Union_Fan 2,148 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 In all these examples I'm giving Appo best case scenario on their total points just to show that they are not a sure #1 or #2 given "likely" scenarios for Richlands and Graham. Also, it would appear that Dan River and Union are almost certain to remain #4 and #5. Union would need massive help to jump Dan River. 1.) Richlands 10-0 292 29.2 2.) Appomattox 10-0 290 29 3.) Graham 9-1 278 27.8 4.) Dan River 9-1 266 26.6 5.) Union 9-1 258 25.8 1.) Richlands 10-0 292 29.2 2.) Graham 9-1 278 27.8 3.) Appomattox 9-1 273 27.3 4.) Dan River 9-1 265 26.5 5.) Union 9-1 258 25.8 1.) Appomattox 10-0 290 29 2.) Graham 9-1 279 27.9 3.) Richlands 9-1 273 27.3 4.) Dan River 9-1 266 26.6 5.) Union 9-1 257 25.7 1.) Graham 9-1 279 27.9 2.) Appomattox 9-1 273 27.3 3.) Richlands 9-1 273 27.3 4.) Dan River 9-1 265 26.5 5.) Union 9-1 257 25.7 I'll post 6-16 scenarios tomorrow. Bigrhsfan, Deleted Account, NaderFan and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THS6805 124 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Interesting. Feel bad for 14 15 and 16 has travel to top 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaderFan 39 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 In all these examples I'm giving Appo best case scenario on their total points just to show that they are not a sure #1 or #2 given "likely" scenarios for Richlands and Graham. Also, it would appear that Dan River and Union are almost certain to remain #4 and #5. Union would need massive help to jump Dan River. 1.) Richlands 10-0 292 29.2 2.) Appomattox 10-0 290 29 3.) Graham 9-1 278 27.8 4.) Dan River 9-1 266 26.6 5.) Union 9-1 258 25.8 1.) Richlands 10-0 292 29.2 2.) Graham 9-1 278 27.8 3.) Appomattox 9-1 273 27.3 4.) Dan River 9-1 265 26.5 5.) Union 9-1 258 25.8 1.) Appomattox 10-0 290 29 2.) Graham 9-1 279 27.9 3.) Richlands 9-1 273 27.3 4.) Dan River 9-1 266 26.6 5.) Union 9-1 257 25.7 1.) Graham 9-1 279 27.9 2.) Appomattox 9-1 273 27.3 3.) Richlands 9-1 273 27.3 4.) Dan River 9-1 265 26.5 5.) Union 9-1 257 25.7 I'll post 6-16 scenarios tomorrow. Nice work. But was hoping for a graham vs appo matchup before richlands had to play either of them. Doesnt look possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Nice work. But was hoping for a graham vs appo matchup before richlands had to play either of them. Doesnt look possible. What? The likeliest scenario is Richlands going 10-0 with Appomattox going 9-1. That puts Appomattox traveling to Bluefield in the third round... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaderFan 39 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 What? The likeliest scenario is Richlands going 10-0 with Appomattox going 9-1. That puts Appomattox traveling to Bluefield in the third round... That would be quarterfinals. Wouldnt graham travel to richlands? Richlands was third last yr and they had to travel to appo in quarterfinals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaderFan 39 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 What? The likeliest scenario is Richlands going 10-0 with Appomattox going 9-1. That puts Appomattox traveling to Bluefield in the third round... Which scenario are you referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,546 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 That would be quarterfinals. Wouldnt graham travel to richlands? Richlands was third last yr and they had to travel to appo in quarterfinals. Richlands was 4th last year. 4 travels to 1 in the quarterfinals. 3 travels to 2. Deleted Account 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaderFan 39 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Well theres where i went wrong, thanks. Who was 3 last yr? Deleted Account 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornado99 345 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Glenvar. They lost a close one to #2 Union Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaderFan 39 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just hard to believe a 10-0 richlands would outpoint a 10-0 appo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,546 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just hard to believe a 10-0 richlands would outpoint a 10-0 appo I never would have thought it, but it makes sense. While they will outpoint us in the base points, the rider points will be the difference here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suit Up 82 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I could be wrong in calculations. But I'm seeing Appomattox possibly getting 296-298 in best case scenario. And Richlands getting to 292 only if bluefield wins out and central beats lee( unlikely in my opinion on bluefield beating James Monroe) again I may be wrong that's just what I came up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mw0729 18 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Someone tell me why Lee high gets two bonus points for playing Thomas Walker, Eastside and Burton when they are not in Lee's district? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,546 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Someone tell me why Lee high gets two bonus points for playing Thomas Walker, Eastside and Burton when they are not in Lee's district? The VHSL seems to be awarding two bonus points per classification if you play a lower team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mw0729 18 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I thought that only applied if they were in the same district. