You're right, a better analogy was the one with the Algebra teacher because using the drunk driving analogy was absurd.
You're right, physical abuse of a child is far less egregious than driving drunk. What was I thinking? /s
I'll say it again because you seem to be pretty dense. Two wrongs don't make a right!!! Whataboutism has no place in the discussion of child abuse.
By the way, justifying the physical abuse of a 15 year old kid based on something that happened in a college basketball game 32 years ago is pretty absurd!
The video I posted is full of 18, 19, and 20 year old boys. Not "grown men".
Appropriate behavior for public school employees when dealing with public school students, whether those students belong to them or not, is something that is clearly defined by state law within the public school ecosystem. Kevin Clifford was fired instantly from Patrick Henry - Roanoke more than 20 years ago for grabbing a football player in a similar fashion.
1 hour ago, jwgarrett20 said:
Has Gobble had a history of doing things like that with players that aren't his son?
Does a drunk driver get a pass when he crashes into a family of four because he's never crashed into anyone before? Maybe a better analogy, would the Algebra teacher be forgiven after grabbing a student by the chest, screaming in that students face, shaking them, and slap punch them in the back as they shove that student down the hallway? Why should rules differ because one is in a classroom setting while the other is on an athletic field? Rules are in place to handle these situations and shouldn't be ignored based on who the child/victim was or who the aggressor was. As I stated above, two wrongs never make a right!!!
I'm not going to advocate on a meaningless message board for someone losing his job . But if I were a member of that community, I would be questioning those elected to govern the public school system in Bristol pretty hard.
I guess Dale Brown should have been hung, tarred, and feathered by today's standards
Whataboutism has no place in this conversation. Two wrongs never make a right. And neither wrong should be ignored because one is slightly less egregious than the other.
Anyone else hearing the rumblings of a potential lawsuit in regards to the folks living close to the GHS project and the runoff from said project destroying some property?
Runoff is required by federal law to be contained onto the property under construction and cannot, for any reason, encroach upon adjoining properties. As a matter of fact, post-construction runoff isn't permitted by law to exceed pre-construction runoff. It has to be contained (piping, underground vaults, permanent sediment basins, etc.) and slowly released back into it's natural flow patterns.
If true, this isn't going to be an engineering issue. It will be a construction company negligence issue. I've seen it dozens of times. Contractors get lazy (or intentionally attempt to cut corners) by not installing proper erosion and sediment control measures prior to beginning construction. The inevitable happens and they attempt to blame anyone and everyone they can. It never works because engineering plans are scrutinized to the nth degree before construction permitting is issued.
Doesn't matter if it's his son or not. The coach is WAY out of line and should be unemployed, and possibly unemployable as a coach going forward.
I had to testify in court in a similar incident 15 or so years ago. Coach/dad beat the crap out of his catcher/son in the dugout between innings after the catcher attempted a pick-off on 3rd and airmailed the ball into left field allowing two runs to score. I was the plate umpire. Mama bear had coach/dad on the ground begging for his life before we even realized anything was going on. Coach/dad was arrested on the spot.
The moral of the story, you cannot, under any circumstances, put hands on a kid!
That will become 13/13 when (if) Grundy's new school opens, so nothing needs changed.
It will if the post before mine, the one I was responding to, happens. Lebanon, Marion, Richlands and Graham all drop to Class 1.
That’s a big “if” but based on the question the previous post was asking, something would need to change. Most likely a redraw of traditional regional boundaries. It’s more likely, nothing really changes.
If I remember correctly, ADM is taken every March even though each cycle is 2 years. The current cycle is 23/24-24/25 so the fall of 2025 would be the next cycle.
The next Executive Committee meeting is May 2nd. I assume the new ADM figures for the upcoming cycle will post sometime after that.
I could be wrong too. The March 31, 2022 ADM figures were posted July 31, 2023. The moral of the story with anything concerning VHSL, who the hell knows?!?!?
Sorry azz Galax and GW and Grayson have no chance against the mighty Spartans this year.
