EH31 2,514 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 I am not calling everyone a liberal, I just think it is a liberal idea to think everyone deserves a trophy. Not everyone deserves a trophy.. just the one that wins the SEC tournament. Dick_Vitale 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Vitale 342 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 Dick my man, sorry to offend you. Don't riot! lol I guess you also skimmed over the post saying I am a conservative. You do not help our cause making light of people's emotions. You are what is wrong with conservatives. But keep thumping that chest Milo :) You are better than everyone here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo 39 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 Dick, you jumped on me, if what I say bothers you , you can ignore it. I've not said if I am a democrat or a republican and could care less if you are conservative or not. I am talking about liberal ideas in basketball and wasting time and money on tournaments, risking injuries to basketball players playing meaningless games. I don't know what your motive is and really don't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Vitale 342 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 Since when did politics and high school sports have anything to do with one another lol? You tell these players and coaches that this tournament is meaningless. Get off your high horse pal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo 39 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 Dick your the one saying it does , "liberal" is not a word that pertains solely to politics, you are the one making hat assumption. liberal can mean simply being open to new opinions and disregarding tradition and moral values. liberal may mean only politics to you but trust me it can be used various subjects including basketball. In my opinion the conference tournaments at this point has nothing to offer the kids , the coaches or the players but false hope. If that puts me on a high horse so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Vitale 342 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 Dick your the one saying it does , "liberal" is not a word that pertains solely to politics, you are the one making hat assumption. liberal can mean simply being open to new opinions and disregarding tradition and moral values. liberal may mean only politics to you but trust me it can be used various subjects including basketball. In my opinion the conference tournaments at this point has nothing to offer the kids , the coaches or the players but false hope. If that puts me on a high horse so be it. You do realize that the #2 from each conference comes from conference tournaments? So take Conference 39 for instance... Let's say Grayson County gets hot and wins 2 games to face Richlands in the finals. Then Grayson County is going to Region while Graham stays at home preparing for Spring Sports. Or Conference 40... Let's say Central gets wild and wins a few games to face GC in the finals and wins it. (I know a far stretch of the imagination but we are dreaming here) that means that Central is the 2 seed form conference 40 and could travel to play Richlands. So please, tell me more about how conference tournaments do not matter. Ryan4VT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,546 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 You do realize that the #2 from each conference comes from conference tournaments? So take Conference 39 for instance... Let's say Grayson County gets hot and wins 2 games to face Richlands in the finals. Then Grayson County is going to Region while Graham stays at home preparing for Spring Sports. Or Conference 40... Let's say Central gets wild and wins a few games to face GC in the finals and wins it. (I know a far stretch of the imagination but we are dreaming here) that means that Central is the 2 seed form conference 40 and could travel to play Richlands. So please, tell me more about how conference tournaments do not matter. This. The conference tournaments mean something to the teams who didn't win the regular season. It doesn't mean a hill or beans to the team who won. Last years 2nd game at Richlands was meaningless, but a lot of fans on both sides didn't know that. They thought it was meaningful and that's why there was the big hubub. I was one of those who was upset. I didn't realize at the time that it didn't have any effect on the seedings. I will apologize (for the 40th time) that Richlands fans were upset last year. We aren't perfect. Although some people seem to think our fans and residents think they way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,546 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 liberal can mean simply being open to new opinions and disregarding tradition and moral values. I'm a democrat. Therefor I'm more liberal than conservative. And I can promise you 100% that my moral values are rock solid. And get politics out of sports. BigWinners 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swva_havok_fan 1,259 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 I'm a democrat. Therefor I'm more liberal than conservative. And I can promise you 100% that my moral values are rock solid. And get politics out of sports. Main reason I don't watch SC anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo 39 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 Dick to me the tournaments don't matter and are meaningless because the risk of having them far out weigh the slim glimmer of hope that a team that had a rough season may somehow get hot and earn a spot in the region. Example: I think Graham should have something to gain from the conference 39 tournament besides a trophy. Same with Union in 40 they can earn nothing but a trophy but be knocked out. The tournaments are not fair. You get fans that don't understand, risks of injuries teams seeing each other for the third time , fights. Case in point, the kid from Graham who has been on fire in both games against Richlands has taken three hard fouls and one last night that everyone agrees should have been flagrant. Now if this kid takes another hard foul I don't call it a mistake. The tournaments should be equal to all teams involved but they are not. Therefore they are meaningless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Vitale 342 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 Dick to me the tournaments don't matter and are meaningless because the risk of having them far out weigh the slim glimmer of hope that a team that had a rough season may somehow get hot and earn a spot in the region. Example: I think Graham should have something to gain from the conference 39 tournament besides a trophy. Same with Union in 40 they can earn nothing but a trophy but be knocked out. The tournaments are not fair. You get fans that don't understand, risks of injuries teams seeing each other for the third time , fights. Case in point, the kid from Graham who has been on fire in both