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  1. Exactly! Galax would happily play Central!
    4 points
  2. Gentlemen, kindly take this basketball nonsense over to the basketball forum. Some of us could care less about the roundball. We speak football around these parts.
    4 points
  3. Really hate to get into the fray, but why not, opinions are what they are, and I (along with everyone) have one, sometimes good, sometimes not so good. The spread is the best offense if you have the personal to run it, if not the "T" or "Wing T", the "Pro Set" or any other running formation will work better, (if you have the personal). Richlands has a mixture of personal, different than from past teams. One of the problems with Richlands running the spread this year is lack of speed, and receivers not getting open. I think the QB is a good athlete, but not a good enough passer for the spread. Now as far as the run game, if Richlands chooses to go that way, they have a couple of good backs to go along with the QB as a runner, but when there is no threat to pass, and no misdirection in the backfield, the defense can stack the box all night long, and to be honest, Richlands has an experience line at running the spread and pass blocking, but no so good at run blocking. To be a great run blocking team, we all know that you have to control the line backers, and most linemen who are tried and true pass blockers, are not experienced at controlling line backers. Back in the day (way back) when I played as a lineman, we were taught to move the defensive lineman, go take out the line backer. Not sure Richlands pass blocking line has experience doing this, so with the personal they are between a spread offense and a run offense. I think as the year goes along, they will improve at both, but in my opinion this is were they are now. Does this mean we quit being fans? NO! we get behind them through this rough period and let them know we are there. We all know that Richlands will make the playoffs and be a dangerous team by going through this, after all this is "The Blues" and Mance we're talking about!! GO BIG BLUE" I want to take a minute and thank all of you guys for having this board, and all those who post here, it makes football season even better.
    3 points
  4. I won't get into the debate of which formation is better because at the HS level, your personnel should really dictate that. And a good coach will adapt their offense to best take advantage of their players' skill set. Round peg, round hole concept. No one offense will work at every school. Richlands and Giles are perfect examples because they are on complete opposites of the spectrum. Giles has been running the single wing forever. Some years they're great, some years they're good and some years they're not. Offense is the same year in and year out. Only the players change. Everyone knows what they're running, but in the great years, nobody can stop them. Richlands has run the spread for, what, 15 years or so? Same as Giles, great, good and not so good years. The offense has stayed the same, but the players are different each year. Sometimes you have the players to run the offense of your choice and sometimes you don't. When you have athletes and speed everywhere, spread them out and force them to match up. When you have 5 - 6'5", 300 lb lineman and 230 lb RBs, cram it down their throat. Looking at Giles and Richlands, who both have great, long tenured coaches, proves that success has more to do with getting your talent in the right position to succeed rather than any particular offensive scheme. Now, when you're talking about college or NFL, where you can pick your talent, a whole different argument can be made.
    3 points
  5. Observer

    Ridgeview at Central

    Guys, I apologize for getting this all started.
    3 points
  6. redtiger

    Ridgeview at Central

    All games do
    2 points
  7. The whole point of the spread offense is to spread people out. It is a lot easier to to run the football against a 5 or 6 man box that is just a fact. Richlands has the ability to go 10 personnel and run for 200 yards a game because usually have one of the best passing attacks in swva because Mance does a great job with the pass concepts and 7 on 7 in the summer. I get the old school idea of you need 2 TE and a FB in the game or you can’t run the ball because that’s what swva is use to but here is a little math for you 5 lineman + 2 TE + 2 backs + 1 QB = 10 players guess how many defensive players you have in the box... 10 and you eliminate all the fancy Q runs that you can do out of the spread to account for that last defender you can block if you have a 6 man box. I would rather take my chances with 5 guys blocking perfect than trying to block 10 people any day of the week. This is all just my opinion though I’m just a young buck that likes a fast paced wide open offense that shows the coach’s creativity instead of 3 yards and a cloud of dust of running the same 4 plays over and over and over again..
    2 points
  8. sixcat

    Chilhowie vs Narz

    I don't know who you are referring to exactly. I can assure you, Galax coaches and administrators are on here often! Shawn Knight from the VHSL was on record in an article in the Roanoke Times pointing to complaints from Glade in respect to the Galax game being moved. He is in charge of competition for VHSL. It's his job to determine when and where playoff games will be played. I don't believe anyone is disputing the fact that Chilhowie didn't want to play Galax on turf. Not sure why though. They were clearly the better team. I understand the ship has sailed in terms of public opinion on where complaints came from. Believe what you want. I couldn't care less. My only point is, if you believe Mark Dixon isn't up for a challenge, you clearly don't know Mark Dixon! Complaints didn't come from him.
    2 points
  9. redtiger

    Ab vs gc?

