swva_havok_fan 1,259 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 http://www.vhsl.org/athletics.football.fb-2016-weekly-ratings-top-20-rankings And Grundy still doesn't have credit for their Week 2 win over River View, WV. I have Grundy's win over Riverview figured into my points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO 316 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 Is it still top 16 make the playoffs, with the top 8 hosting in the first round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,546 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 Is it still top 16 make the playoffs, with the top 8 hosting in the first round? Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO 316 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 So AHS sits in 6th with no 3A games remaining on their schedule. No disrespect to the other teams on our schedule, but Richlands and Marion remain our toughest games left. Even if we win out, it's not going to help us much. All that can happen is we move down if we lose one or both of those. SSDS. (Same Sh*t, Different Season). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starcityfootballfan 517 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 Cheer for Appo. Appo ends the season at Amherst County, which is a great possibility of a loss for them. Dan River's stiffest test afterward is Altavista, which is a good team but not one that should beat Dan River. Appo also has Altavista. My thoughts exactly!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,148 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 I have Grundy's win over Riverview figured into my points. You did and I did, but trying to understand the VHSL's omission. River View isn't even on the master schedule for Grundy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Mania 235 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 So AHS sits in 6th with no 3A games remaining on their schedule. No disrespect to the other teams on our schedule, but Richlands and Marion remain our toughest games left. Even if we win out, it's not going to help us much. All that can happen is we move down if we lose one or both of those. SSDS. (Same Sh*t, Different Season). AHS wouldn't have been more than a 5 seed at best if they had went undefeated. Just win and you may get to host 1 playoff game. Lose again and you are for sure going to road warriors for the playoffs. But I agree with what you said. Same VHSL Bull%$@t, Different year, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichlandsAlum 678 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 From a 3A pespective Abingdon is effectively Lee County. But it's not like the Falcons are entirely powerless here. Abingdon could make more of an effort to schedule the most proximal larger schools (Pulaski County and Carroll County) which would help address their access to ratings points. The travel involved wouldn't be much different than what they are choosing by moving to the Mountain District. And trust me, the sentiment cuts both ways. Nobody in the remainder of 3A West is particularly enthused about traveling to Abingdon for a playoff in any sport. Some effort to direct AHS into the 2A ranks would be beneficial for just about all parties involved. Deleted Account 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichlandsAlum 678 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 Is Amherst 4A? Is it believed that they "should" beat Appomattox? An Appomattox win over Amherst would be an upset of monumental proportion. Which isn't to say that it couldn't happen, but the Lancers are loaded and have reasonable expectations of going very deep in the 4A playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokies4Ever 23 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 I wouldn't say it would be a big upset. I mean Appomattox took Amherst to the wood shed last year. I know it's a new year but unless Amherst has developed a passing game this game will be really close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West12aaa 99 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 From a 3A pespective Abingdon is effectively Lee County. But it's not like the Falcons are entirely powerless here. Abingdon could make more of an effort to schedule the most proximal larger schools (Pulaski County and Carroll County) which would help address their access to ratings points. The travel involved wouldn't be much different than what they are choosing by moving to the Mountain District. And trust me, the sentiment cuts both ways. Nobody in the remainder of 3A West is particularly enthused about traveling to Abingdon for a playoff in any sport. Some effort to direct AHS into the 2A ranks would be beneficial for just about all parties involved. what is the lee county school you speat of never heard of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityofRaven 2,424 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 what is the lee county school you speat of never heard of it Are you a douche in real life too or is it just on the keyboard? greatwhitemp36, Deleted Account, Blue1915 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West12aaa 99 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 Are you a douche in real life too or is it just on the keyboard?I have an excellent talent for annoying incompetent idiots, my apologies you were affected by this. Edit: my sarcasm was at an all time high with the lee county comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityofRaven 2,424 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 I have an excellent talent for annoying incompetent idiots, my apologies you were affected by this. Edit: my sarcasm was at an all time high with the lee county comment. what is the lee county school you speat of never heard of it You should probably learn how to edit before you call people idiots... Ryan4VT and Deleted Account 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West12aaa 99 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 You should probably learn how to edit before you call people idiots...nah you are intelligent enough to understand, but you can continue with this conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO 316 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 From a 3A pespective Abingdon is effectively Lee County. But it's not like the Falcons are entirely powerless here. Abingdon could make more of an effort to schedule the most proximal larger schools (Pulaski County and Carroll County) which would help address their access to ratings points. The travel involved wouldn't be much different than what they are choosing by moving to the Mountain District. And trust me, the sentiment cuts both ways. Nobody in the remainder of 3A West is particularly enthused about traveling to Abingdon for a playoff in any sport. Some effort to direct AHS into the 2A ranks would be beneficial for just about all parties involved. This is going to sound like I'm being a jerk, but I'm not....serious question....how can Abingdon do anything about that? Is not all that decided at the state level? I'm all for AHS dropping to 2A. Don't attendance levels dictate that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 what is the lee county school you speat of never heard of it What you meant to say was: "What is this Lee County school of which you speak? I do not recognize it." Criticizing someone over a small factual error when you write like a high school dropout would be quite rich if you didn't do it week upon week, month upon month. trumpet1988, sixcat, Ryan4VT and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichlandsAlum 678 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 what is the lee county school you speat of never heard of it Actually, I