trevorpilkins 3 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, EH31 said: Yeeeah, heck with that. I'm not crowning nobody! Did you see last years rushing stats? JLA outrushed Cousin. Wow. Sad. Great insight, thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH31 2,518 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Cliffnote thoughts: Richlands - only about 2 skill position players away from being a 7-8 win team. Strong front 7. #6 needs to get a shot at QB the whole game. Kicker is D1 bound. Legitimately could make a case that he was the best player on the field tonight. Graham - Played timid. Costly turnover before the half. Cooke had 2 touchdowns but played his worst game of the year by far. Dropped what could've been a touchdown and dropped 2 sure fire interceptions in the 4th that would've ended the game. Allen played TOUGH, he didn't care to take or give a hit. #29 Vineyard doesn't get enough recognition. He played one of the best games by a linebacker I've seen in a long time. starcityfootballfan and cityofRaven 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH31 2,518 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, trevorpilkins said: Great insight, thanks for sharing. No problem. Check back next year and we'll talk about how Richlands should be favored over Graham because Trey Brown had more rushing yards in 3 1/2 quarters than all of Graham's RB's combined tonight! Deleted Account 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRazor 1,147 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, EH31 said: Cliffnote thoughts: Richlands - only about 2 skill position players away from being a 7-8 win team. Strong front 7. #6 needs to get a shot at QB the whole game. Kicker is D1 bound. Legitimately could make a case that he was the best player on the field tonight. Graham - Played timid. Costly turnover before the half. Cooke had 2 touchdowns but played his worst game of the year by far. Dropped what could've been a touchdown and dropped 2 sure fire interceptions in the 4th that would've ended the game. Allen played TOUGH, he didn't care to take or give a hit. #29 Vineyard doesn't get enough recognition. He played one of the best games by a linebacker I've seen in a long time. I agree...Vineyard was outstanding tonight. Gridiron60 and EH31 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevorpilkins 3 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, EH31 said: No problem. Check back next year and we'll talk about how Richlands should be favored over Graham because Trey Brown had more rushing yards in 3 1/2 quarters than all of Graham's RB's combined tonight! Majority of thread was wrong. I was saying Graham usually has better athletes. Richlands out coaches Graham, and out game plans them. Last years stat that surprised me was that he Defense could keep Cousins in check, AND that up 21 Graham didn’t give the ball to cousins ground and pound and keep the lead. Cameron Allen bailed Graham out tonight. Blown time out early in 3rd, penalties, false start to take them out of field goal range (which I wanted to see Graham kick!) I don’t mean it disrespectfully to Graham, I just think Richlands Coaches really do a great job in adjustments and gameplans. Especially tonight , short handed on DB and W R side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH31 2,518 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 12 minutes ago, trevorpilkins said: Majority of thread was wrong. I was saying Graham usually has better athletes. Richlands out coaches Graham, and out game plans them. Last years stat that surprised me was that he Defense could keep Cousins in check, AND that up 21 Graham didn’t give the ball to cousins ground and pound and keep the lead. Cameron Allen bailed Graham out tonight. Blown time out early in 3rd, penalties, false start to take them out of field goal range (which I wanted to see Graham kick!) I don’t mean it disrespectfully to Graham, I just think Richlands Coaches really do a great job in adjustments and gameplans. Especially tonight , short handed on DB and W R side. Graham had no business lining up to kick that FG. Curto is a good kicker but it would take an amazing kicker to make a 50 yard field goal to win a rivalry game in high school. That false start was a blessing in disguise for them.. with as many as Richlands had back deep to catch it, it could've ended up like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,552 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Question to those who were there: should Mance have went for two? Seemed like Richlands had all the momentum and probably weren't going to win in OT, why not just go for it ala Stuarts Draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionguy_2017 288 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, Ryan4VT said: Question to those who were there: should Mance have went for two? Seemed like Richlands had all the momentum and probably weren't going to win in OT, why not just go for it ala Stuarts Draft? I think he should have. Would he have gotten it? I kinda doubt it, but I think he has to. It gives them the better chance. You have all the momentum on your side for the first time all night, and in the back of your head you have to know how tough it would be to stop Graham in OT considering they only have to go a quarter of the field. Gridiron60 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH31 2,518 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Ryan4VT said: Question to those who were there: should Mance have went for two? Seemed like Richlands had all the momentum and probably weren't going to win in OT, why not just go for it ala Stuarts Draft? Yep. QB draw for the win. the bigger question is why 4 straight throws in OT when Graham couldn't stop 6 from getting positive yards running? Unionguy_2017 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan4VT 4,552 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Thanks, guys. I obviously wasn't there and was instead having a heart attack waiting for my guy to text me updates. I said on the air for the Blacksburg game that if it's me, you have nothing to lose and I'd go for it. But it's a tough call either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionguy_2017 288 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Ryan4VT said: Thanks, guys. I obviously wasn't there and was instead having a heart attack waiting for my guy to text me updates. I said on the air for the Blacksburg game that if it's me, you have nothing to lose and I'd go for it. But it's a tough call either way. You're right. It's a really tough one. But with your season arguably on the line I think you have to try to do something to get the W. Gridiron60 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRazor 1,147 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ryan4VT said: Question to those who were there: should Mance have went for two? Seemed like Richlands had all the momentum and probably weren't going to win in OT, why not just go for it ala Stuarts Draft? ABSOLUTELY! I was shocked he didn't. After the game I enjoyed his comments and thought they were just right. He ended in saying to Miss Edeth.. The better team won. It hurts but it's true. Ryan4VT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevorpilkins 3 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, BlueRazor said: ABSOLUTELY! I was shocked he didn't. After the game I enjoyed his comments and thought they were just right. He ended in saying to Miss Edeth.. The better team won. It hurts but it's true. I don’t think they should have? 29 has blown up plays all night? He had a huge fourth down stop where he almost took handoff. 