Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 http://deadspin.com/asshole-college-football-coach-comes-up-with-new-way-to-1726804159 Bud being Bud. Warning: PG-13 language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokiebird7 1,416 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 Exactly why I don't want him as the next head coach at VT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,913 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 This could be some insight into why he hasn't landed a head coaching job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,546 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 It was never implemented. Just discussed. And the university shot it down real quick. If you think other programs haven't looked into it, you're fooling yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,913 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 Foster lacks a certain perspective on perception and, in my opinion, that has played a key role in him never getting a head coaching position. People outside the fan base aren't going to give two shits whether it was implemented or not. He failed to see public perception which, in the modern information age is largely reality. Bearcat Bob and Deleted Account 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokiebird7 1,416 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 That's one of the reasons he hasn't gotten a head coaching job....there are more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1inStripes 932 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 I dont think this is Bud's issue. Looks like Frank was the one hiding the truth last night after Buds discussion with the media. http://www.richmond.com/sports/college/football/article_c06228f6-c21b-50c8-a9fc-c5035808702d.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokiebird7 1,416 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 After reading more about this and thinking about it I think players should get fined if they screw up....hold them accountable for their stupid actions....if they are going to basically give them free money(plus a free scholly worth alot more) then fine them if they screw up....or just don't give them free money in the first place like I think they should.....if they want to get paid so bad then pay them but make them pay for the entire scholly out of that money and see how they(and family) like that And I agree I think ole Frank was the one hiding stuff.....another reason he needs to hang it up...the game has passed a good man by, time to let someone else take over......someone other than Bud please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1inStripes 932 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 Apparently this isnt a new thing at Tech and has been going on for a couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokiebird7 1,416 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 Apparently this isnt a new thing at Tech and has been going on for a couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,546 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 Apparently this isnt a new thing at Tech and has been going on for a couple of years. It's been going on with the bowl money they get. Which is legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 It's been going on with the bowl money they get. Which is legal. It's also terribly unethical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,546 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 It's also terribly unethical. We could argue that point about all sorts of things. My step brother worked for a company that took his Christmas bonus because he missed some work when he was sick. He was fined. And players are fined their bowl stipend if they screw up. It's life. old_school_blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 We could argue that point about all sorts of things. My step brother worked for a company that took his Christmas bonus because he missed some work when he was sick. He was fined. And players are fined their bowl stipend if they screw up. It's life. I, your coach who makes $1,500,000/year, have decided to fine you, player who has $100/week meal stipend, because the Miami offensive player shoved you and you retaliated. There is a perfectly valid, downright obvious reason that VT is getting neutered in the press over this. And we're not even talking about the fact that even by your own example, players would be treated like employees. Think about that one for a second before you respond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,546 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 I, your coach who makes $1,500,000/year, have decided to fine you, player who has $100/week meal stipend, because the Miami offensive player shoved you and you retaliated. There is a perfectly valid, downright obvious reason that VT is getting neutered in the press over this. And we're not even talking about the fact that even by your own example, players would be treated like employees. Think about that one for a second before you respond. I don't have any sympathy. Their college is PAID FOR. I'm in tens of thousands of dollars of debt for my tuition. Theirs is free. I have to work in a work study job to feed myself. They get money from the college. They made the choice to be an athlete and play football. If they screw up bad enough to warrant a fine, then that's on them. You won't see my doing something to lose my job. It's called responsibility. old_school_blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,546 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 I get that they are paid less than $100 a week. But so do I. They made the choice to be an athlete. I made the choice to major in music, a major that doesn't allow much time to have a high paying job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 I don't have any sympathy. Their college is PAID FOR. I'm in tens of thousands of dollars of debt for my tuition. Theirs is free. I have to work in a work study job to feed myself. They get money from the college. They made the choice to be an athlete and play football. If they screw up bad enough to warrant a fine, then that's on them. You won't see my doing something to lose my job. It's called responsibility. Just because you go to the school doesn't mean that you have to down a gallon of maroon-colored Kool-Aid. You're fining players who are largely on the lower socioeconomic rungs of society, players who largely wouldn't come remotely close to college without athletics. And the one doing the fining is literally THE highest paid assistant coach in the country. Make them run, sure. Taking food off their tables?! It's morally disgusting, and there's not enough server space to blast Foster for doing this, Beamer for condoning it, and Babcock for being so blind as to not see it on HD TVs around Tech's practice facilities. 1inStripes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,546 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Just because you go to the school doesn't mean that you have to down a gallon of maroon-colored Kool-Aid. You're fining players who are largely on the lower socioeconomic rungs of society, players who largely wouldn't come remotely close to college without athletics. And the one doing the fining is literally THE highest paid assistant coach in the country. Make them run, sure. Taking food off their tables?! It's morally disgusting, and there's not enough server space to blast Foster for doing this, Beamer for condoning it, and Babcock for being so blind as to not see it on HD TVs around Tech's practice facilities. I'm not drinking any kool-aid. If this happened at Tulane, I would say the same thing. These players are under a full ride. That includes the highest meal plan at a college that has THE BEST CAFETERIA IN THE NATION. Food isn't taken off their table. Extra spending money is if they screw up. Should it happen? I don't know. I don't get to decide that. But I don't feel one bit sorry for them. They are rock stars on this campus. They need to learn the responsibility that comes along with that. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,546 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 You're trying to paint me into someone who was ok with VT taking their stipend they get. I'm NOT ok with that. As I've already said. I'm just backing up the BOWL GAME allowance they get being taken if they screw up repeatedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokiebird7 1,416 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Good lord if this would have happened at any school in the country other than VT then UVAO wouldn't have said a word about it....let it rest And i doubt they are taking food off the table for these kids....dining halls are open for them...so don't give me that garbage Want to get paid for what you do then pay the price when you screw up plain as that Ryan4VT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokiebird7 1,416 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 That's what's wrong with people now they don't want to take responsibilty for anything and they pamper their kids so much it's pathetic and they grow up not knowing what responsibility is redtiger and Ryan4VT 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Good lord if this would have happened at any school in the country other than VT then UVAO wouldn't have said a word about it....let it rest And i doubt they are taking food off the table for these kids....dining halls are open for them...so don't give me that garbage Want to get paid for what you do then pay the price when you screw up plain as that If Huggy Bear had done something this cowardly at WVU, I'd have mentioned it, along with some jokes about booze money. It's a HUGE deal in CFB circles, not just in VA. Deadspin is just teeing off on VT about it. At last count, 3 different articles with 11 different cites. Even some of the jokers on TechSideline see the moral bankruptcy of this. And that's a group that doesn't frown when you mention U.S. v. Morrison... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Underrated part about the whole thing: (1) Missing class: $30-$90. (2) Personal foul: $100. Would actually be funny if this didn't pass for "accountability" for Chokie fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,546 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Underrated part about the whole thing: (1) Missing class: $30-$90. (2) Personal foul: $100. Would actually be funny if this didn't pass for "accountability" for Chokie fans. Once again, I'm NOT BACKING them taking their stipend. The bowl allowance is a different thing. And I bet if you went to 100 programs, 75 of them do it. You're hatred of VT amazes me sometimes....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 You're hatred of VT amazes me sometimes....... It's not hatred. It's more levity in mocking obvious hubris, and being mesmerized in how tight VT fans circle the wagons when said hubris is criticized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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