    About 25-30% of any given football team truly cares about representing their school/community and upholding the history/tradition of the program. It can be preached all you want but thats just the truth, granted that percentage is probably higher at certain schools. How much did representing the school/community and history/tradition mean to the players at GC last year when their numbers were really low? Not trying to throw off on those kids or the program but its just the truth.
    2 points
  10. So, the question is this...was Shelby Valley that good or is the Ridgeview D that vulnerable to the rush. Please say it's Ridgeview, please say it's Ridgeview. haha
    2 points
  11. Ol Dawg

    Ridgeview at Central

    You should maybe reserve your opinions until you know the facts! Those kids were coached to do that. I know this first hand. TJ is the david koresh of wise county. Don't be blinded by the light. Those kids were told to do that. Yes, the kid did transfer to Union. So did his little brother. But in no way did he do it on his own. He also apologized to Mac for it after the game the next time they played. Dont forget that little tj commited the hard foul that same play on him. Funny how he is never brought up, just the kid that put him into the wall.
    2 points
  12. isaiah mcamis pushed mac. the other kid did too but mcamis pushed him while he was in the air. go look at the tape
    2 points
  13. Weren’t these the same guys on ESPN, Yahoo, and NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt, fighting over a PNut football game? good people huh. Great Examples. That’s the way to teach the kids more than football. 👏
    2 points
  14. That's a bold prediction, but I see the Rebels losing this one.
    2 points
  15. I believe this could be a very good game. Hurley will win the BDD if they stay injury free IMO. They have good lineman and 3 solid backs and a good defense to go along with it. Either way I am picking the Rebels to win this one.
    2 points
  16. This thread turned pure retarded.
    2 points
  17. And there for a second I was actually wanting to see Gate City turn their football program around and win some games. Thanks for snapping me out of that!
    2 points
  18. Graham QB and DB great Eddie Neel, one of the top players to ever come out of Graham High School in Football has a son who is a junior this year at Charlotte Catholic. His son is a top 20 ranked player in the state of North Carolina for the class of 2021. His name is Paul Neel. He's an athletic freak and plays RB and slot at Charlotte Catholic as well as Defensive Back. For many who might not know, Charlotte Catholic is an absolute powerhouse and to start there at a skilled position, you got to be pretty dang good. Below are highlights of Eddie's son, Paul Neel as a sophomore Keep in mind, he's only a sophomore in these clips. https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/paul-neel/_RGZZJS9EeeT-Oz0u-e-FA/videos.htm?videoid=a6b0f83f-ea6c-44e2-aa95-955593536e0c Sophomore Year Loading Sophomore Year6:08 Play VideoShare XTwitterFacebook /
    1 point
  19. Ryan4VT

    Chilhowie vs Narz

    The funny part is he’s one of your own, apparently. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
    1 point
  20. Well Folks, we would like to apologize about the wrong location of the Castlewood/Honaker game last Friday. Seems like Uncle Percy and Cousin Delbert got their A's & H's mixed up while selecting last week's games. Cousin Hoyt told me that I was "Not To Smart" by allowing these two to pick anything. Cousin Hoyt said that it doesn't a math scholar to figure out that P + D = Purty Dumb. Lets pick this week's losers. Giles at Graham The Feds were successful in capturing the Tazewell Bull Pups. Seems like the town of Bristol had put out an APB on the Bull Pups for disturbing the peace, chasing Bearkats up trees, and mauling Bearkats. Seems like The Feds had no problem apprending these "felons" after the Flat Tail Smackin' they received the previous week. Looks like the "Chicken Wang" may still be broken. The Sparatans have had 2 rough outings to start the season against Blacksburg and Christiansburg. Doesn't look like it's going to get any better this Friday. The Feds should have "The Case of The Broken Wang" solve pretty quick with very little trouble. Lil Leonard's Loser : Giles Chilhowie at Narrows Keeping it on The New River. The Big Green Wave will try to over turn a bunch of canoes with a bunch of Wild Indians on the warpath as they reach the Narrows Bridge this Friday Nite. Now the Green Wave is off to a 2 - 0 start. Last week they gave The Shaker Cats a serious scrubbing and we all know how cats don't like water. Now the Warriors of Chilhowie have taken up the warpath just like last year and have already scalped 2 opponents. These Warriors may have lost several braves from last year's war party but they're still a force to be reckoned with. The Big Green Wave will find out quick that these Warriors can canoe on any type of rough water they encounter. Lil! Leonard's Loser: Narrows Patrick Henry at Hurley Cousin Delbert said he would bet the farm on this pick because the loser would be The Rebels. DUH. Well The Glade Rebels will be crossing over The Rock House Mountain to encounter The Cliff Rebels this Friday Nite. Something will have to give this Friday Nite because both Brigades are 2 - 0. The Cliff Rebels have a new General this year and he will try several flanking moves to try to achieve a victory. However, The Glade Rebels are a veteran bunch of fighters with a veteran General. They will stop The Cliff Rebel's flanking moves and launch a counterattack that will pin The Cliff Rebels against their Cliff and force an unconditional surrender. Lil Leonard's Loser: The Cliff Rebels J. I. Burton at Lee Two weeks ago a bunch of Generals crept up the Powell Valley to hunt some Bears. They found a bunch of hungry Bears and ran back down the valley with these Bears clawing their behinds. Now The Black Raiders have been chased by a pack of hungry Wolves. Fought a losing battle against Indians. The Black Raiders will try to launch a surprise raid on the Lee Generals Headquarters this Friday Nite. Look for this toughen Black Raiders to have a successful raid on the Generals' Headquarters. They'll be riding home with a victory. Lil Leonard's Loser: Lee High
    1 point
  21. SWVAgridiron

