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Not all of it was second hand. I’m not sure if that was you that made the statment but it read, and I quote “there was some talk prior to this game being played that the coaches were talking in the locker room” the point I was trying to make was nobody from gate city has hard evidence that it was said or where the statement came from. the opposing team couldn’t have been in the same locker room to hear the statement. I’m just saying if the person who actually heard it would come forward that would hopefully ease everyone’s mind and move on. Until then it’s a complete fabrication. Well I didn’t see the need to post anything about other coaches. All that was ever said about other coaches was that they coach very dramatic and they argue with refs on calls that don’t go their way and there are a lot of post about that but nothing about gate cities coach, which was from first hand people that were at those games. I do with they would put it in the past and let bygones be bygones. A player from gate city got fouled intentionally and a player from wise got fouled “not called” and went to the hospital. Hate it for both teams that that happened. Just put it in the past. Good luck to both teams and be safe they are calling for a lot of rain down that way.

Talked with someone little bit ago to find out and from what they stated was they sat a half. And they also stated that was more than what the player from gate city. But the video I seen of the push was no where near malicious intent. More of a Intentional foul, and the video of the wise player that got injured and what I was told taken to the hospital with a severe concussion and wouldn’t be back this season, would fit more of the definition “malicious” because there was injury. Someone said on here that the wise boy was elbowing first. So I watched the clip again and all I seen were hand checks which didn’t need to be resulted in an elbow to the head. It’s hard to watch both clips. But the wise player was really bad. I haven’t been to a game in the last 3 years. But I was confused on this mess. So I called some friends and the response that I got back was incredibly shocking. May want to read my earlier post it’s quite lengthy. But worth a read.