Grayson loses the majority of their team from the past couple of years unless they can find another crop of homeschool kids that haven’t turned 20 yet.
GW will be a load for the next couple of years if they can replace Smith and Houston. They were very young last season.
Galax has a solid group coming up through middle school right now. But I think the next couple of years will be down.
This funny because three of the coaches during my high school career taught English, math, & the other history. These days, I do see a lot of PE teachers that are coaches and I see many who aren’t even employed by school system around here anyway.
I can't recall a single coach that wasn't a teacher back in my high school days. But it is becoming more and more common for coaches to either be in non-teaching positions within the school system or not employed by the school system at all.
Who are some of those that don't, and what do they do for a living?
Sorry for the delay in responding. There was golf to be played after leaving the office yesterday afternoon.
Coaches don't have to actually teach class to be employed within a school system. It's simple for a school system to create a position for a coach. Mark Dixon was listed as a school psychologist. That doesn't mean he actually did anything in that official capacity. Shane Allen is an aide in the Special Education Department. As a matter of fact, only 3 varsity head coaches at Galax actually teach class. The volleyball coach teaches World History, the girls basketball coach teaches Geography and Personal Finance, and the boys basketball coach teaches Gym.
The baseball coach is an aide in the Middle School. The Swim & Dive, Cross Country, and Track & Field coaches run the Galax Recreation Center. One is Director, the other is the Assistant Director. The Wrestling coach lives in North Carolina. I have no idea what he does professionally but he doesn't work for the school system. The Golf coach is the General Manager of Blue Ridge Country Club. The majority of assistant coaches are listed as "paraprofessionals" on the school website but have no clear classroom responsibility. I assume they are aides.
Stephen James doesn't teach anything at Grayson. Seth Greer doesn't teach anything at Carroll. Both are listed on their schools directories but neither have a position listed. Greer was a state trooper for a decade prior to getting into coaching.
My thoughts are they don’t have a teacher position for there guy because they won’t move any of the old guys…. So they are having to circle the wagons to keep everyone happy
Is teaching a prerequisite in Wise County? Not too many football coaches teaching class anymore. At least not out this way (Region C).
So they must be talking about one of Fiddler's assistant coaches daughters- which I know nothing about any of them.
I know the entire coaching staff at PH Roanoke.
Both Johnson's are in their mid-60's and have been coaching in Roanoke for 40 years. Lee Johnson is PH's AD. I don't see either as a possibility.
Both Drakeford's are PH royalty. PH and Ferrum College Hall-Of-Fame. They would also be a terrible fit in Wise County so, I don't see either as a possibility.
Josh Dix has an incredibly successful business in Roanoke. I highly doubt he's leaving that behind to move to Wise County.
Tommy Jones is in his 60's and one of the best Track & Field coaches in Virginia. He's been at PH for 30 years. I don't see that as a possibility.
That leaves Jay Goad. The only one I don't know anything about. But I'm reasonably certain, none of the coaches on this list have a daughter playing basketball, including Goad. The head coach, Alan Fiddler, has a daughter named Shelby playing basketball at Niagara University. She just finished her sophomore season where she appeared in all 35 games.
Baseball used to be rather inexpensive for a kid to play. That's no longer the case. My brothers son played for the Lake Norman Flyers, LKN Fury and LKN Thunder (USSSA) for a number of years. The cost, travel and dedication was exorbitant. My nephew burned out and hasn't played baseball at all since his freshman year of high school.
Soccer is relatively inexpensive and can be played almost anywhere. Soccer has and will continue to hurt baseball numbers across the country.
High School soccer being played during baseball season in Virginia hurts some as well. Most other states around us play soccer in the fall.
They didn't win the Mountain 7. They were the 3rd or 4th best team in their own district. Richlands could have done that, especially with Trivette.
Not sure the quoted message above is the flex you seem to think it is. The Mountain 7 is the toughest district for girls basketball of the lower 3 classifications in the state. Central Wise might have been the favorite to win the Class 3 state title.
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Such harsh punishment. /s