit that is very much supportive of Winston. 

(2) Facebook/Twitter shows a relationship that was established before the incident and continued on good terms well after.

(3) The alleged victim's statements do not stack up favorably when contrasted with that timeline.

(4) There's a significant lack of medical evidence within 72 hours following the incident.

(5) The alleged victim has tried to downplay the event in the few months preceding the public leak.

 

Frankly, with the evidence we know now, it looks like a case where both were likely drunk, and a case where remorse =/ rape.


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Posted 21 November 2013 - 09:44 PM

IMHO, this one is all about the civil suit to come.
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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:17 PM

It's going to be awfully tough for the alleged victim in this matter. 
 
(1) The alleged victim's roommate has submitted an Affidavit that is very much supportive of Winston. 
(2) Facebook/Twitter shows a relationship that was established before the incident and continued on good terms well after.
(3) The alleged victim's statements do not stack up favorably when contrasted with that timeline.
(4) There's a significant lack of medical evidence within 72 hours following the incident.
(5) The alleged victim has tried to downplay the event in the few months preceding the public leak.
 
Frankly, with the evidence we know now, it looks like a case where both were likely drunk, and a case where remorse =/ rape.

I think your last statement is probably true on both of them being drunk and then the remorse showed up the next morning.
Trial or no trial, this will cost the kid a lot. Jamies reputation and his decision making will be questioned. A possible Heisman, endorsements and maybe even slipping in the draft. I watched a little of First Take today and they had Robert Smith on as a guest, he said as a Heisman voter, that he would not vote for Jamies.

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 01:13 PM

I think your last statement is probably true on both of them being drunk and then the remorse showed up the next morning.
Trial or no trial, this will cost the kid a lot. Jamies reputation and his decision making will be questioned. A possible Heisman, endorsements and maybe even slipping in the draft. I watched a little of First Take today and they had Robert Smith on as a guest, he said as a Heisman voter, that he would not vote for Jamies.


I believe that the damage to Winston's reputation has already been done, very true. I think Winston would counter-sue for defamation if there's any civil suit coming against him.
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Posted 27 November 2013 - 07:20 PM

UVAObserver, what do you make of this lengthy period of time the DA is exercising in their decision to charge Winston?  Is this good or bad for Winston in your experience?


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Posted 28 November 2013 - 04:34 AM

UVAObserver, what do you make of this lengthy period of time the DA is exercising in their decision to charge Winston?  Is this good or bad for Winston in your experience?


I don't make particularly much of the timing. I know the media's in "of course it comes out now" mode. Residing in this world, I can tell you that I represent clients with offenses dating back a considerable length of time (had one going back to 1994, I kid you not). The statutes of limitations on criminal offenses are almost excessively lengthy, but they are so to give the Commonwealth/State adequate time to build cases in often delicate matters.

I'm inclined to believe the prosecution. The timing is just unfortunate.

The DA knows of Winston's notoriety. He's going to make sure every protocol is followed to the T. There's millions of dollars riding on it if there isn't.
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