was referring to the geographic entity/political sub unit of the Commonwealth. Not a particular school. From a standpoint of location, Lee County is the westernmost locality of Virginia and therefore significantly isolated from the rest of the Commonwealth. Within the geographic domain of Class 3A as administered currently by the VHSL, Abingdon occupies similar territory. My apologies. I did not realize that my attempted comparison was so obtuse. Chalk it up to incompetence on my part. :-) cityofRaven, Ryan4VT, BlueRazor and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichlandsAlum 678 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 This is going to sound like I'm being a jerk, but I'm not....serious question....how can Abingdon do anything about that? Is not all that decided at the state level? I'm all for AHS dropping to 2A. Don't attendance levels dictate that? A very reasonable question. And to be fair, it is _technically_ within the power of the Washington County School Board to address the attendance levels, but it is neither practical nor popular to do so. The lines for the attendance zones could be changed to redistribute students in such a manner that Abingdon's enrollment in "excess" of 2A levels could be sent to Battle, Holston, and/or Patrick Henry. But Abingdon's status as a growing municipality within a region that seems to be losing population overall would compromise that approach. The only real "solution" to the ratings points issue for AHS would seem to be loading up the buses and taking on schools in the New River Valley. But it is quite the conundrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West12aaa 99 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 What you meant to say was: "What is this Lee County school of which you speak? I do not recognize it." Criticizing someone over a small factual error when you write like a high school dropout would be quite rich if you didn't do it week upon week, month upon month. Hyperbole at its best. Thank you for the comical laugh, I enjoyed. Week upon week, month upon month you target my statements with a superman complex, I find it comical that I agitate you to no end. Thank you for bringing this forum to justice and away from the weapons of mass destruction. I would rather act a fool and be lazy with typing, instead of proofreading everything so I look important on a sports forum. They call that a type of syndrome but I have "little" time, "man." But I'm sure you'll research it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarhead24219 440 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 Wow , I had to pull out the old dictionary to understand those big words.In the Marine Corp they told me that most 4-letter cover any situation, ie lack of knowledge of any subject....example well F*$#, OR TRYING TO MAKE A POINT "LISTEN F*^ck**, OR THE OLD GO F*** YOURSELF.There is no need to use big words,lets just sit here and glow in each others thoughts and know that we all love our teams .Like I told my girlfriend ,I would have rather seen Richlands beat Union in over time than to watch Union steamroll Richlands if the game sucked......WELL ,F#@$ I LIED,I WOULD RATHER SEE UNION WIN ,BUT I MADE MY POINT, AND YOU SHOULD NEVER LISTEN TO A OLD MARINE BECAUSE I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "DUCK" AND F@#$" IS SPELLING AND ANYTHING I SAY IS MEANT TO MAKE YOU SMILE Rebel-harley1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO 316 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 A very reasonable question. And to be fair, it is _technically_ within the power of the Washington County School Board to address the attendance levels, but it is neither practical nor popular to do so. The lines for the attendance zones could be changed to redistribute students in such a manner that Abingdon's enrollment in "excess" of 2A levels could be sent to Battle, Holston, and/or Patrick Henry. But Abingdon's status as a growing municipality within a region that seems to be losing population overall would compromise that approach. The only real "solution" to the ratings points issue for AHS would seem to be loading up the buses and taking on schools in the New River Valley. But it is quite the conundrum. Yeah, even though AHS football has grown in popularity and game attendance, I seriously doubt the school board would propose a boundary change in order to facilitate a move to 2A for the AHS football program. I don't know this years high school attendee numbers but a couple short years ago it was just a smidge above the 2A numbers. Like within 25-50 kids. Of course the number of kids attending changes annually. But it seems that they hover right at the top,of 2A and the bottom of 3AM every year. I would guess AHS is just stuck where they are for the foreseeable future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamerball 566 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 Several TN schools that would give Abingdon 3A or greater points, probably about 14-15 schools with at least an hour and a half or less drive, if they could work them into the schedule. There's a couple from KY and I would guess from WV and NC too that are at least a couple of hours away. Would be the same for Lee, although for whatever reason they've been limiting themselves to just playing mostly VA teams now...don't understand why. redtiger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futbolking 766 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 A very reasonable question. And to be fair, it is _technically_ within the power of the Washington County School Board to address the attendance levels, but it is neither practical nor popular to do so. The lines for the attendance zones could be changed to redistribute students in such a manner that Abingdon's enrollment in "excess" of 2A levels could be sent to Battle, Holston, and/or Patrick Henry. But Abingdon's status as a growing municipality within a region that seems to be losing population overall would compromise that approach. The only real "solution" to the ratings points issue for AHS would seem to be loading up the buses and taking on schools in the New River Valley. But it is quite the conundrum. I think they can appeal to the state to drop classification due to travel concerns to play schools of similar size. Lately, pretty much all schools who have tried to do this have been denied if their enrollment was over. Abingdon's enrollment I think would be quite a bit over 2A (973),,,the cutoff is 750, so I don't think they would have a chance. starcityfootballfan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO 316 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 I think they can appeal to the state to drop classification due to travel concerns to play schools of similar size. Lately, pretty much all schools who have tried to do this have been denied if their enrollment was over. Abingdon's enrollment I think would be quite a bit over 2A, so I don't think they would have a chance. A couple of years ago AHS enrollment was, I wanna say, low 900's....like 915. I don't know the current numbers at all. I also don't know the enrollment values to constitute each classification. Abingdon did do a home and away with Volunteer recently but didn't renew it. I'd like to see them play Sullivan East, Central or Sullivan North. No thanks to Dobyns Bennett. I'd like to see them against Tn High just to see how we compare. I went to the DB vs Maryville game last weekend, and DB hung with them for awhile, but dang, Quarles is an incredible coach. Heard someone say a the game that in 2000 they lost 4 games. Since then, they've lost a total of 8 games. That's insane. Sorry, of topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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