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWVAgridiron 1,469 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I thought that only applied if they were in the same district. That's how's it use to be until now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mw0729 18 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 So there is no penalty for a 2a team to play a 1a team? They get 18 points for winning no matter what? Makes no sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,546 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 So there is no penalty for a 2a team to play a 1a team? They get 18 points for winning no matter what? Makes no sense to me. If a 4A team plays a 2A team, that 4A team gets 4 bonus points because if it. No idea why they changed it, but that's how it's gonna work. You don't really get much that many extra points for playing up anyways. It's about the strength of your opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ba961 24 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Also if you look at the points for each division it give the bigger school a reason to play the smaller school the bonus points for playing the smaller school adds up to what they would have received for playing a school in their division. If they did not do this your small schools would never be able to fill a 10 game schedule in some locations without having to travel hrs for a game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,148 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I could be wrong in calculations. But I'm seeing Appomattox possibly getting 296-298 in best case scenario. And Richlands getting to 292 only if bluefield wins out and central beats lee( unlikely in my opinion on bluefield beating James Monroe) again I may be wrong that's just what I came up with. I did omit a possible Chatham over Bluestone victory which would give Appo 292. I still don't think Appo will reach 292 or 290. If Bluefield beats James Monroe, Central beats Lee and Va High beats Marion, I have Richlands at 298. I think that is their max points. This is what I have for Appo. Winner is team on the left. Doesn't matter if Appo goes 10-0, but if they lose to Amherst, having both Heritage and Rustburg defeating Amherst would give a 9-1 Appo 2 additional points. Out of district games Buckingham/Randolph Henry - 2 Buckingham/Prince Edward - 2 Rustburg/Ahmherst - 2 Rustburg/EC Glass - 2 Heritage/Amherst - 2 Heritage/EC Glass - 2 Heritage/Liberty(Bedford) - 2 District Games William Campbell/Altavista - 2 William Campbell/Nelson Co - 2 William Campbell/Chatham - 2 Gretna/Dan River - 2 Gretna/Altavista - 2 Gretna/Nelson - 2 Dan River/Altavista - 2 Chatham/Bluestone - 2 Opponents Left Appo/Nelson Co -18 + 0 Appo/Chatham - 18 + 4(bonus pts based on current wins) Appo/Amherst - 22 + 12(bonus pts based on current wins) Appo's current 188 pts + their remaing games + remaining rider points gives them 292 Deleted Account 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suit Up 82 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I re ran the numbers and as expected I made a mistake. I wasn't giving Richlands any rider points for unions probable last 3 wins. That's what happens when you crunch numbers late at night after only sleeping 4 hours the night before. Ryan4VT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,148 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Glenvar is pretty set at #6 unless Marion upsets Abingdon. 6.) Glenvar 8-2 235 23.5 7.) Martinsville 7-3 226 22.6 8.) Grundy 8-2 226 22.6 9.) Giles 7-3 225 22.5 10.) Marion 7-3 217 21.7 11.) Lee 7-3 204 20.4 12.) Gate City 5-5 195 19.5 13.) Floyd Co 6-4 189 18.9 14.) Virginia High 4-6 185 18.5 15.) Tazewell 3-7 167 16.7 16.) John Battle 4-6 165 16.5 If Marion upsets Abingdon. 6.) Glenvar 8-2 235 23.5 7.) Marion 8-2 235 23.5 8.) Martinsville 7-3 226 22.6 9.) Grundy 8-2 226 22.6 10.) Giles 7-3 225 22.5 If Central beats Lee 11.) Gate City 5-5 195 19.5 12.) Lee 6-4 190 19 13.) Floyd Co 6-4 189 18.9 14.) Virginia High 4-6 183 18.3 15.) Central 4-6 172 17.2 16.) Tazewell 3-7 167 16.7 17.) John Battle 4-6 166 16.6 If Lee loses their final 3 games 11.) Gate City 5-5 195 19.5 12.) Floyd Co 6-4 189 18.9 13.) Virginia High 4-6 183 18.3 14.) John Battle 5-5 182 18.2 15.) Lee 5-5 175 17.5 16.) Central-Wise 4-6 171 17.1 As you can tell, many of these teams will be so close in points that it will only take 1 game to change seeding for several. Also, the results of the games for teams seeded 10-17 could have a major impact on a 10-0 Richlands' ability to outpoint a 10-0 Appo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaderFan 39 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I did omit a possible Chatham over Bluestone victory which would give Appo 292. I still don't think Appo will reach 292 or 290. If Bluefield beats James Monroe, Central beats Lee and Va High beats Marion, I have Richlands at 298. I think that is their max points. This is what I have for Appo. Winner is team on the left. Doesn't matter if Appo goes 10-0, but if they lose to Amherst, having both Heritage and Rustburg defeating Amherst would give a 9-1 Appo 2 additional points. Out of district games Buckingham/Randolph Henry - 2 Buckingham/Prince Edward - 2 Rustburg/Ahmherst - 2 Rustburg/EC Glass - 2 Heritage/Amherst - 2 Heritage/EC Glass - 2 Heritage/Liberty(Bedford) - 2 District Games William Campbell/Altavista - 2 William Campbell/Nelson Co - 2 William Campbell/Chatham - 2 Gretna/Dan River - 2 Gretna/Altavista - 2 Gretna/Nelson - 2 Dan River/Altavista - 2 Chatham/Bluestone - 2 Opponents Left Appo/Nelson Co -18 + 0 Appo/Chatham - 18 + 4(bonus pts based on current wins) Appo/Amherst - 22 + 12(bonus pts based on current wins) Appo's current 188 pts + their remaing games + remaining rider points gives them 292 I think prince edward beats buckingham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,148 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I think prince edward beats buckingham. I do too. As bad as they're playing Randolph Henry might beat them. I don't think Rustburg and Heritage will beat Glass, and I think Chatham loses to Bluestone. That just shows what points Appo "can" get. I think they will end up somewhere around 284-286. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaderFan 39 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I do too. As bad as they're playing Randolph Henry might beat them. I don't think Rustburg and Heritage will beat Glass, and I think Chatham loses to Bluestone. That just shows what points Appo "can" get. I think they will end up somewhere around 284-286. Thought the same thing with randolph henry. But was wrong in thinking appo played randolph henry. Could go either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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