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Can Mac get past 2770?

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Saw that he scored his 1000th point in the Arby’s last year and just got his 2000th in it tonight. Is it reasonable to think he will break the vhsl scoring record this year. Furthermore, breaking the season scoring mark set by Allen Iverson of 948?  

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He has 13 regular season games left. I assume that there will be a district tournament (3 games)? and a Region(3-4 games) tournament, quaterfinal, semi final, and state final... 

Rough math says he has a max of 23 games left. He needs 34 points a game to achieve this. Of course, a lot of variables go into this. It is possible but doubtful I think. 

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49 minutes ago, Dick_Vitale said:

He has 13 regular season games left. I assume that there will be a district tournament (3 games)? and a Region(3-4 games) tournament, quaterfinal, semi final, and state final... 

Rough math says he has a max of 23 games left. He needs 34 points a game to achieve this. Of course, a lot of variables go into this. It is possible but doubtful I think. 

That’s what I was curious about, the number of games left. It’ll be a show for sure. Thanks. And ur right @Unionguy_2017, can’t count him out. 

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I’ve been waiting on this thread. If GC can get a good run at the title and Mac stays hot, he could get close, only time will tell. But I know Mac, the rest of the team, and Coach Vermillion are only worried about one thing. And that’s winning the state championship. But any records broke along the way are a nice feather in the cap. 

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2 hours ago, EH31 said:

how many points does he have so far this year?

Literally, in the opening post, it says "just got his 2000th in it tonight." Which was the last Arby's game. So he has a handful over 2000.

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9 minutes ago, Dick_Vitale said:

Literally, in the opening post, it says "just got his 2000th in it tonight." Which was the last Arby's game. So he has a handful over 2000.

Yeah, I can read. I meant this year as in this season. 

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4 minutes ago, EH31 said:

Yeah, I can read. I meant this year as in this season. 

 

This is the scoring I got from the GC twitter feed on each game thus far...

 

Lee High - 47
Central-Wise - 37
Daniel Boone - 35
Knoxville Christian - 29
North Mecklenburg - 26
TN High - 40
Fern Creek - 44
Lakota East - 28

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22 minutes ago, Beamerball said:

 

This is the scoring I got from the GC twitter feed on each game thus far...

 

Lee High - 47
Central-Wise - 37
Daniel Boone - 35
Knoxville Christian - 29
North Mecklenburg - 26
TN High - 40
Fern Creek - 44
Lakota East - 28

286 through 8 games.  That’s 35.75 per game.  Extrapolating that through 23 possible remaining games, he would score 822 in his remaining games to total 1108, which would easily break Iverson’s mark.  I think such a scoring average is plausible, even likely, considering basketball in SWVA isn’t very good and that McClung has already played the “meat” of his regular season schedule.  He would need to average about 31 PPG to break Iverson’s mark. 

 

As for career totals, he has at least 2000.  822 more would put him at least at 2882.  He has to move at a slightly brisker pace in relation to the season mark, as his “margin for error” is about 100 points.  He needs about 32 PPG to break that.

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I like to look at what he did against the local teams and compare that to the next 13 games. He "Should/Could" average 40 points a game... 

Give him some cushion when the postseason begins in case he has an off night by scoring 25 lol. 

Factors that I think that play in are how far GC goes this year (obviously) and how much He/Vermillion pump the breaks against the local teams. Judging by what he did against Lee/Wise/TN High, I doubt there will be much pumping of the breaks though. 

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Personally, I'd love to see him bring it back to Scott County.  

I was at the game when Stacy Ervin broke Odell Hodge's record at Twin Springs in '97.

Of course, we'll never know what the record might have been if Allen Iverson had played his senior season.

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14 hours ago, 1inStripes said:

Or if there had been a 3 point line for someone like Steve Marsee.

Or Coeburn's David Mitchell. I remember an LPD tournament game where Mitchell went for 57 of Coeburn's 67 points in a 107-67 loss to PV. Mitchell would have had a lot more if there had been a 3 point line.

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15 hours ago, JDHoss said:

Or Coeburn's David Mitchell. I remember an LPD tournament game where Mitchell went for 57 of Coeburn's 67 points in a 107-67 loss to PV. Mitchell would have had a lot more if there had been a 3 point line.

 

PV scored 107 points in a game without the three point line?!?!?  Was this the state title team in the 70s?

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4 hours ago, BigWinners said:

 

PV scored 107 points in a game without the three point line?!?!?  Was this the state title team in the 70s?

No, but it was a really good team. I think Gate City was still in the LPD at the time, so that was probably in 1969.  Man...that was a long time ago.....PV had some really good teams under Coach Paye. Pressed and trapped all over the floor, and liked to get out on the break.

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On 12/31/2017 at 1:14 PM, Beamerball said:

 

This is the scoring I got from the GC twitter feed on each game thus far...

 

Lee High - 47
Central-Wise - 37
Daniel Boone - 35
Knoxville Christian - 29
North Mecklenburg - 26
TN High - 40
Fern Creek - 44
Lakota East - 28

Since eclipsing 2,000 late in 4th Q against Lakota East 

Union-31

John Battle-33

Floyd Co-33

Abingdon-47

 

Season Points: 430 (through) 12 games, 35.83 ppg 

Career Points:~ 2,144 plus

 

1/12 @ Ridgeview
1/19 @ Lee High
1/23 @ Central-Wise
1/26 Union
1/27 Cleveland (TN)
1/30 @ John Battle
2/2 @ Abingdon
2/3 Pulaski County (Adam Ward Classic @ Salem Civic Center) 
2/6 Ridgeview
2/7 Daniel Boone (TN)

 

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16 hours ago, Liam McPoyle said:

Since eclipsing 2,000 late in 4th Q against Lakota East 

Union-31

John Battle-33

Floyd Co-33

Abingdon-47

 

Season Points: 430 (through) 12 games, 35.83 ppg 

Career Points:~ 2,144 plus

 

1/12 @ Ridgeview
1/19 @ Lee High
1/23 @ Central-Wise
1/26 Union
1/27 Cleveland (TN)
1/30 @ John Battle
2/2 @ Abingdon
2/3 Pulaski County (Adam Ward Classic @ Salem Civic Center) 
2/6 Ridgeview
2/7 Daniel Boone (TN)

 

So after the regular season how many games "could" they play? There's a district tournament, region tournament, and state tournament, right? So at least 10 more? 

