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M7
Starts with the 3A Abingdon team.  They lost a lot of skill positions (QB,WRs, RB) but simply have more kids to pick from.  People forget that M7 teams have to beat Abingdon to win the conference.
Ridgeview- Popular pick as they return (10) starters on Offense (lose their #4 WR).  They have, IMHO, the best QB in the region (Kingsport Times offensive POY), All-State WR in Beavers, very talented WR/RB Cannon Hill and Koda Counts at WR (59 receptions).  They have to replace two All Region DL and their MLB but are very fast and athletic in D but a bit undersized.
Union- Return good amount of starters; however, they will be replacing very valuable and talented players.  They lose  All-State RB and All region LB Lomax, QB/DB Bunch, WR/DB/PR Malachi Jenkins, WR/DB C. Jenkins and a couple of OL/DL.  Should be pretty good on D but O will take a step back.
Central- Devastating lose of talent on both sides of the ball plus will be breaking in a new head coach.  They lose  (3) All-State defensive guys in LB Tester, DB Mullins and DL L. Mullins.  They also lose All Region LB in Boggs. On offense they lose Mr Everything, Ethan Mullins, RB/TE Tester, 3 OL (All Region Center), RB Boggs, WR Sartin. 
 
Lee- Returns their QB and some skill positions and a good nucleus of OL/DL.  They will be improved and should challenge for a playoff spot again.
Gate City loses Carson Jenkins, the most overlooked explosive player in the M7 last season.
John Battle-  Poor damn John Battle.  

We’ve been saying this all year.  There may never be another season with this much WR talent in SWVA, ever.  Elite talent.  Harris and Beavers had over 1000 receiving and both come back another year.  Webb, Jenkins and Bradshaw are D-1 and we haven’t MW tioned the two very good WRs for Abingdon and Jenkins from Union!

We’ve been saying this all year.  There may never be another season with this much WR talent in SWVA, ever.  Elite talent.  Harris and Beavers had over 1000 receiving and both come back another year.  Webb, Jenkins and Bradshaw are D-1 and we haven’t MW tioned the two very good WRs for Abingdon and Jenkins from Union!

I don’t think you watched enough RV football this year.  RV is Tazewell…only with a better defense.  I’m not disagreeing with what you are saying about Tazewell and Harris.  I’m disagreeing with some of your RV observations.  RV didn’t have a running game once teams figured out it was just a basic zone read.  The difference is that Tazewell quickly understood what they were and weren’t and RV never really figured it out.  Both had Fr QBs and average, at best, lines and a stable of kids who can catch the ball. 
If you want to compare Harris to Beavers—-review their common opponents (Richlands, Graham, Central, Bluefield) to see how they played and impacted those games and break down their stats.  If you want an eye test…shit Hudl is out there and will show you everything.
I see two similar WRs but if you see one clearly better than the other, to each his own. I have both of them ahead of Dougherty, but that may be some SWVA homerism.  And if you want to really blow up this board…I think they are better pure WRs than Bradshaw who is more APB and slot.
 

Unguardable if ran correctly, especially with a 6’2” WR with good hands!  I love it.  I’d like to see RV do this with Beavers as well.  It would be an awesome counter to all the fades they run him on.  It will be fun to watch these two and their QBs next season.

Unguardable if ran correctly, especially with a 6’2” WR with good hands!  I love it.  I’d like to see RV do this with Beavers as well.  It would be an awesome counter to all the fades they run him on.  It will be fun to watch these two and their QBs next season.

I put Beavers on the level closest to Bradshaw over Harris. Harris a a stud. I think he's a FCS/Small FBS non P5 WR which makes him elite. I think Beavers is FBS level for sure.  He impressed me most in a loss. The loss to Bluefield where he took the game over against Bluefield, and if that game goes another 5 minutes, he likely wills Ridgeview to the win. Bluefield is very fast and Beavers was out jumping them, out running them, out positioning them, out athleting them, and pretty much toyed with the Bluefield secondary. 
Only my opinion like anyone else's opinion.  When all said and done, the QBs for RV and the Dogs will play on Saturday as will Beavers and Harris, and that's stating the obvious. 

