region4fan 13 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 well it just makes the tourney seem that much more meaningless. yes it rewards them for the whole season but i like the idea of the tourney meaning everything because its what every team works for in their season. question say a team wins the reg season in there district and then lays an egg in the district playoffs they still move on???? just a little confused How does it make it meaningless? You have teams that are fighting for their whole season in the tournament. A team like Marion goes on a run and makes the regional tournament. That is great for them! To answer your question, a team plays well all season and wins the district and plays ONE bad game and they are out of it? Should not be rewarded for winning the regular season and beating out the other teams in the district for 1st place? It is not like the other teams did not have a chance to knock them off, they played them twice during the regular season. You want to make one week the whole season. Your opinion is that the regular season does not count at all but for tournament seedings? That is crazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper1 10 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 congrats to marion. they also get the better route in regionals, being the #2 seed this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazrunner 10 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Now if there was only one bid per district, then yes, tournament champion would be #1. Since they get three, then regular season deserves the #1. so the number one in the regular season no matter where the finish in the tourney they get the one seed anyway????? plz clarify and i really hope it doesnt work like that because thats pretty dumb haha just sayin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazrunner 10 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 How does it make it meaningless? You have teams that are fighting for their whole season in the tournament. A team like Marion goes on a run and makes the regional tournament. That is great for them! To answer your question, a team plays well all season and wins the district and plays ONE bad game and they are out of it? Should not be rewarded for winning the regular season and beating out the other teams in the district for 1st place? It is not like the other teams did not have a chance to knock them off, they played them twice during the regular season. You want to make one week the whole season. Your opinion is that the regular season does not count at all but for tournament seedings? That is crazy! Im not sayin the regular season is pointless, Im not saying that at all, but the playoffs is what you play for during your season. Example in college basketball, march maddness is what all the teams play the reg season for. In college basketball, if they went by reg season stats and standings then we would have four number 1 seeds in the final four EVERY YEAR. I like the idea that any team can win during any day. and I think that marion should be the number 1 because they are the district champs. if every sport just went by reg season stats then there would be no surprises and surprises make sports that much more exciting. IF YOUR THE BEST, PROVE WHEN IT MATTERS!!!! and marion proved it WHEN IT MATTERED!! the best team is the team who can win when they have everything on the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
region4fan 13 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Im not sayin the regular season is pointless, Im not saying that at all, but the playoffs is what you play for during your season. Example in college basketball, march maddness is what all the teams play the reg season for. In college basketball, if they went by reg season stats and standings then we would have four number 1 seeds in the final four EVERY YEAR. I like the idea that any team can win during any day. and I think that marion should be the number 1 because they are the district champs. if every sport just went by reg season stats then there would be no surprises and surprises make sports that much more exciting. IF YOUR THE BEST, PROVE WHEN IT MATTERS!!!! and marion proved it WHEN IT MATTERED!! the best team is the team who can win when they have everything on the line. Actually, what you play for during the regular season is the regular season district championship. When you win that, you get an automatic spot in regionals as the district #1 team. You have proven yourself as the BEST team in that district by playing everyone in the district twice. The only sport that does not go by this is football. Basketball, baseball, softball, and soccer go by this. Where have you been for past 15 years or so? It has been like this forever. It is a fair system. If you do not win the regular season title, then you get a second chance by trying to win or place high in the tournament. The tournament is a second chance for all the teams that did not win the title. When it REALLY mattered was the regular season when Marion was losing to Abington and other teams. Should all that be overlooked? Neither Marion or Abingdon had ANYTHING on the line for that game. They both had their spots in regionals clinched. If Marion wants to play when eveerything is on the line, then beat Martinsville. Then beat Blacksburg or Carroll County..... REGIONALS IS WHERE EVERYTHING IS ON THE LINE! Win or you are gone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blow_tornado_dog 12 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Actually, what you play for during the regular season is the regular season district championship. When you win that, you get an automatic spot in regionals as the district #1 team. You have proven yourself as the BEST team in that district by playing everyone in the district twice. The only sport that does not go by this is football. Basketball, baseball, softball, and soccer go by this. Where have you been for past 15 years or so? It has been like this forever. It is a fair system. If you do not win the regular season title, then you get a second chance by trying to win or place high in the tournament. The tournament is a second chance for all the teams that did not win the title. When it REALLY mattered was the regular season when Marion was losing to Abington and other teams. Should all that be overlooked? Neither Marion or Abingdon had ANYTHING on the line for that game. They both had their spots in regionals clinched. If Marion wants to play when eveerything is on the line, then beat Martinsville. Then beat Blacksburg or Carroll County..... REGIONALS IS WHERE EVERYTHING IS ON THE LINE! Win or you are gone! say abingdon wouldve lost to graham in the playoffs then lost the 3rd/4th game to Carroll. would they still be in regions for winning regular season? if so, how is that fair to the others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazrunner 10 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Actually, what you play for during the regular season is the regular season district championship. When you win that, you get an automatic spot in regionals as the district #1 team. You have proven yourself as the BEST team in that district by playing everyone in the district twice. The only sport that does not go by this is football. Basketball, baseball, softball, and soccer go by this. Where have you been for past 15 years or so? It has been like this forever. It is a fair system. If you do not win the regular season title, then you get a second chance by trying to win or place high in the tournament. The tournament is a second chance for all the teams that did not win the title. When it REALLY mattered was the regular season when Marion was losing to Abington and other teams. Should all that be overlooked? Neither Marion or Abingdon had ANYTHING on the line for that game. They both had their spots in regionals clinched. If Marion wants to play when eveerything is on the line, then beat Martinsville. Then beat Blacksburg or Carroll County..... REGIONALS IS WHERE EVERYTHING IS ON THE LINE! Win