swvasport_7 10 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 Them G-men was awful at the foul line from the sounds of it if they went 8-27 i mean they would have just made half of them they would have won Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHS06 10 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 I played for him for two years and I'll be the first to tell you he isn't a basketball coach. He's a good guy and I liked him, but not as a basketball coach. All of his plays are either Carolina plays or plays from Coach Jones. He doesn't mold anything to his players or their skill level. He doesn't know when to substitute. He plays obvious favorites. He doesn't know when to call timeouts. He gets upset about stupid stuff. I'm worried about his health. A few years back he had to take a leave of absence because of a heart condition. What is this year doing to his heart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy10 10 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 Im no doubting the Graham faithful who say he is a bad coach. You guys see him a lot more than I do throughout the year and you guys that have played for him know what goes on behind the scenes. All im saying is that regardless of what the coach does, the players have to control the ball and put the ball in the bucket. If they arent capable of doing that then there really isnt a lot that a coach can do. Â Bob Knight could have been on the bench last night and if Graham's players passed the ball the way they did and missed their foul shots the way they did they would have still lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano5 14 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 Bob Knight would have known that there isnt a shot clock and Graham can just hold the ball.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olewave 44 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 You have to use what the moms and dads send you to use. If they send you $hit, you play like $hit. Face the fact, Graham is not very good. And for what you use to do with Bradshaw and Remines, you do not have anyone near that good. Get real, it would not matter who the coach was, if you can not hit free throws, you are going to get a loss. It is not the coach, from what I have seen, he is one of the better in the southwest part of Virginia. Coach bashing is not the way to hide the fact that they are not very good to begin with. Get behind the program instead of passing the blame. As been said on here many times by the G-man, no one is going to get out of the regions from the swd. I agree, and no coach is going to make the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano5 14 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 you dont realize what we do up here in Bluefield....and it has nothing to do with the talent level on the floor when it comes to holding the ball....quick question...what defense was Grundy using in the 4th...were they puttin on pressure or sitting back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMoney55 11 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 I go to Bluefield and I can tell you that Graham's really isnt anything to be happy about. Granted Graham doesnt have much talent to work with but still it seems like he has no clue what he is doing. In the most recent BHS/GHS game he was running their biggest guy as the point guard and putting their best player, #32, against Shaun Brooks and Ansel Ponder. Seeing as you are in Grundy you might not know who those people are. Well #32 for Graham is maybe 5'10 and Shaun Brooks is 6'2 190 and Ansel is 6'3 185 and both are incredibly strong for their size. Graham was using their biggest man at point guard matched up against Bluefield's very fast point guard in Craig Ponder, who stands a hair over 5'11. That is not smart coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olewave 44 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 Quick answer, I do know what goes on from Bluefield, I am from there. Second, you hold the ball, you get fouled. You get fouled, you can not make a free throw. Case in point, do what got you to the fourth quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted6 10 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 Oh well I guess Carlock will have them practicing in their BVDS this week. As he took their practice jerseys from them last week, and maybe he can have them dress in the hallway as he took their names off the lockers last week as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano5 14 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 ok you didnt answer my question...were they putting pressure on the ball or sitting back in a zone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olewave 44 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 Grundy always plays zone, and likes to trap out of it. As for this year they have played little or no defense at all, except for Peck and Hess. For your answer it was a match up zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano5 14 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 if Graham would have stopped at half court...would someone have come out and put pressure on him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olewave 44 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 Yes, if not the official would have made them, since they were behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMoney55 11 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 honestly, it doesnt matter what kind of defense grundy was playing in the fourth quarter. Graham blew a HUGE lead in one quarter. the real question should be what defense was Graham playing that allowed Grundy to score 44 points in the last period of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olewave 44 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 The same defense Grundy was playing for three quarters. NONE..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMoney55 11 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 then boom. end of story. Grundy still allowed 25 points in that quarter to a terrible Graham offense..the only thing is that Graham gave up 44. The real contributing factor in this game is Grahams defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted6 10 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 [ QUOTE ] The same defense Grundy was playing for three quarters. NONE..... Â [/ QUOTE ] Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olewave 44 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 Todays kids have to want to play defense. Their name does not get in the headlines, like it does when you score 20 points. It has become a game of individuals, kind of like watching the NBA, all show no defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMoney55 11 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 i'll agree with you about the NBA. scoring titles really shouldnt even be given anymore. the real title should be laziest defense, the only problem being it would go to every team, especially in the western conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olewave 44 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 Great players make Great coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMoney55 11 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 coaches have to teach defense. when gilliard was at Bluefield, he taught defense and taught it well. The only fault with him is that he would try to change things at the worst of all times(state championships, rivalry games, the likes). Bluefield has been known for its pressure defense, not it's crazy ammount of scoring. In recent years weve held many teams known for high point totals to the 40-55 range. Great defense starts with a coach who knows what he's doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olewave 44 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 Kids have to buy into it. Bluefield's second five could win the swd. It would not matter what defense the teams used or if the kids buy in to it, if you do not have athletes that can play, you are not going to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 [ QUOTE ] Great defense starts with a coach who knows what he's doing. Â [/ QUOTE ] Â And you just made my point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesfans 10 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 10 for Grundy plays well. He gets lots of points as a quick release on defense, snow bird type play. He walks lots in the middle, play Grundy a zone and stop the running in the middle and they are beat. Give them credit tonight, what a come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy10 10 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Graham COULD have held the ball. When the players on Graham's team throw the ball to the other team it isnt the coach. Coach Carlock didnt go out there and take the ball and throw it to the other team. Coach Carlock didnt go out there and shoot their free throws for them. The KIDS have to take care of those things and they didnt and it seems that they havent been all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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