As a native to the area. I would be ashamed, and I wouldn’t tell anyone where I was from if they read half of these post. Put the past in the past and look to the future! Let the kids play without any derogatory remarks from fans. It’s a shame that the kids are more of adults than the adults. LEARN FROM THEM. I’m not taking sides, with reading these post and doing a little investigation and several phone calls to some friends from gate city and several friends from wise. I was told from both sides that when the player got hurt not one fan,coach,innocent bystander lashed out, and the student section from gate city started the Lord’s Prayer and everybody in the gym joined in “United” and prayed for the injured player. Bluedevil4life2008 stated that some of the fans are dough cowbell dudes that will fight for their players and if someone from gate city got hurt central better find a way out the back door that there would be fights and that is a promise. I will let you in on a something that may be a promise from the gate city side but the state will still see it as a threat 18.2-60. Threats of death or bodilyinjury to a person or member of his family; threats to commit serious bodily harm to persons on school property; penalty. A. 1. ... However, any person who violates this subsection with the intent to commit an act of terrorism as defined in § 18.2-46.4 is guilty of a Class 5 felony. A. 1. Any person who knowingly communicates, in a writing, including an electronically transmitted communication producing a visual or electronic message, a threat to kill or do bodily injury to a person, regarding that person or any member of his family, and the threat places such person in reasonable apprehension of death or bodily injury to himself or his family member, is guilty of a Class 6 felony. However, any person who violates this subsection with the intent to commit an act of terrorism as defined in § 18.2-46.4 is guilty of a Class 5 felony. 2. Any person who communicates a threat, in a writing, including an electronically transmitted communication producing a visual or electronic message, to kill or do bodily harm, (i) on the grounds or premises of any elementary, middle or secondary school property, (ii) at any elementary, middle or secondary school-sponsored event or (iii) on a school bus to any person or persons, regardless of whether the person who is the object of the threat actually receives the threat, and the threat would place the person who is the object of the threat in reasonable apprehension of death or bodily harm, is guilty of a Class 6 felony. B. Any person who orally makes a threat to any employee of any elementary, middle or secondary school, while on a school bus, on school property or at a school-sponsored activity, to kill or to do bodily injury to such person, is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. A prosecution pursuant to this section may be either in the county, city or town in which the communication was made or received. Now let’s say there is a fight before,during,after 18.2-57. Assault and battery; penalty. A. Any person who commits a simple assault or assault and battery is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor, and if the person intentionally selects the person against whom a simple assault is committed because of his race, religious conviction, color or national origin, the penalty upon conviction shall include a term of confinement of at least six months, 30 days of which shall be a mandatory minimum term of confinement. B. However, if a person intentionally selects the person against whom an assault and battery resulting in bodily injury is committed because of his race, religious conviction, color or national origin, the person is guilty of a Class 6 felony, and the penalty upon conviction shall include a term of confinement of at least six months, 30 days of which shall be a mandatory minimum term of confinement. C. In addition, if any person commits an assault or an assault and battery against another knowing or having reason to know that such other person is a judge, a magistrate, a law-enforcement officer as defined in subsection F, a correctional officer as defined in § 53.1-1, a person directly involved in the care, treatment, or supervision of inmates in the custody of the Department of Corrections or an employee of a local or regional correctional facility directly involved in the care, treatment, or supervision of inmates in the custody of the facility, a person directly involved in the care, treatment, or supervision of persons in the custody of or under the supervision of the Department of Juvenile Justice, an employee or other individual who provides control, care, or treatment of sexually violent predators committed to the custody of the Department of Behavioral Health and Developmental Services, a firefighter as defined in § 65.2-102, or a volunteer firefighter or any emergency medical services personnel member who is employed by or is a volunteer of an emergency medical services agency or as a member of a bona fide volunteer fire department or volunteer emergency medical services agency, regardless of whether a resolution has been adopted by the governing body of a political subdivision recognizing such firefighters or emergency medical services personnel as employees, engaged in the performance of his public duties anywhere in the Commonwealth, such person is guilty of a Class 6 felony, and, upon conviction, the sentence of such person shall include a mandatory minimum term of confinement of six months. Nothing in this subsection shall be construed to affect the right of any person charged with a violation of this section from asserting and presenting evidence in support of any defenses to the charge that may be available under common law. D. In addition, if any person commits a battery against another knowing or having reason to know that such other person is a full-time or part-time employee of any public or private elementary or secondary school and is engaged in the performance of his duties as such, he is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor and the sentence of such person upon conviction shall include a sentence of 15 days in jail, two days of which shall be a mandatory minimum term of confinement. However, if the offense is committed by use of a firearm or other weapon prohibited on school property pursuant to § 18.2-308.1, the person shall serve a mandatory minimum sentence of confinement of six months. E. In addition, any person who commits a battery against another knowing or having reason to know that such individual is a health care provider as defined in § 8.01-581.1 who is engaged in the performance of his duties in a hospital or in an emergency room on the premises of any clinic or other facility rendering emergency medical care is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. The sentence of such person, upon conviction, shall include a term of confinement of 15 days in jail, two days of which shall be a