    Chilhowie vs Narz

    As long as Narrows steps foot onto the field tomorrow, they have a chance. Please change your name so that it does not associate with Giles.
    1 point
  22. Jags52

    Richlands, moving forward

    I agree 100% De La Salle won 151 games in a row running the split back veer I promise you they didn’t change their offense after that first Mance is probably the winningest active coach in the area if he thinks Richlands should be in the spread I would stand by that as a fan base and not want to change everything after a 3 point game
    1 point
  23. Most everybody is making good points on this topic. It’s not only lack of speed. It’s lack of athleticism. Some of the kids have some speed but maybe don’t necessarily use it to make them a better football player. No matter what offense they run. They have to be able to be athletic and tough. Union would have loved to had Richlands total yards the first half. However , there style of play eventually wore down the blues. Richlands puts a lot of stress on defenses by lining up in the spread. But if they don’t start making plays outside of the one or 2 players that have so far nobody is going to honor the outside guys. When Webb is at w/r take a look at the coverage. The coaches probably see that and know they have a really good matchup somewhere else. But so far no consistency from them to make a play. By the third quarter teams have made adjustments. The blues will get it figured out hopefully. I think graham and ridgeview are at the top right now. Then union , tazewell, gate city and Richlands is somewhere in that mix. Seeds 3 through 6 should all be competitive .
    1 point
  24. Thats where you're wrong, and Union just proved it. Lets say were trying to run in the A gaps, in the spread you're running Inside Zone against 4 guys (typically 2 DTs and 2 LBs) at the high school level, in the T you're running FB Dive against the same 4 guys. Plus your math is wrong; 5 OL + 2 TEs + 2 backs + 1 QB = 10 but the defense has to respect the pass and theyre not gonna put more than 9 in the box, if they go 10 then play action is there all day. I get the concept of relying on fewer blocks to gain yards but what you lose is deception, its hard to be sure who has the ball when Union is running Dive/Belly all night, and unsure linebackers play flat footed and slow. Spread offense may be fun to watch but you know whats not fun to watch? An offense that only scores 3 points. Plus dont forget 2 TE, 2 Back, shotgun ...
    1 point
  25. Wolfpack64

    Ridgeview at Central

    Let's be honest. This game is going to come down to the Hogs.
    1 point
  26. CriticalNoise

    Ab vs gc?

    You have to restart somewhere. Just like building a new house, you can’t put the walls up until the foundation is down. Good point and good luck
    1 point
  27. GC_Quincy

    Ab vs gc?

    They had 46 last year which is usually the norm, so the numbers weren't low. Any school that goes 1-9 for 2 straight seasons will see a drop off in participation. This is the smallest number of kids I've seen GC have in 47 years of watching them, but after it's all over they may have the biggest heart of any team I've watched. They're not back yet, but I feel the foundation is being put down.
    1 point
  28. Jags52

    Tazewell VS. Mt. View

    Guys there is no such thing as transitive property in sports. Just because team A beat team B and team B beat team C does not mean that team A beats team C every time. That’s like if Tennessee was able to pull off some upset against let’s say Florida. That does not mean that Georgia State would beat Florida. Anything can happen in this crazy game that’s why we play the game
    1 point
  29. That’s what you do on these boards...talk. Truth must have struck a nerve. On on a side note, glad your knee has healed good. Saw you dunking. Good luck this season.
    1 point
  30. Not sure what you mean by A++++++friend. But hey, like who ya like. Not everyone likes everyone. We are good.
    1 point
  31. Counts

