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@  redtiger : (02 September 2014 - 12:54 AM) at least they are team/school colors. Nothing I hate more than wearing black when your school colors dont include black
@  futbolking : (02 September 2014 - 12:43 AM) Can they not wear a uniform that somewhat resembles their normal unis? Miami looks kinda girlie in those things...
@  futbolking : (02 September 2014 - 12:42 AM) Who are these two teams playing on ESPN tonight??
@  Plywood_King : (01 September 2014 - 11:00 PM) Pretty sure the Bobcats won: http://www.wdbj7.com...adford/27776006
@  BHS03 : (01 September 2014 - 09:15 PM) Cheap shot lol
@  Ryan4VT : (01 September 2014 - 02:52 AM) Drats!!! I thought I had saw Raddy won that, but when I saw GW in the Scores thread I just went with it. Update coming shortly
@  gwave0333 : (01 September 2014 - 02:47 AM) Hey Ryan sent you a PM
@  Ryan4VT : (01 September 2014 - 02:07 AM) Week 1 results up
@  Ryan4VT : (31 August 2014 - 08:32 PM) FANTASY DRAFT IN 30 MINUTES
@  Bearcat Bob : (31 August 2014 - 05:48 PM) I'm not saying that a change was not necessary in THIS game. But London has played merry-go-round with his QB's since day one. If a player is constantly looking over his shoulder, it is hard to play.
@  UVAObserver : (31 August 2014 - 03:21 PM) I think throwing 2 pick-6s, one of which Lambert gave up on the pursuit, was more than a fair reason to bench him. Of all the things on which to put at Mike London's feet...that's weaksauce. He made the right decision on that one. I'm no fan of Fairchild's scheme usually, but he called a halfway-decent game. Just too predictable on rushes.
@  futbolking : (31 August 2014 - 02:10 PM) I'm sure he will be micro-managed appropriately.....
@  Bearcat Bob : (31 August 2014 - 12:49 PM) UVA found a QB! THat is until he throws a pick, holds his mouth the wrong way, or does something London thinks requires a change...no wonder Hackenberg went to Penn State instead of UVA. No decent QB should go to UVA until there is a change at the top.
@  GMan : (31 August 2014 - 12:07 PM) ARRRGGG! Jellyfish stings are itching this morning...
@  GMan : (31 August 2014 - 11:26 AM) No, they were penalized because #13 for WVU took a cheap shot at the 'bama QB as he ran out of bounds...
@  BHS03 : (31 August 2014 - 06:24 AM) http://www.sbnation....-walter-penalty
@  BHS03 : (31 August 2014 - 06:24 AM) ACC refs = very screwy
@  Ryan4VT : (31 August 2014 - 03:45 AM) FSU was lucky to squeak out of that one……OKST out-played them for most of the game.
@  UVAObserver : (31 August 2014 - 02:31 AM) I went to Charlottesville today. UVA looks like a MUCH different team than the last two years. Three fluky TDs off turnovers. But the D was STOUT. And we may have found a QB today...
@  futbolking : (30 August 2014 - 10:22 PM) WVU putting up a good fight against Alabama

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#1 thevols

 
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Posted 21 November 2013 - 06:55 PM

What do you guys think about this mess? I think it will go to court since they now have proof of DNA in the accuser's underwear.

Question for UVAObserver- How tough will it be to prove consensual vs. nonconsensual sex in this case?

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 07:57 PM

It's going to be awfully tough for the alleged victim in this matter. 

 

(1) The alleged victim's roommate has submitted an Affidavit that is very much supportive of Winston. 

(2) Facebook/Twitter shows a relationship that was established before the incident and continued on good terms well after.

(3) The alleged victim's statements do not stack up favorably when contrasted with that timeline.

(4) There's a significant lack of medical evidence within 72 hours following the incident.

(5) The alleged victim has tried to downplay the event in the few months preceding the public leak.

 

Frankly, with the evidence we know now, it looks like a case where both were likely drunk, and a case where remorse =/ rape.


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Posted 21 November 2013 - 09:44 PM

IMHO, this one is all about the civil suit to come.
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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:17 PM

It's going to be awfully tough for the alleged victim in this matter. 
 
(1) The alleged victim's roommate has submitted an Affidavit that is very much supportive of Winston. 
(2) Facebook/Twitter shows a relationship that was established before the incident and continued on good terms well after.
(3) The alleged victim's statements do not stack up favorably when contrasted with that timeline.
(4) There's a significant lack of medical evidence within 72 hours following the incident.
(5) The alleged victim has tried to downplay the event in the few months preceding the public leak.
 
Frankly, with the evidence we know now, it looks like a case where both were likely drunk, and a case where remorse =/ rape.

I think your last statement is probably true on both of them being drunk and then the remorse showed up the next morning.
Trial or no trial, this will cost the kid a lot. Jamies reputation and his decision making will be questioned. A possible Heisman, endorsements and maybe even slipping in the draft. I watched a little of First Take today and they had Robert Smith on as a guest, he said as a Heisman voter, that he would not vote for Jamies.

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 01:13 PM

I think your last statement is probably true on both of them being drunk and then the remorse showed up the next morning.
Trial or no trial, this will cost the kid a lot. Jamies reputation and his decision making will be questioned. A possible Heisman, endorsements and maybe even slipping in the draft. I watched a little of First Take today and they had Robert Smith on as a guest, he said as a Heisman voter, that he would not vote for Jamies.


I believe that the damage to Winston's reputation has already been done, very true. I think Winston would counter-sue for defamation if there's any civil suit coming against him.
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Posted 27 November 2013 - 07:20 PM

UVAObserver, what do you make of this lengthy period of time the DA is exercising in their decision to charge Winston?  Is this good or bad for Winston in your experience?


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Posted 28 November 2013 - 04:34 AM

UVAObserver, what do you make of this lengthy period of time the DA is exercising in their decision to charge Winston?  Is this good or bad for Winston in your experience?


I don't make particularly much of the timing. I know the media's in "of course it comes out now" mode. Residing in this world, I can tell you that I represent clients with offenses dating back a considerable length of time (had one going back to 1994, I kid you not). The statutes of limitations on criminal offenses are almost excessively lengthy, but they are so to give the Commonwealth/State adequate time to build cases in often delicate matters.

I'm inclined to believe the prosecution. The timing is just unfortunate.

The DA knows of Winston's notoriety. He's going to make sure every protocol is followed to the T. There's millions of dollars riding on it if there isn't.
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