games against Richlands has taken three hard fouls and one last night that everyone agrees should have been flagrant. Now if this kid takes another hard foul I don't call it a mistake. The tournaments should be equal to all teams involved but they are not. Therefore they are meaningless. Are you nuts? Graham is NOT in the Region tournament yet and neither is Union. They have to earn their way in. Only teams in Region now are GC/Richlands/DR/Mavahi because they won the season title in each conference. Conference tournaments are NOT useless... District tournaments are. District tournaments happened around Christmas time. Conference Tournaments are to decide who is the #2 seed from each conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo 39 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 Ryan4VT what did you think about the hard foul on Graham kid last night? Was it flagrant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo 39 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 Dick I understand that but you won't bet that Union and Graham won't earn those spots. After their regular season play I believe both have earned a spot. And nothing present, but a "dream" to use your word that Union and Graham won't earn the spots during the tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,546 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 Ryan4VT what did you think about the hard foul on Graham kid last night? Was it flagrant?To be honest, I wasn't looking. I was tweeting at that moment. I only saw the reactions. That said, my brother said it was a flagrant. I'll take his word for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futbolking 766 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 The whole idea of the first game counting sucks anyway. If it weren't for Grayson County refusing to play everybody twice, we wouldn't be in this situation. They are the reason for this stupid rule. They need to either get out of the conference or play everybody twice. GMan and cityofRaven 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Vitale 342 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 The whole idea of the first game counting sucks anyway. If it weren't for Grayson County refusing to play everybody twice, we wouldn't be in this situation. They are the reason for this stupid rule. They need to either get out of the conference or play everybody twice. And Marion lol futbolking and GMan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,546 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 The whole idea of the first game counting sucks anyway. If it weren't for Grayson County refusing to play everybody twice, we wouldn't be in this situation. They are the reason for this stupid rule. They need to either get out of the conference or play everybody twice. Richlands only played Marion once as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Vitale 342 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Like I have said before in another post... Do away with districts and make each team play each conference opponent twice. Extra games are free for alls... add opponents that are close or tournaments. Do whatever you want to fill your schedule. Then we would not have this problem... futbolking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_school_blue 247 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 I'm a democrat. Therefor I'm more liberal than conservative. And I can promise you 100% that my moral values are rock solid. And get politics out of sports. Well Ryan....I'm sorry.....I'm sorry again........I will tell you that liberal values and conservative values are not the same. I agree.....tell that to the ultra liberal NBA and NFL.....and Hollywood for that matter. GMan and Bearcat Bob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamerball 566 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 GIRLS 1. Virginia 2. Marion 3. Grayson 4. Grundy 5. Richlands 6. Tazewell 7. Graham Quarters - Monday at higher seeds Graham @ Marion Tazewell @ Grayson Richlands @ Grundy Semis - Wednesday at Graham Virginia vs. Richlands/Grundy Graham/Marion vs. Grayson/Tazewell Finals - Saturday at Graham 5:00pm BHC and Roanoke Times are listing the girls first round games as this: Graham at Grayson County, 6 p.m. Richlands at Grundy, 7 p.m. Tazewell at Marion, 7 p.m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjkfan 12 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Like I have said before in another post... Do away with districts and make each team play each conference opponent twice. Extra games are free for alls... add opponents that are close or tournaments. Do whatever you want to fill your schedule. Then we would not have this problem... Next year conferences will no longer exist, only districts and we will move back to an almost similar set up to what we used to have. There will be 4 regions instead of 2 with each region consisting of 2 districts. Clinch Mountain district will have Abingdon, Central, Union, Ridgeview, Battle, Lee, Gate City. Everybody will play twice in the CM District. Abingdon will play in the district tournament, but must compete in 3A for their region tournament. Southwest District will include Tazewell, Richlands, Virginia High, Lebanon, Graham, and Marion if I'm not mistaken. The only odd ball thing is that Grayson County will not be in either of these two districts, but will compete in the region with Clinch Mountain and Southwest District teams. Unless something changes, for basketball, 4 teams will advance to make an 8 team region tournament. Seeding Abingdon in a 3A region tournament will be difficult, as will be seeding Grayson County in this region's tournament. Milo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo 39 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Much better !! Out with the meaningless conferences and keep the districts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,546 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 BHC and Roanoke Times are listing the girls first round games as this: Graham at Grayson County, 6 p.m. Richlands at Grundy, 7 p.m. Tazewell at Marion, 7 p.m. I originally had that, then I was told differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjkfan 12 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 BHC and Roanoke Times are listing the girls first round games as this: Graham at Grayson County, 6 p.m. Richlands at Grundy, 7 p.m. Tazewell at Marion, 7 p.m. If Graham's girls were a #7 seed, why did they play #3 seed Grayson County tonight? #2 usually plays #7. GMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamerball 566 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 If Graham's girls were a #7 seed, why did they play #3 seed Grayson County tonight? #2 usually plays #7.Tazewell was the 7th seed. Don't know why. http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/bkb-2017-conference-39-girls-bracket.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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