mandatory minimum term of confinement. F. As used in this section: "Hospital" means a public or private institution licensed pursuant to Chapter 5 (§ 32.1-123 et seq.) of Title 32.1 or Article 2 (§ 37.2-403 et seq.) of Chapter 4 of Title 37.2. "Judge" means any justice or judge of a court of record of the Commonwealth including a judge designated under § 17.1-105, a judge under temporary recall under § 17.1-106, or a judge pro tempore under § 17.1-109, any member of the State Corporation Commission, or of the Virginia Workers' Compensation Commission, and any judge of a district court of the Commonwealth or any substitute judge of such district court. "Law-enforcement officer" means any full-time or part-time employee of a police department or sheriff's office that is part of or administered by the Commonwealth or any political subdivision thereof who is responsible for the prevention or detection of crime and the enforcement of the penal, traffic or highway laws of the Commonwealth, any conservation officer of the Department of Conservation and Recreation commissioned pursuant to § 10.1-115, any special agent of the Virginia Alcoholic Beverage Control Authority, conservation police officers appointed pursuant to § 29.1-200, full-time sworn members of the enforcement division of the Department of Motor Vehicles appointed pursuant to § 46.2-217, and any employee with internal investigations authority designated by the Department of Corrections pursuant to subdivision 11 of § 53.1-10, and such officer also includes jail officers in local and regional correctional facilities, all deputy sheriffs, whether assigned to law-enforcement duties, court services or local jail responsibilities, auxiliary police officers appointed or provided for pursuant to §§ 15.2-1731 and 15.2-1733, auxiliary deputy sheriffs appointed pursuant to § 15.2-1603, police officers of the Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority pursuant to § 5.1-158, and fire marshals appointed pursuant to § 27-30 when such fire marshals have police powers as set out in §§ 27-34.2 and 27-34.2:1. "School security officer" means an individual who is employed by the local school board for the purpose of maintaining order and discipline, preventing crime, investigating violations of school board policies and detaining persons violating the law or school board policies on school property, a school bus or at a school-sponsored activity and who is responsible solely for ensuring the safety, security and welfare of all students, faculty and staff in the assigned school. G. "Simple assault" or "assault and battery" shall not be construed to include the use of, by any school security officer or full-time or part-time employee of any public or private elementary or secondary school while acting in the course and scope of his official capacity, any of the following: (i) incidental, minor or reasonable physical contact or other actions designed to maintain order and control; (ii) reasonable and necessary force to quell a disturbance or remove a student from the scene of a disturbance that threatens physical injury to persons or damage to property; (iii) reasonable and necessary force to prevent a student from inflicting physical harm on himself; (iv) reasonable and necessary force for self-defense or the defense of others; or (v) reasonable and necessary force to obtain possession of weapons or other dangerous objects or controlled substances or associated paraphernalia that are upon the person of the student or within his control. In determining whether a person was acting within the exceptions provided in this subsection, due deference shall be given to reasonable judgments that were made by a school security officer or full-time or part-time employee of any public or private elementary or secondary school at the time of the event. Now I am sure both fans read this forum and they tell people what was said on here. That being said I see wise sitting back and waiting for gate city to make the first move. My opinion i see there is hard feelings from what happened in the past with McClung but nobody has real hard evidence that anything took place besides the push. One person said it was said in the locker room before the game, which that can’t be believed because opposing teams don’t go in each other’s locker room. So scratch that theory. (2) someone said a middle school student told a parent at halftime again not reliable or hard evedence(3) someone said it was said going to the locker room at halftime. Plosable but not hard evidence because the push happened the first half. I wasn’t there but I’m sure you are going to ask what makes me think that? The video that was posted on here shows the push at the goal where wise players are sitting which would be the first half. If it were the second half McClung would be going to the wrong goal should be going the other direction. So nobody from either side knows. My dad always told me 2 things growing up (1)“it’s better to sit there and look stupid than it is to opening your mouth and proving it” (2)”if you dont know what you are talking about or if you don’t know the truth don’t say anything you have no right” next I was able to gather a few facts and seems to be a starting trend and people will get mad, but I’m not here to make you happy if you are snowflake or your feelings get hurt easily this isn’t going to be for you. Please note that I asked several different people and they all concurred on what I’m about to say. 1. Gate city vs graham graham was up and something or someone did or said something in the stands which the gate city coach pretty had a melt down and pretty much stopped the game but couldn’t point out the suspect in question. 2. Gate city vs Cleveland Cleveland was up when McClung got into a shoving/word exchange with a Cleveland player. 3. Gate city vs central central was up when gate city coach got not one but 2 technicals and was ejected from the game. 4. Gate city vs central central was up when gate city coach had yet another break down after a call for traveling on one of his players. When the wise coach was clapping and gate city coach didn’t like it so he said a few curse words and he had a melt down. After the game a gate city fan was trying to provoke something and wise walked away. That was from one of their own. And guess what the players shook hands and gave a pat on the back for a good game. But the gate city fan wasn’t the adult after the game, the players were. I had 3 people from gate city tell me this. Note I wasn’t and never will go to any of these games at all in southwest Virginia which is a shame because I love my home town, But adults acting like babies and not letting things go is ridiculous. Let bygones be bygones and let the best team win in a good clean game and for god sake stop yelling obscene language. There is an old saying well not to old. Act your age and not your shoe size. Best of luck to the teams that are still playing I wish you the best. Let the odds forever be in your favor!