    Ridgeview at Central

    SV busted a big run in the 1st qtr (70ist yards) and put together another good drive later in the 1st half past that i cant think of them picking up more than 3 or 4 first downs until late in the 3rd qtr That being said if i were Central seeing those numbers put up by am opponent would make me feel good given the success that they have had on the ground so far this season
    1 point
  32. I am definitely concerned about the D. Not so much the O, because as long as you have 6 in the backfield, life is good. 😄 I'm not sure how many yards Shelby Valley had before the fourth quarter when the backups played for Ridgeview.
    1 point
  33. https://scoreboard.12dt.com/scoreboard/khsaa/kyfb19/stats_81714_1244
    1 point
  34. rsntu88

    UNION vs LETCHER COUNTY

    Well I think BlackBear just put his foot in his mouth.
    1 point
  35. Lebanon won’t beat castlewood. If honaker can’t beat them, I highly doubt Lebanon can.
    1 point
  36. Union_Fan

    Ab vs gc?

    Just saw this article concerning the championship game of the Appy/BSG P-Nut football league. An excerpt...“This means a lot,” an emotional Phillips said after the game. “Especially because it’s my last year. It’s been great being a Charger. I can’t wait to be a Bear.” Maybe kids in some towns don't care about pride and tradition, but these kids do. To generalize that "95%" of kids don't care is a foolish statement. The risks of playing football are well known, so it takes a lot more than selfish reasons to pursue the game. And if you read the article, it's not a misprint, we have a 7th grader that can put kickoffs into the endzone. A talented group coming up. The future is bright! http://www.thecoalfieldprogress.com/sports/chargers-go-undefeated-to-win-championship/article_972dc8d6-cfea-11e9-addb-5fa2c007c368.html
    1 point
  37. RichRich

    Ridgeview at Central

    Not many folks blinded by any light here. Most arent big fans of him. But we do know we are stuck with him.
    1 point
  38. Yeah I'm sure you know all the calls that were placed. 😕 Union has never shied away from tough OOC games. Why else would they schedule Richlands, Graham and Paintsville? Morristown West, a huge school, has been on the schedule. maybe he didn't call those schools so Union wouldn't have to play in BFE KY 11-on-14? Union has talked with schools like Elizabethton, Science Hill, etc...
    1 point
  39. Yes I agree that Ridgeview will win the game. Adkins is an absolute beast and I enjoy watching him play. I do think Central has some really good players and more speed this season but the line is weak. The sweep will be hard to do against a well coached team like Ridgeview.
    1 point
  40. Just be glad he Ain't at Abingdon.
    1 point
  41. Ryan4VT

    Giles @ Graham

    A top 5 all time thread on this board. And there’s been a LOT of threads...
    1 point
  42. I’m not sure what those “good group of coaches” need,either boxing lessons, or a class on sportsmanship, or maybe both, but please, let’s take the time to remember that Al Bundy scored 4 touchdowns in a single game for Polk High.
    1 point
  43. Optimal62

    Chilhowie vs Narz

    Um. Not true. Galax didn't have it moved. Galax didn't make the call, VHSL did after they visited the field AFTER Galax had spent thousands of dollars on new cleats for the kids to play on a muddy field. From my understanding a complaint came from a parent of the team that played the week before. Galax actually suggested to play at Rural retreat, which is a grass field. Everyone saying that Galax had it moved to turf because they didn't want to play on grass is absurd. They hadn't lost but one game on grass since they started playing on a turf field in 2017. They have a better record on grass than turf the past two years. Lol
    1 point
  44. Union usually has a tough OOC schedule but it wasn't that long ago Eastside was on the schedule lol. And honestly I'd rather see them play Eastside as opposed to LCC, because LCC never gives any power points and then you have to play in KY every two years.
    1 point
  45. RichRich

    Ridgeview at Central

    And it seems there is chatter every year that they are legit
    1 point
  46. They probably would have had VHSL not fed Riverheads the magic number to allow their school district to adjust boundaries to keep them A.
    1 point
  47. Old Soul

    Chilhowie vs Narz

    Isn’t that the reason Riverheads dropped down? Teams like Graham had the students to match up with them! Yep
    1 point
  48. Grapeape

    South @ Gate City

    Everyone on this thread / board seems to be looking forward. A wiser man than myself once said ‘Take ‘em one game at a time & everything will take care of itself.’
    1 point
  49. Yes that’s what I’m saying. I would put money on it that if you got to a Marion PH or GW games at 6:45 you would have time to grab a hot dog and get to your seat before kick off not the case at Chilhowie. Chilhowie also graduated 18 seniors and still rolling. But now that I think about it you are right they arnt the next Richlands Graham or Union because they don’t need tazewell or J.I. Burtons best players to be dominant
    1 point
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