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  1. Ryan4VT

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    I (wish I could vote for this) 77(times).
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  2. Graham would have done well at the single A level from 72 through 85, which is where they should have been. Graham also would have done well in 93, 2000, and really from 2000-2004ish at the Group 2A level and not playing Div 3. The 93 team by seasons end was very good, and lost to a once in a generational type team in Jef. Forest in the semis. Hard to say what happens historically, but Graham, Richlands, Gate City, and Giles have been at the same level for a while now, and P. Valley/Union has gone 2 decades since winning a title. One thing we can't account for and many forget about when discussing these things is not game 14 or 15 and which team is better on that game. It's about the wear and tear of playing the schedule of a higher level from games 1 through 13 and the competition getting there, and what competition does in the areas of injuries. I'm touching on the old Boise State argument and no question, as Boise demonstrated, they could play with and sometimes beat the elite Big 12/SEC schools in those Big Bowl games for one given game, but Boise wasn't going through the gauntlet like Oklahoma or Bama was week after week which tears into your depth chart. At the Div 3 level, Graham was playing the likes of 5A GW Danville, Blacksburg, Woodrow Wilson, Greenville, TN, and just an absolute gauntlet of teams long before the state semis or state finals. Historically, nobody knows what would have happened, but Graham truly did play up for years. Years I feel confident the GMen would have done well and very likely would have had a title if playing down were.... 1976- Graham lost to BBurg who then lost to Martinsville 6-3 as time expired, and Martinsville lost state title to legendary Southampton in the title game as time expired. Graham beat Gate City in 76. In single A, Pennington lost the state title to Madison County by a TD. 1981, Graham lost at Martinsville (if I can call it that) and Martinsville lost at Tabb the following week in the title game. 1990, 1993- one of the most underrated Graham teams. Lost 7-6 at Salem in a game Graham doubled Salem's total yardage and had 5 TOs. In the playoffs, Graham lost to a 2015 type Appo team in Jef. FOREST which was a once in a two decade type team. Giles won the Div 2 title and it's closest games were Blacksburg (beat em by a TD) and Haysi. Graham best Blacksburg by 2 TDs that year and led 26-7 until a last minute Blacksburg score. 2001. That Graham team shouldn't have lost to Harrisonburg 2003. Ahmad's senior year lost to again, what may have been a team of the decade in yr semis to Gretna. If Graham had played at their level, I think they have 6 more title minus one to equal 5 more. In 95, Graham wouldn't have beat Powell Valley. Graham had some good teams that they would have been in the conversation for in 1974, 1978 and 1984. One of Gate Cities toughest contest on that legendary team was their 37-0 win over Graham, but a game that was 14-0 going I to the fourth. GC beat Southampton 28-7 in yr state finals. If Graham is single A in 74, they would have been in the mix for sure.
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  3. I've got room in my truck if you want to buy me dinner...
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  4. Plywood_King

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    I just flew in from Whackertown, and boy, are my arms tired.
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  5. I think it's fair to say one team prob snipes one title from the other (Graham takes PVs in 89 but PV gets Grahams in 95) and the 1990 game is basically a coin flip. The 90 PV team was a veteran team that didn't have many holes. Graham probably had more athletic talent at the skill positions but PV was rock solid at the LOS and had a great QB. They finished undefeated and only one opponent, Lebanon, was within one score. There were a couple common opponents in 1990: Grundy (PV won 42-0, Graham won 47-16) Gate City (PV won 40-18, Graham won 34-15 in the half state game) Not a lot can be gleaned there, both beat GC handily at home and both beat Grundy handily, PV on road and Graham at home. would have been an incredible matchup, I'd favor PV but I'm not the most impartial juror. in 95, I feel like PV would be a decent favorite. They were undefeated and beat one of the two teams that got Graham early in the season, Lee, by a decent margin (PV won 48-33 at home, Graham fell 21-19 at Lee). The transitive property usually means very little when predicting old games but it's really all we have to go on. Both teams beat Richlands (PV won 34-13 on road, Graham won 31-3 on road) and Gate City (PV won 12-0 at GC, Graham beat them twice, 31-13 at home and 21-14 at GC). But it's all transitive and hypothetical anyway.
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  6. Real Sasquatch

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    Beats hiding out in a Cove....
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  7. redtiger

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    I take complete responsibility for my smartassery getting this started. I'll tell you the sane thing I told them at work, morale and humor may fail during these times but I will be the last holdout.
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  8. Plywood_King

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    With all the covid bickering, this thread may be the last Bastian of levity on the board. *edit* Man, I should really start to Lookout at the previous puns before I post.
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  9. Plywood_King

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    Came in, saw all these old posts, and immediately walkered back out.
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  10. Liam McPoyle

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    This thread took off like a Rocket.
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  11. EH31

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    It sure has been a dismal year
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  12. SW_VA_boy

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    With questions like that, you'll end up going down Wolf Creek without a paddle. And its good ways to Narrows.
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  13. BandanaVTDavis4321

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    This tread is totally going in the Wilderness.
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  14. Deleted Account

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    Stop trying to walker back this conversation.
    1 point
  15. Ryan4VT

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    Let’s all try to avoid any tunnel vision, y’all.
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  16. EH31

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    Seems like we’ve came up on a Clear fork in the road.
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  17. SW_VA_boy

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    Such a Bastian of discourse, this thread.
    1 point
  18. Bluefield researcher

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    This board is turning into a Ceres of Hicksville people.
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