Bulldogs52 482 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 Per @vhslreference 2018 Preseason VIRGINIA Football Rankings 276 AREA CODE 1 Union 2 Graham 3 Magna Vista 4 Richlands 5 Abingdon 6 Virginia 7 Marion 8 Martinsville 9 Galax 10 Wythe 11 Grayson 12 Lee 13 Ridgeview 14 John Battle 15 Fort Chiswell 16 Wise 17 Gate City 18 Chilhowie 19 Burton 20 Tazewell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogs52 482 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 Thought Chilhowie has the whole team returning for this season! Tazewell awful low with what that they have returning and the ones that have moved up! Gridiron60 and GMan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,919 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 Just a few quick observations. Chilhowie is criminally low on that list!!!!!!!!! Union, Abingdon, Marion and Virginia may be slightly over-valued. Ridgeview, Grayson and Fort Chiswell may be slightly under-valued. Gridiron60 and swva_havok_fan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 There are some puzzling placements on this list, to be kind. Ridgeview at #13? Chilhowie at #18?! swva_havok_fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unchained 587 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Union lost what 23 seniors? There's talent coming up but the Bears are going to experience some growing pains. #1 is way too high for them right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat Dad 439 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 This list is absurd. If you read more of their lists, you will see contradictions everywhere. For example, they have VHS ranked ahead of Marion on this list, but in their "Wins Prediction" list, they have Marion winning more games. The real question is; "When will we see the only list that matters?".....the SWVASports.com Preseason Top 10 List 😁 MusicMakesMeHigh, Deleted Account, redtiger and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Before everyone gets too worked up, just remember that this list is from vhslreference. It's not a prediction of the upcoming season based on current players, coaches, etc... It's a prediction of finishes using a mathematical algorithm based on stats from the past "x" number of years. It doesn't predict based on returning or lost players. Only past W/L records and his website rating. Unchained, Gridiron60, Ryan4VT and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 You do realize this list comes from someone who has never watched a game in SWVA and bases it all on what his computer said about last season, right??? Bearcat Dad, Bigrhsfan and starcityfootballfan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat Dad 439 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 17 minutes ago, GMan said: You do realize this list comes from someone who has never watched a game in SWVA and bases it all on what his computer said about last season, right??? I guess that speaks volumes about his computer, then. 😂 EDIT: His lists are full of laughable entries, depending on said list. I'm just curious as to what algorithm on God's green Earth, formulates that a team that appeared in a State Championship game one year, and returns nearly every starter from that team the next year, deserves to be ranked where Chilhowie is ranked? I really don't have a dog in that race, but inquiring minds want to know😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH31 2,518 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 He does it for the retweets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 44 minutes ago, Bearcat Dad said: I guess that speaks volumes about his computer, then. 😂 EDIT: His lists are full of laughable entries, depending on said list. I'm just curious as to what algorithm on God's green Earth, formulates that a team that appeared in a State Championship game one year, and returns nearly every starter from that team the next year, deserves to be ranked where Chilhowie is ranked? I really don't have a dog in that race, but inquiring minds want to know😁 I'm not sure how many years he uses for future predictions, but take this into consideration. Chilhowie's record for 2014 -17 was 1-9, 2-8, 9-3, and 11-4. That averages out to 6-6 (rounded). Not a record of a state champion or even a runner-up. Union's record for 2014-17 was 9-3, 13-1, 11-2, 13-1. That averages out to 12-2. That's a semi-final appearance. 1 game away from a state appearance. Both teams couldn't be more opposite in what that have coming back next year with Union essentially losing an entire football team (20) and Chilhowie basically losing nothing. However, his site doesn't take a single "real" factor into account only what's on paper, ie statistics. Statistically speaking, Chilhowie will finish 5-5 and go 1-1 in the playoffs, Union will finish 9-1 and go 3-1 in the playoffs. Logically speaking, Chilhowie will NOT finish 5-5, and I truly have no clue what Union will do. I would love 9-1 though! Bearcat Dad and sixcat 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowTheWestWasWon2017 24 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Ok. Time to eat crow. Gate City and the Mac dude was for real. They beat us Radford dudes fair and square. My boys are working everyday to avenge that game for next year but the football.team? We are not the greatest but from what I hear from people near Bristol a poll position at 17 may be a little high for the Devils here in football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridiron60 2,555 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Richlands stomped Hurley in 7 on 7 at Ernie Hicks, shouldn't that push them up further up the list? Bulldogs52 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat Dad 439 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 4 hours ago, Union_Fan said: I'm not sure how many years he uses for future predictions, but take this into consideration. Chilhowie's record for 2014 -17 was 1-9, 2-8, 9-3, and 11-4. That averages out to 6-6 (rounded). Not a record of a state champion or even a runner-up. Union's record for 2014-17 was 9-3, 13-1, 11-2, 13-1. That averages out to 12-2. That's a semi-final appearance. 