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7 minutes ago, EH31 said:

So after the regular season how many games "could" they play? There's a district tournament, region tournament, and state tournament, right? So at least 10 more? 

District tournament would be 2 games since they'll for sure get the first round bye.

Region would be 3 games if they get to the finals.

State would be 3 games if they get to the finals.  So a max of 8 postseason games.

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On 1/9/2018 at 10:54 PM, Liam McPoyle said:

Since eclipsing 2,000 late in 4th Q against Lakota East 

Union-31

John Battle-33

Floyd Co-33

Abingdon-47

 

Season Points: 430 (through) 12 games, 35.83 ppg 

Career Points:~ 2,144 plus

 

1/12 @ Ridgeview
1/19 @ Lee High
1/23 @ Central-Wise
1/26 Union
1/27 Cleveland (TN)
1/30 @ John Battle
2/2 @ Abingdon
2/3 Pulaski County (Adam Ward Classic @ Salem Civic Center) 
2/6 Ridgeview
2/7 Daniel Boone (TN)

 

He’s on pace...

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Mac McClung Points

Lee High - 47
Central-Wise - 37
Daniel Boone - 35
Knoxville Christian - 29
North Mecklenburg - 26
TN High - 40
Fern Creek - 44
Lakota East - 28

(Per @Beamerball via GC Twitter feed)

Since eclipsing 2,000 late in 4th Q against Lakota East 

Union-31

John Battle-33

Floyd Co-33

Abingdon-47

Ridgeview-44

Lee High-42

Season Points through 14 Games: 516 (36.86 ppg)

Approximate career total: 2230

1/23 @ Central-Wise
1/26 Union
1/27 Cleveland (TN)
1/30 @ John Battle
2/2 @ Abingdon
2/3 Pulaski County (Adam Ward Classic @ Salem Civic Center) 
2/6 Ridgeview
2/7 Daniel Boone (TN)

Plus a maximum of 8 playoff games (per @swva_havok_fan)

With a best case scenario of GC playing 16 games, I believe McClung would need 33.82 ppg..

At 15 games...36.07 ppg

At 14 games...38.65 ppg

At 13 games...41.62 ppg

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On 1/20/2018 at 12:12 AM, Beamerball said:

Worth mentioning that Tim Hayes thought McClung had 31 again Knox Christian, reports and the books both had 31.

https://twitter.com/tcookjcpress/status/953078859808862209

 

Thanks for the link info, @Beamerball.

 

via @tcookjcpress  Tanner Cook, Johnson City Press

MAC MCCLUNG’S TORRID PACE
Mac McClung season point totals (excluding imminent postseason)

2/7: v Daniel Boone (TN) 
2/6: v Ridgeview
2/3: v Pulaski 
2/2: v Abingdon
1/30: v Battle
1/27: v Cleveland (TN)
1/26: v Union
1/23: v Wise Central 35 (W 99-70)
1/19: v Lee 42 (W, 111-67)
1/13: v Ridgeview 44 (W, 98-60)
1/10: v Abingdon 47 (W, 103-59)
1/6: v Floyd 33 (W, 75-54)
1/5: v Battle 33 (W, 86-40)
1/3: v Union 31 (W, 70-56)
*12/30: v Lakota East (OH) 28 (W, 66-54) (2,000 career points at end of game)
*12/29: v Fern Creek (KY) 44 (W, 70-68)
*12/28: v Tennessee High (TN) 40 (W, 79-43)
*12/27: v North Mecklenburg (NC) 26 (L, 80-64)
12/22: v Knoxville Christian (TN) 31 (W, 74-46)
12/19: v Daniel Boone (TN) 35 (W, 75-66)
12/15: v Wise Central 37 (W, 81-42)
12/12: v Lee 47 (W, 96-43)


Thru 1/23 totals: 553 points; 36.87 ppg; 2,267 total points
Gate City record: 14-1 (Max number of games: 31)
*- Arby’s Classic (Bristol, TN)

VHSL Records
- Caleb Tanner, Floyd (all-time scorer; 2,770 career points)
- 1976-77: Joe Stiltner, Bland (season scoring average; 41.67 ppg)
- 1992-93: Allen Iverson, Bethel (season scoring points; 948 points)

All Schools Records- Dan Vander Woude, Seton School (all-time scorer; 3,329 career points)
- 1987-88: Dan Vander Woude, Seton School (season scoring points: 1,265 points)

SCENARIOS

- To break the VHSL career scoring record, he needs 504 more points this season with a possibility of 16 more games remaining, if GC makes it to the Class 2A title game and does not lose. He would need an average of 31.5 ppg to break the record. 

- To break the VHSL single season record for total points, he needs 396 more points this season with a possibility of 16 more games, if GC makes it to the Class 2A title game and does not lose. He would need an average of 24.75 ppg to break the record. 

- To break the All Schools single season record for total points, he needs 713 more points this season with a possibility of 16 more games, if GC makes it to the Class 2A title game and does not lose. He would need an average of 44.56 ppg to break the record. 
 

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