or you are gone! look Im tired of arguing your not changing my opinon and im obviously not gonna change yours. I value the playoff number one more than the regular season number one. I value the team whos gonna win in the cluch more than a regular season game. I understand what your trying to say and its a good agruement but its just a matter of opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murray_41 10 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Actually, what you play for during the regular season is the regular season district championship. When you win that, you get an automatic spot in regionals as the district #1 team. You have proven yourself as the BEST team in that district by playing everyone in the district twice. The only sport that does not go by this is football. Basketball, baseball, softball, and soccer go by this. Where have you been for past 15 years or so? It has been like this forever. It is a fair system. If you do not win the regular season title, then you get a second chance by trying to win or place high in the tournament. The tournament is a second chance for all the teams that did not win the title. When it REALLY mattered was the regular season when Marion was losing to Abington and other teams. Should all that be overlooked? Neither Marion or Abingdon had ANYTHING on the line for that game. They both had their spots in regionals clinched. If Marion wants to play when eveerything is on the line, then beat Martinsville. Then beat Blacksburg or Carroll County..... REGIONALS IS WHERE EVERYTHING IS ON THE LINE! Win or you are gone! but which team will have the trophy and title of 2010 SWD Champions..MARION. So the tourny is important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carrollfan 15 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 they are both important. But regular season is harder to win then the district playoffs, so that is why the reg. season means more for the number 1 spot in regions. I help to change the way golf in the SWD was handled. When I started coaching golf it was all on the SWD tournament and reg. season had nothing to do with that day. That is stupid because you could be undefeated for the season and have one bad day and you did not go on. That is why we changed it to the format we have now. It is harder to stay on top of the SWD for the entire year then it is to get hot or get a lucky call during the tournament. So you can have your opinion on this matter but that does not mean that is the way it needs to be. The SWD in the next few years will be different then the last two because I believe the old SWD teams are starting to catch up to Abingdon and Marion. So with that said good luck to all SWD teams and good luck to the teams from Region 4 that make it to State. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VivaFutbol 10 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Look at the English FA. Championship promotion playoffs have the 3rd through 6th place team in a mini tourney. 1st and 2nd gained automatic promotion back into the EPL and deservedly so. If you wanna go by soccer standards (not March Madness) then the way to go is regular season. They don't have playoffs in professional soccer, at least not in Europe where it actaully means something. A little off note, but I've always liked the idea of a like a SWVA Champions League. Take Region IV, C, D and have all the teams, based on last years standings play a mini Champions League. It would add a little fun to it all, break them up into groups, advance to two legged stages then have a one legged final. Great idea, just impossible to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper1 10 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 also, the claim that marion won "when it mattered" is a little off, given the rules. abingdon didn't win when it didn't matter (except for the trophy, and i doubt they'd agree with that statement anyway) is a more accurate way of saying it. marion got the trophy, which is what the game was played for. they deserved the win, and proved something the way they played. both teams won "when it mattered"--marion in the previous rounds, and abingdon throughout the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
region4fan 13 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 but which team will have the trophy and title of 2010 SWD Champions..MARION. So the tourny is important. Actually, Abingdon is recognized as the Southwest District Champions and Marion is the Southwest District Tournament Champions. That is why Abingdon gets the number 1 Southwest seed in the regional tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
region4fan 13 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 say abingdon wouldve lost to graham in the playoffs then lost the 3rd/4th game to Carroll. would they still be in regions for winning regular season? if so, how is that fair to the others If Abingdon had lost to Graham, then there would NOT have been a 3rd place game. Graham and whoever won the other semifinal would have advanced to the regionals along with the regular season champion, Abingdon. If Carroll beat Graham, how bad would have Graham lost to Blacksburg since they beat Carroll 13-0????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazrunner 10 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 (edited) If Abingdon had lost to Graham, then there would NOT have been a 3rd place game. Graham and whoever won the other semifinal would have advanced to the regionals along with the regular season champion, Abingdon. If Carroll beat Graham, how bad would have Graham lost to Blacksburg since they beat Carroll 13-0????? wow so they get an automatic bid anyways???? actually if your gonna base "the district champion" by the reg season, just go ahead and take 2 and 3 of the reg season and do away with the district playoffs since you all ABSOLUTELY HATE the idea of the playoffs meaning everything including the number 1 seed for the certain districts in there regions. (sarcasim btw) in all reality yes its harder to win a reg season title definitly not gonna deny that. another example where the playoffs means more. Look at the NFL, just because a team has the best reg. season record doesn't mean they win the superbowl. Remember the year the pats went 18-1? did they win the superbowl that year? I believe not. If all sports just went by reg season records and stats you would not see teams like butler playing for a national championship in college basketball as a 5 seed. you wouldn't see goerge mason getting deep in the NCAA tourney as an 11 seed. Yet another example, College football, look how much controversy there is with the BSC because its ALL based on reg season and no playoffs what so ever. my point is "playoffs" meaning mostly everything is what makes sports exciting, surprising and enjoyed by millions of people and the playoffs is where the the teams ought to step up and play. the real "champion" team is gonna win when the pressure is on anyways getting back on topic. In my opinion the reg season should just be seeding for the district playoffs, because its like i said before, you work your "butt" off in the reg season to prepare for the playoffs and who says the team that gets hot at the end can't be the district champs??? PERIOD!! Edited June 2, 2010 by tazrunner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carrollfan 15 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 the regular season does mean something for the playoffs in the NFL. if you have the best record then they get the 1st seed and home field for the playoffs. We are not saying that the playoffs in soccer are meaningless, we are saying that the reg. season record carries more weight. This really does not matter because until the SWD catches up with the rest of the region then it will not matter who is where. Also High school playoff system is different format then the NFL. SO you are comparing apples to oranges and not apples to apples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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