1 game away from a state appearance. Both teams couldn't be more opposite in what that have coming back next year with Union essentially losing an entire football team (20) and Chilhowie basically losing nothing. However, his site doesn't take a single "real" factor into account only what's on paper, ie statistics. Statistically speaking, Chilhowie will finish 5-5 and go 1-1 in the playoffs, Union will finish 9-1 and go 3-1 in the playoffs. Logically speaking, Chilhowie will NOT finish 5-5, and I truly have no clue what Union will do. I would love 9-1 though! To me, that makes sense in how he comes up with his numbers in that particular comparison. I can't say for sure, and I may be way off, but I'm not sure it would work if you compare VHS at #6 and Gate City at #17. I know GC had a terrible year last season, but I believe the win total for VHS in the last 4 years is; 7, 3, 6, and 2. If my math is correct, that makes them 18-25 overall. Definitely not worthy of a #6 ranking, if he's not using a "real" factor. I do think you're close, but there must be some other factor that I can't figure out. I guess my next question would be; Why does he, or anyone, do it that way? Being involved in football and baseball at VHS for the better part of 30 years, as a fan, a player, and now as a dad, I fully understand what it's like to be a part of 2 programs at different points of the spectrum, in terms of success. To me, this is actually a pretty cool way to make a case for a program, if we're talking about, say....The Best Program of All-time, or something along those lines. I honestly don't fault the guy for trying something in a modern way, but without just a hint of knowledge, it's nearly impossible to make somewhat accurate predictions, from season to season, especially for programs like Chilhowie and VHS, who are historically mediocre, but are currently in the midst of being successful, or traditional powerhouses like Gate City, who are just mired in a tough stretch. I can easily admit that I know Jack Squat about the upcoming season of 4 of the teams on this list; Magna Vista, Galax, George Wythe, and Martinsville. They may be the top 4 teams for all i know, but i doubt it. They could be the bottom 4 teams, but i doubt that too. What I can say, is that I know a little about the other 16 teams, and I would bet the farm that this list is way off. On a side note, Union is Union. You guys will be at or near the top, come November. At least that's what my computer tells me 🍻 Union_Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam McPoyle 1,863 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 I use and enjoy VHSL Reference as a historical database; however, the preseason rankings section lacks the valid data needed to calculate results that are even remotely accurate. Their in-season rankings are only marginally better. Again, I like many aspects of the site but this part needs to be retooled or scrapped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,554 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 I know the son of he guy who runs it. Actually one of my best friends from college. It’s all algorithm based for the press on stuff. Take it with a grain of salt. The historicla stuff on there, though, is a big tool and is well done. Also. Fun fact. The guy who runs the website retired to Florida years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamerball 566 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 Seems like we have this same discussion ever year. Jason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,554 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 We do lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog 82 11 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 Shouldn't Giles be in the top 20 somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,554 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 21 minutes ago, Bulldog 82 said: Shouldn't Giles be in the top 20 somewhere? They are a 540 School. Those are the rankings for teams in the 276 code. Which even furthers the WTF question of Magna Vista. But that’s why no Giles. Deleted Account 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 22 minutes ago, Bulldog 82 said: Shouldn't Giles be in the top 20 somewhere? On 7/10/2018 at 3:30 PM, Bulldogs52 said: Per @vhslreference 2018 Preseason VIRGINIA Football Rankings 276 AREA CODE Giles is the westernmost edge of 540. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog 82 11 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Makes sense now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityofRaven 2,444 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 13 hours ago, Ryan4VT said: They are a 540 School. Those are the rankings for teams in the 276 code. Which even furthers the WTF question of Magna Vista. But that’s why no Giles. Magna Vista is in the 276 area code though... sixcat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,554 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 10 hours ago, cityofRaven said: Magna Vista is in the 276 area code though... I know. That’s why I’m saying it’s a WTF moment when Giles is 540 yet Magna Vista is 276. Crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog 82 11 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Wow y'all really know those area codes for each team. I'm impressed! I'll have to get out the phone book and study. Guess I've been occupied with other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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