There were some planned back shoulder throws. You can see one thrown at 0:32 in this clip, not to Harris but to Ethan Mills.
 
http://www.hudl.com/v/2GJHER

I will say this, from my time on this board it’s apparent that most SWD fans really don’t know much about any M7 team other than Union.  I’m an old SWD guy (when they had 11 teams in the district)and follow the M7 more now due to relatives that play on some of the M7 teams.  I watch a lot of football from both sides and there is a lot of stereotypes or hot takes that are a bit off.  That’s why I loved the first round playoff format where the two districts played each other.  There is a lot of homerism on here and that’s to be expected.  It’s good to stand for your team but sometimes the truth is the truth and it will usually play out.  I was blasted for saying Central’s D was the best in the M7 and they had the best LB core….both were true and on display when they played Union.  I was blasted for saying the RV QB is the best or seconD best QB in the region right now.  Was told he’s 3rd best in M7 alone. That’s proving itself out.  Just be open minded and freely debate….it’s what keep the board interesting..or else we go back to Graham and Union ping pong topics.  Lol.

I'm just glad we are talking about football and not basketball!! Someone wake @goose111874 up.

Well, here you are.  Shit....I thought people would be all about breaking down some film and actually seeing the athletes they speak on.  I'm assuming BluWolf probably hadn't seen Harris' film and what a classic true WR he is and I'm assuming that's the most you've seen Beavers.  We need to throw Bradshaw's film on here as well so everyone can see his skills. Webb, too.   BTW, I love how Tazewell uses Harris....they are more creative than RV.  Additionally, I love the planned back shoulder throws the Creasy kid does......I thought at first they were short,.....but I'm pretty sure that's planned....works great with Harris' length.  I think we should break down the RV QB vs Tazewell QB film as well.  It's all right here.

I will say this, from my time on this board it’s apparent that most SWD fans really don’t know much about any M7 team other than Union.  I’m an old SWD guy (when they had 11 teams in the district)and follow the M7 more now due to relatives that play on some of the M7 teams.  I watch a lot of football from both sides and there is a lot of stereotypes or hot takes that are a bit off.  That’s why I loved the first round playoff format where the two districts played each other.  There is a lot of homerism on here and that’s to be expected.  It’s good to stand for your team but sometimes the truth is the truth and it will usually play out.  I was blasted for saying Central’s D was the best in the M7 and they had the best LB core….both were true and on display when they played Union.  I was blasted for saying the RV QB is the best or seconD best QB in the region right now.  Was told he’s 3rd best in M7 alone. That’s proving itself out.  Just be open minded and freely debate….it’s what keep the board interesting..or else we go back to Graham and Union ping pong topics.  Lol.

Sounds like the Beavers kid would fit right in at the school in Bluefield, VA. Just sayin.........

I will say this, from my time on this board it’s apparent that most SWD fans really don’t know much about any M7 team other than Union.  I’m an old SWD guy (when they had 11 teams in the district)and follow the M7 more now due to relatives that play on some of the M7 teams.  I watch a lot of football from both sides and there is a lot of stereotypes or hot takes that are a bit off.  That’s why I loved the first round playoff format where the two districts played each other.  There is a lot of homerism on here and that’s to be expected.  It’s good to stand for your team but sometimes the truth is the truth and it will usually play out.  I was blasted for saying Central’s D was the best in the M7 and they had the best LB core….both were true and on display when they played Union.  I was blasted for saying the RV QB is the best or seconD best QB in the region right now.  Was told he’s 3rd best in M7 alone. That’s proving itself out.  Just be open minded and freely debate….it’s what keep the board interesting..or else we go back to Graham and Union ping pong topics.  Lol.