So it was 2016/2017 when he got pushed and they heard the coach say that at halftime?

I guess that would help me with the confusion.

Did the push on mcClung happen before or after halftime?

It’s hard not to rely on the opinions of others when they say they go to a gate city basketball game and the home school fans and parents are sitting on both sides of the gym. That is a mess in its self and i have been told this from multiple different schools. So it is hard not to think it happens. So it will be a while before I come to any games down that way. Sounds like the parents and the fans control the teams, and that is just my thought.

Maybe a handfull in the last several years. But not in the 3 years I would say

The first push didn’t look that bad the second push was really bad

No I wasn’t at the game. I currently reside elsewhere. But a native to the area. But what you said would explain a lot that it started with a middle school kid. But I wouldn’t say first hand evidence. It was just confusing from reading everyone’s post in what happened.

The video you are referring to of Mac getting fouled. The first push didn’t look that bad but the second push was uncalled for by the player.

So multiple people are saying that is what happened, but nobody knows for sure? And isn’t every teams plan to be more physical than their opponents? You say not a chance Scotty “assuming he is the coach” didn’t ask the player to do something? Is where I get confused, and where I see one it being one sided. It’s like “the pot calling the kettle black”. If gate city says he would never do that and the other coach would. Where is the evidence that backs up both claims? All I see is people getting on here like parents,children,coaches,news media etc....stating opinions not facts on any of the topics that are on this site. You said it correctly when you said that players lose their cool. happens on both sides but seems more from parents, coaches, players, students that like to start rumors,which is the case that I’m trying wrap my head around with the locker room, halftime aledged statement. Not one person has came forward and said I heard/not heard the gate city coach say get him off you, whatever it takes. And not one person has came forward and said/not said I heard central coach say undercut him or something in that nature. I would say let the 2 teams play without the fans and there would be a really good game, and the winning team would say both teams played hard and congrats to them. But I have talked to different people over the years from abingdon, John battle, east side, graham, and so on. They don’t like going to gate city to play and They said it’s not that they are playing them because, who didnt want to see the Mac and Irvin show. It’s the disrespect that was shown to them not from the team but fans and a couple of the coaches, but that is their opinion and they have that right. But when someone says they heard something from this person and this person heard from another source, next thing you know by the time you heard it the story has changed 184858583726263300 times and it boils down to they don’t really know. Not on either side of their conflict just outside looking in. Thoughts?

Reading this southwest Virgina Jerry springer nonsense and Trying to put together why in the world is going on so here is my opinion. Contradicting stories from one side! One says that happened in the locker room before the game, you say that happened at halftime. Did anybody hear the alleged statement? Was anyone there? How does the opposing team hear something in a locker room of their opponents? Wasn’t at either game but how do some of you know that the coach didn’t ask the player to throw an elbow? Or be rough to get them to back off? I’m gonna go out on a limb and say of course the coach isn’t going to say that because if he does admit to it he would probably get fired,sued,and wouldn’t be allowed to work in another school anywhere and they would be working at a fast food joint. If the player did do it at his own free will, why is it just a half game suspension? From what I hear the other player is out for the season. Why isn’t the other player out for the season? If it was intentional? Just trying to put a messed up puzzle together. Does it go back farther than what people think? Is everyones statement on this forum hear say, opinions, facts? If they are facts we all would like to see the evidence to back up these claims. Does anyone have any answers? They would be greatly appreciated for everyone involved