swva_havok_fan 1,259 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 Is the talk next year of doing the playoffs by 8 teams per region still ongoing, has that been confirmed or what, kind of like how 3A East and some of the other classifications do it now? If so, I was looking at 1A West and 2A West and seeing how things would look next year with this year's teams, if they system being talked about goes into effect. The former 2A West would look something like this: Region C, Division 2 Playoffs if system existed in 2016 1 Appomattox vs. 8 Radford 2 Dan River vs. 7 Floyd County 3 Martinsville vs. 6 Giles 4 Glenvar vs. 5 Fort Chiswell Out of the Playoffs 9 James River 10 Gretna 11 Chatham 12 Buckingham County 13 Nelson County Region D, Division 2 Playoffs if system existed in 2016 1 Richlands vs. 8 Lebanon 2 Graham vs. 7 John Battle 3 Union vs. 6 Gate City 4 Marion vs. 5 Lee High Out of the Playoffs 9 Wise Central 10 Virginia High 11 Tazewell 12 Grayson County 13 Ridgeview The former 1A West would look something like this: Region C, Division 1 Playoffs if system existed in 2016 1 George Wythe vs. 8 Auburn 2 Galax vs. 7 Bland County 3 Parry McCluer vs. 6 Rural Retreat 4 Narrows vs. 5 Covington Out of the Playoffs 9 Bath County 10 Eastern Montgomery 11 Craig County Region D, Division 1 Playoffs if system existed in 2016 1 Hurley vs. 8 Twin Springs 2 Grundy vs. 7 Castlewood 3 Chilhowie vs. 6 Twin Valley 4 Patrick Henry vs. 5 J. I. Burton Out of the Playoffs 9 Honaker 10 Thomas Walker 11 Eastside 12 Northwood 13 Holston 14 Rye Cove Note: Grundy drops to Division 1 next year while Fort Chiswell and Radford move to Division 2. So, if this system becomes a thing in 2017, does everyone like this format better or the format we have now? Positives: Less travel time guaranteed throughout the first three rounds of the playoffs, until the semifinals. Negatives: Almost a certainty you will play someone you've already played in the regular season. Using Union and Richlands as the example, both teams have four teams in their regional bracket they played in 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,546 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 I like it. Although you have some rematches, you also get a fight for your region every year. Richlands, Union, Graham, and GC all in the same region?!?!? The playoff matchups EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR. will be incredible just to get to the state semis. Deleted Account 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtiger 1,739 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 I like having Regional Champions to represent at the state level. I'm ok with the rematches big ugly vol and Ryan4VT 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trumpet1988 289 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 Rematches were a common thing under the Regional format. Powell Valley played at least one rematch during regional play back in the day. I can think of a season, maybe 2 or 3 at the very least when both regional games in the old format were rematches. 1990 when PV played and beat Coeburn and Clintwood in regionals. 1997 were the same rematches. 2001, Powell Valley won the rematch against JJ Kelly even after defeating them regular season. Then they were defeated by Gate City in the rematch a week later after defeating them in regular season. The majority of the time Powell Valley had at least one rematch. It adds to the atmosphere, especially in a rivalry. The chance that Union could rematch against Gate City or Richlands? Even a shot against Graham? That's huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leatherhead Larry 530 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 I miss the old 4 Region set up. It used to mean something to actually win ballgames. Rematches is what makes rivalry games. Team A beating Team B in the regular season but Team B comes back with a chip on the shoulder in the playoffs to get even with Team A. futbolking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose111874 967 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 Would Richland's and graham be region d seems like when Powell valley played Lebanon they were region c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,546 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/alignment-final-24-region-alignment-plan1.pdf redtiger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose111874 967 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 Thanks Ryan hadn't seen that but was I right about Lebanon being region C can't remember for sure. Ryan4VT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,546 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 Thanks Ryan hadn't seen that but was I right about Lebanon being region C can't remember for sure. I can't remember, honestly. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futbolking 766 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 Region D looks stout next season, especially at the top. (Like the Region IV of old days).... I like it. Gate City and Graham used to battle for the Region IV title on a consistent basis.... Having Richlands and Union in the mix and the Region D playoffs will have some epic matchups... if Graham can maintain a high level of play. Graham needs to get the middle school team on board. I believe that Graham moved Middle School soccer to fall?? Can anybody verify that??... That may be one reason for low numbers.. I know that there are several soccer players that also play football at GMS. I heard that they were going to do that last year...and I thought I saw several of them at a football game with their jerseys on... Or am I way off base... When those kids get to high school, soccer would be in the spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swva_havok_fan 1,259 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 Thanks Ryan hadn't seen that but was I right about Lebanon being region C can't remember for sure. Lebanon was Region C in the 90's, yes, as Haysi played Lebanon in the semis in 1992 I believe. But under this new format, they will be Region D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup_rbeast 296 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 Thanks Ryan hadn't seen that but was I right about Lebanon being region C can't remember for sure.When Lebanon first dropped into Division 2, they were in Region C...and they remained there for quite a while afterward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtiger 1,739 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 I believe Lebanon remained in Region C after their mid 90s move back up to AA until the Clinch Mountain District was formed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason 299 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 I like the matchup we have now better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC_Quincy 582 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 I like the way it used to be 10 to 1. Dan River, Buckingham, etc shouldn't be considered in our region. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1BLUESFAN 169 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 Seem like appo is a lil far away also to be in our region..well the ride back last year seemed like it was 3 states away..lol Bigrhsfan and GC_Quincy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCITYHOO 110 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 Radford @ Appo, now that would be a serious butt whoopin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityofRaven 2,424 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 Lebanon was a part of Region C because they were in the Hogoheegee for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarhead24219 440 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 There are to many teams in the playoff, granted a 5&5 GATE CITY deserves to be there but the others I am not sure about.The VHSL thought they would rake in the money with the extra games but the travel cost has offset any extra revenue that was gained. In the end we all want the best football played and if it stays the top 8 from each region that's fine.Remember Jonesville was 5-5 at the end of the year and they won out and took the state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swva_havok_fan 1,259 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 I can't remember who it was, but back when I high school in the 90's, a team out east went winless during the regular season in basketball, but won two district tournament games to advance to the regionals, then won two games in the regionals and boom, they were in the state tournament. Haysi was in the tournament that yeas as well and I remember seeing it in the program, but just can't remember who it was. There are to many teams in the playoff, granted a 5&5 GATE CITY deserves to be there but the others I am not sure about.The VHSL thought they would rake in the money with the extra games but the travel cost has offset any extra revenue that was gained. In the end we all want the best football played and if it stays the top 8 from each region that's fine.Remember Jonesville was 5-5 at the end of the year and they won out and took the state. jarhead24219 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappy 72 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 Lebanon was a part of Region C because they were in the Hogoheegee for years. Correct. For those of us who played in the HOGO the regional tournaments were weird. We were all in Region C but felt like we should have been Region D, 90% (the other 10% GW & RR played Reg. C) of or our non district games were against Region D. Then if you made the playoffs or regional tournament you rarely had a rematch unless you re-matched with someone in the district. cityofRaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup_rbeast 296 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 There are to many teams in the playoff, granted a 5&5 GATE CITY deserves to be there but the others I am not sure about.The VHSL thought they would rake in the money with the extra games but the travel cost has offset any extra revenue that was gained. In the end we all want the best football played and if it stays the top 8 from each region that's fine.Remember Jonesville was 5-5 at the end of the year and they won out and took the state.Thing is, Jonesville was a 4 seed because in Region D only 4 Division 1 teams and 4 Division 2 teams made the playoffs back then. I'd be content with 4 from each region at each level again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swva_havok_fan 1,259 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 Thing is, Jonesville was a 4 seed because in Region D only 4 Division 1 teams and 4 Division 2 teams made the playoffs back then. I'd be content with 4 from each region at each level again. I would go with 6 from each region, with the top two seeds getting the opening week bye. 1A East and 4A West sort of do this already now, with only 12 teams making it from those two regions, instead of the customary 16, and the top 4 seeds getting the opening round bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup_rbeast 296 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 I would go with 6 from each region, with the top two seeds getting the opening week bye. 1A East and 4A West sort of do this already now, with only 12 teams making it from those two regions, instead of the customary 16, and the top 4 seeds getting the opening round bye.I'd prefer just 4....make every game in the regular season a huge deal again. Before the invention of Divs 1&2, there was a time in Class A when only district champs made the playoffs. Once they came up with divisions, Region D Class A went from 3 playoff teams to 8....now its the equilivent of 16 per region if you take into account that the majority of A and AA West were Single A until the realignment. I just think the playoffs are way too watered down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swva_havok_fan 1,259 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 True... but a 9-1 Haysi team had to sit at the house one year because of that, while a 4-6 team made it. Jason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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