I don’t think you watched enough RV football this year.  RV is Tazewell…only with a better defense.  I’m not disagreeing with what you are saying about Tazewell and Harris.  I’m disagreeing with some of your RV observations.  RV didn’t have a running game once teams figured out it was just a basic zone read.  The difference is that Tazewell quickly understood what they were and weren’t and RV never really figured it out.  Both had Fr QBs and average, at best, lines and a stable of kids who can catch the ball. 
If you want to compare Harris to Beavers—-review their common opponents (Richlands, Graham, Central, Bluefield) to see how they played and impacted those games and break down their stats.  If you want an eye test…shit Hudl is out there and will show you everything.
I see two similar WRs but if you see one clearly better than the other, to each his own. I have both of them ahead of Dougherty, but that may be some SWVA homerism.  And if you want to really blow up this board…I think they are better pure WRs than Bradshaw who is more APB and slot.
 

Go watch their Hudl season highlights and make your own decision.  I think Harris was dinged on not being 1st Team for two reasons:
1) Team wasn’t that good and he didn’t appear to elevate his team or outright get win his team a big win.  Beavers beat Richlands twice…scoring two TDs in last 1:20 to win the play off game.  Bradshaw took over against RV in the playoffs and carried his team to a crucial win.  I’m not sure Cassius had that.
2) TD to catch ratio isn’t good.  He’s scoring once every 10 catches.  (Beavers and Bradshaw were once every 3 catches). I think this is an important stat….maybe others don’t.  This,IMHO, is as vital as a RB’s YPC.  
 
3) Project Bradshaw and Beavers TD and yards per catch with Harris’ reception total and you get a whole different beast. Just simple math..Beavers would have 31TDs and 2,156 yards.  Bradshaw is a bit harder because I can’t find his consensus season totals.  But you get the point.
 
Ive watched film on Bradshaw, Beavers, Harris and the Dougherty kid so far.  They are all close….but only Bradshaw and Beavers got special defensive attention week in and week out.  I don’t think I saw Dougherty hardly ever face a double.  

The 4 wide is absolutely RV’s base set.   I’m not even sure I saw two RBs once all season and they don’t have a TE….so…..where they go???  Beavers didn’t even lead RV in receptions…think that was Counts kid.
Also…the miracle needed against Richlands WAS Beavers.. lol.  He had two great TD catches in last 1:30 of the game to win it.  It’s not his fault his coaches absolutely refused to give up running for 0 and 1 yard against Richlands until the game was literally on the line.  The irony here is that Beavers’ numbers would be more other wordly if he played for Harris’s Dad.  Lol.  The RV coaches simply refuse to feed the ball to Beavers.  And I’ll definitely credit the Tazewell coaches for realizing they have an All State WR and scheming ways to get him the ball.  I thought Graham didn’t do a great job off isolating Bradshaw enough….and don’t get me started in RV’s use/misuse of their WR.

I don’t think people get too worked up about it.  As a process oriented guy, I’m just curious if there is a method to the madness….especially when most of the voters have never seen the kids play personally.  I’ve also been around this world long enough to know…most processes are ill defined, rarely audited/updated and due diligence is often not paid.  Trust me I have much more pressing issues to get worked up about.  

I don’t think people get too worked up about it.  As a process oriented guy, I’m just curious if there is a method to the madness….especially when most of the voters have never seen the kids play personally.  I’ve also been around this world long enough to know…most processes are ill defined, rarely audited/updated and due diligence is often not paid.  Trust me I have much more pressing issues to get worked up about.  

It helps when you hold back most of the kids as Wise did with their “super class”.  But it doesn’t auto translate into dominance.  Central’s class beat RV’s from crunch bunch all the way through JV….every single time except once in 8th grade.  But that RV Class beat them twice this year when it mattered….and with a younger class.  An offensive/coaching change (to a passing attack), a sensational Freshman QB and an out of state transfer WR derailed all those plans.  All of those events were unforeseen.  It happens.

Yep.  I was particularly looking to see how they were going to handle losing their super class.  Makes me wonder if losing all of those players expedited his decision.  Has anyone heard where he is going?

There was fierce competition at WR this year.  Will go down as best WR year in recent memory if not ever.  Webb is a D-1 signee and was bumped off by two Jr’s and recognized as the 4th best WR in region.  That’s nuts.

Well, if all 11 teams post their players individually we can eventually cobble this together.😂

Well, if all 11 teams post their players individually we can eventually cobble this together.😂

Well, if all 11 teams post their players individually we can eventually cobble this together.😂