5 dropped 2 sure fire I n f, and Allen came close to a toe tap I n t late down sideline.... Richlands without top two WR, I think g men get heels on goal line and rush 2 or 3 and just keep them in front. Graham had speed to play side line to sideline. 29 is a man child , he was qb spy a lot all night and rarely missed. If Richlands took ball scored 1st in 1st quarter, or scored on 1st possesion of second half , or scored first in over time. I felt wheels were coming off for Graham after onside kick recovery, definitely a deja Vu not Again feeling. Allen made big plays offensively , respect to him, he was difference in the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackWolf5 26 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 can Richlands still make the playoffs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Vitale 342 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 hour ago, BlackWolf5 said: can Richlands still make the playoffs? nm... Grayson Co lost. It looks like RIchlands might be able to squeak into the playoffs if they win out and Grayson loses another game perhaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 6 hours ago, EH31 said: Graham had no business lining up to kick that FG. Curto is a good kicker but it would take an amazing kicker to make a 50 yard field goal to win a rivalry game in high school. That false start was a blessing in disguise for them.. with as many as Richlands had back deep to catch it, it could've ended up like Pretty sure missed FGs are not returnable in VHSL ball... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea 27 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 7 hours ago, Unionguy_2017 said: Going forward, does Richlands go with #6 at QB or do they stick with #2? Gotta go with 2 since Grandpa is the Superintendent and Daddy is principal. I heard that when he got pulled in a game earlier in the year they were at the field house waiting for the coaching staff the next morning. I have been saying 6 should be QB since the first scrimmage this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_bean 1,058 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 27 minutes ago, UVAObserver said: Pretty sure missed FGs are not returnable in VHSL ball... Trust me they are. Happened against us at Marion few years back... Has to be caught in the air though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_bean 1,058 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, Flea said: Gotta go with 2 since Grandpa is the Superintendent and Daddy is principal. I heard that when he got pulled in a game earlier in the year they were at the field house waiting for the coaching staff the next morning. I have been saying 6 should be QB since the first scrimmage this year Nice to see that somewhere other than tazewell has to deal with that problem as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea 27 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Early in his career it would not have, but heard he may be gone after this year so let the Browns have the glory of the worst QB since Todd Heldreth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea 27 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Don't get me wrong he is probably a great kid but when you don't show up for all of the 7 on 7 and 6 takes over and makes strides then it leaves the rest of the team with out a leader and gives them no hope of having one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridiron60 2,554 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 59 minutes ago, stu_bean said: Nice to see that somewhere other than tazewell has to deal with that problem as well #6 mom is school board member who likes to get rid of coaches , Mance could be next. What's the saying? School boards and parents ruin sports. Mance is in a no win politically, pressure from Browns, most likely pressure from Moirs, both being his boss so to speak and both being parents/grandparents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridiron60 2,554 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 8 hours ago, trevorpilkins said: Majority of thread was wrong. I was saying Graham usually has better athletes. Richlands out coaches Graham, and out game plans them. Last years stat that surprised me was that he Defense could keep Cousins in check, AND that up 21 Graham didn’t give the ball to cousins ground and pound and keep the lead. Cameron Allen bailed Graham out tonight. Blown time out early in 3rd, penalties, false start to take them out of field goal range (which I wanted to see Graham kick!) I don’t mean it disrespectfully to Graham, I just think Richlands Coaches really do a great job in adjustments and gameplans. Especially tonight , short handed on DB and W R side. I hate to say it but tonight proved Graham needs some more seasoned knowledgeable coaching help. Way too many mistakes and bad play calls that shouldn't happen. Taking nothing away from them for the win, sometimes a team wins in spite of themselves. Vineyard was amazing for them! Kicker for Richlands doubling amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val 16 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Totally agree he is the worst QB since Heldreth even Stevie Wonder could see this I drove 5 1/2 hours to the Marion game and every time Race took the snap he made things happen I don't understand heir reasoning behind this I don't post a lot just frustrated about the season I have become spoiled over the years and have high expectations. When people ask me where I am from I tell them Richland's and they say they have a hell of a good football program and it makes me proud. I was also disappointed at Marion's facility they have spent zero dollars on up keep when a visiting team doesn't have a place to go for halftime they meet behind the bleachers I was shocked it was that way back in the 70's as they say Come On Man!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogs52 482 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 8 hours ago, Ryan4VT said: Question to those who were there: should Mance have went for two? Seemed like Richlands had all the momentum and probably weren't going to win in OT, why not just go for it ala Stuarts Draft? And I quote a Richlands fan ‘ he has no balls to go for two’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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