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@  redtiger : (20 January 2017 - 02:02 PM) imo its Clemson or VT. VT being the home school and its obvious what Clemson offers. I hope he goes to VT but if he picks Clemson who could blame him
@  Dick_Vitale : (20 January 2017 - 01:50 PM) Don't forget Duke! Not a big athletic football name but the education is the best on his list.
@  GC_Quincy : (20 January 2017 - 11:53 AM) Clemson is still relatively close to home. It's still a good "tough" spot to be in for a high school kid.
@  BigWinners : (20 January 2017 - 06:50 AM) He def wants to play TE,an Clemson/VT both use TEs well
@  Ryan4VT : (20 January 2017 - 02:06 AM) Maybe. We don't really know. He could value being close to home and playing time over a championship and the risk of not getting as much playing. Who knows.
@  GMan : (20 January 2017 - 02:04 AM) A National Championship??? Maybe???
@  Ryan4VT : (19 January 2017 - 08:15 PM) @UVAObserver But are his chances of seeing the field better at VT or ND or Clemson? I'm not sure what his primary motivation is.
@  UVAObserver : (19 January 2017 - 08:00 PM) He'd be crazy not to go to Clemson if football is not his primary motivation.
@  Milo : (18 January 2017 - 02:25 PM) Thanks to all the people who provide scores and updates on this site, very much appreciated!
@  Dick_Vitale : (18 January 2017 - 02:20 PM) Clemson offered James Mitchell (Union) last night. Impressive!
@  Ryan4VT : (14 January 2017 - 07:07 PM) Really good crowd in Cassell for a Jan (winter break) game vs. a team not named Duke, UNC, or lolUVA.
@  GMan : (11 January 2017 - 09:36 PM) Fixed it. Dang, Galax isn't very good this year...
@  yjake18 : (11 January 2017 - 08:05 PM) The Galax and Pulaski Co. basketball game that is listed as Galax winning 48-45 is wrong. That was the girls game result. Cougar boys won 55-29. to go with the other win over Galax 72-20.
@  UVAObserver : (11 January 2017 - 02:53 AM) Roll Tears Roll
@  GMan : (10 January 2017 - 06:20 PM) Sorry, y'all. Server updates took us offline for a bit, but were back and better than ever.
@  SXSW : (10 January 2017 - 05:39 PM) I think the Bama fans hacked the system so they would not have to listen to anyone today. Congrats to Clemson I didn't think they could do it!
@  cityofRaven : (10 January 2017 - 05:22 PM) Holy Hell, we're back!!!
@  administrator : (10 January 2017 - 05:10 PM) BIG sale at Red Lobster
@  Hokie777 : (08 January 2017 - 03:04 PM) Yes..What team would see Evans in their future 3- 5 years down the road.. cause that might be the length to acclimate him
@  Hokiebird7 : (08 January 2017 - 01:50 AM) Cook was better than evans coming out of college....imagine how bad oakland would have looked with evans at qb today

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#1 thevols

 
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Posted 21 November 2013 - 06:55 PM

What do you guys think about this mess? I think it will go to court since they now have proof of DNA in the accuser's underwear.

Question for UVAObserver- How tough will it be to prove consensual vs. nonconsensual sex in this case?

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 07:57 PM

It's going to be awfully tough for the alleged victim in this matter. 

 

(1) The alleged victim's roommate has submitted an Affidavit that is very much supportive of Winston. 

(2) Facebook/Twitter shows a relationship that was established before the incident and continued on good terms well after.

(3) The alleged victim's statements do not stack up favorably when contrasted with that timeline.

(4) There's a significant lack of medical evidence within 72 hours following the incident.

(5) The alleged victim has tried to downplay the event in the few months preceding the public leak.

 

Frankly, with the evidence we know now, it looks like a case where both were likely drunk, and a case where remorse =/ rape.


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Posted 21 November 2013 - 09:44 PM

IMHO, this one is all about the civil suit to come.
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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:17 PM

It's going to be awfully tough for the alleged victim in this matter. 
 
(1) The alleged victim's roommate has submitted an Affidavit that is very much supportive of Winston. 
(2) Facebook/Twitter shows a relationship that was established before the incident and continued on good terms well after.
(3) The alleged victim's statements do not stack up favorably when contrasted with that timeline.
(4) There's a significant lack of medical evidence within 72 hours following the incident.
(5) The alleged victim has tried to downplay the event in the few months preceding the public leak.
 
Frankly, with the evidence we know now, it looks like a case where both were likely drunk, and a case where remorse =/ rape.

I think your last statement is probably true on both of them being drunk and then the remorse showed up the next morning.
Trial or no trial, this will cost the kid a lot. Jamies reputation and his decision making will be questioned. A possible Heisman, endorsements and maybe even slipping in the draft. I watched a little of First Take today and they had Robert Smith on as a guest, he said as a Heisman voter, that he would not vote for Jamies.

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 01:13 PM

I think your last statement is probably true on both of them being drunk and then the remorse showed up the next morning.
Trial or no trial, this will cost the kid a lot. Jamies reputation and his decision making will be questioned. A possible Heisman, endorsements and maybe even slipping in the draft. I watched a little of First Take today and they had Robert Smith on as a guest, he said as a Heisman voter, that he would not vote for Jamies.


I believe that the damage to Winston's reputation has already been done, very true. I think Winston would counter-sue for defamation if there's any civil suit coming against him.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 07:20 PM

UVAObserver, what do you make of this lengthy period of time the DA is exercising in their decision to charge Winston?  Is this good or bad for Winston in your experience?


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Posted 28 November 2013 - 04:34 AM

UVAObserver, what do you make of this lengthy period of time the DA is exercising in their decision to charge Winston?  Is this good or bad for Winston in your experience?


I don't make particularly much of the timing. I know the media's in "of course it comes out now" mode. Residing in this world, I can tell you that I represent clients with offenses dating back a considerable length of time (had one going back to 1994, I kid you not). The statutes of limitations on criminal offenses are almost excessively lengthy, but they are so to give the Commonwealth/State adequate time to build cases in often delicate matters.

I'm inclined to believe the prosecution. The timing is just unfortunate.

The DA knows of Winston's notoriety. He's going to make sure every protocol is followed to the T. There's millions of dollars riding on it if there isn't.
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