Can Mac get past 2770?

[1inStripes 932]

On 1/24/2018 at 8:37 PM, Liam McPoyle said:

Thanks for the link info, @Beamerball.

 

 

2/7: v Daniel Boone (TN) 
2/6: v Ridgeview
2/3: v Pulaski 
2/2: v Abingdon
1/30: v Battle  42
1/27: v Cleveland (TN)  39
1/26: v Union 30
1/23: v Wise Central 35 (W 99-70)
1/19: v Lee 42 (W, 111-67)
1/13: v Ridgeview 44 (W, 98-60)
1/10: v Abingdon 47 (W, 103-59)
1/6: v Floyd 33 (W, 75-54)
1/5: v Battle 33 (W, 86-40)
1/3: v Union 31 (W, 70-56)
*12/30: v Lakota East (OH) 28 (W, 66-54) (2,000 career points at end of game)
*12/29: v Fern Creek (KY) 44 (W, 70-68)
*12/28: v Tennessee High (TN) 40 (W, 79-43)
*12/27: v North Mecklenburg (NC) 26 (L, 80-64)
12/22: v Knoxville Christian (TN) 31 (W, 74-46)
12/19: v Daniel Boone (TN) 35 (W, 75-66)
12/15: v Wise Central 37 (W, 81-42)
12/12: v Lee 47 (W, 96-43)

Thru 2/1 totals: 664 points; 36.88 ppg; 2,378 total points
Gate City record: 17-1 (Max number of games: 31)
 

*updated points for each game, season total, ppg, and total points.

[Ryan4VT 4,553]

So here's a reset as of 2/1:

He needs 285 points to break Iverson's 948 mark. 

He needs 393 points to break Tanner's 2770 mark. 

There are 4 regular season games left, 2 guaranteed (basically) M7 tournament games and 3 guaranteed (basically) 2D games. That's 9 games that are all but certain. 

To break the record in those 9 games he would need 31.6ppg to break Iverson and 43.6ppg to break Tanner. The 32ppg is actually very plausible, given his season ppg is 37. 

If you add in the 3 state tournament games that they could potentially play (so this total is with a run to a state final), those numbers jump to 23.75 and 32.75 respectively. 

With a state title run, I'd be shocked if he didn't break both, given his pace this season. 

[WAVE 316 16]

1 hour ago, Ryan4VT said:

So here's a reset as of 2/1:

He needs 285 points to break Iverson's 948 mark. 

He needs 393 points to break Tanner's 2770 mark. 

There are 4 regular season games left, 2 guaranteed (basically) M7 tournament games and 3 guaranteed (basically) 2D games. That's 9 games that are all but certain. 

To break the record in those 9 games he would need 31.6ppg to break Iverson and 43.6ppg to break Tanner. The 32ppg is actually very plausible, given his season ppg is 37. 

If you add in the 3 state tournament games that they could potentially play (so this total is with a run to a state final), those numbers jump to 23.75 and 32.75 respectively. 

With a state title run, I'd be shocked if he didn't break both, given his pace this season. 

Thanks for your helpful update. Think the latter 2 or 3 games may be tougher to average the points he needs to break Tanners. He may need 3 or 4 super games of 50+points to help get him over the top!

[Ryan4VT 4,553]

31 minutes ago, WAVE 316 said:

Thanks for your helpful update. Think the latter 2 or 3 games may be tougher to average the points he needs to break Tanners. He may need 3 or 4 super games of 50+points to help get him over the top!

I've thought about that. He had the super game vs. Dan River last year in the regional semis. I'm not saying he has another one of those games, but it wouldn't shock me if he did somewhere along the way. And one of those type games would be a big boost. 

[Liam McPoyle 1,863]

Mac McClung scoring (Through 2/3): 20 games; 751 points; 37.55 ppg; 2,465 career points

2/7: v Daniel Boone (TN)
2/6: v Ridgeview
2/3: v Pulaski 47 (W, 89-69)
2/2: v Abingdon 40 (W, 103-51)
1/30: v Battle 42 (W, 84-64)

1/27: v Cleveland (TN) 39 (W, 82-72)

1/26: v Union 30 (W, 82-47)

1/23: v Wise Central 35 (W 99-70)

1/19: v Lee 42 (W, 111-67)

1/13: v Ridgeview 44 (W, 98-60)
1/10: v Abingdon 47 (W, 103-59)
1/6: v Floyd 33 (W, 75-54)

1/5: v Battle 33 (W, 86-40)

1/3: v Union 31 (W, 70-56)
12/30: v Lakota East (OH) 28 (W, 66-54) (2,000 career points at end of game)
12/29: v Fern Creek (KY) 44 (W, 70-68)

12/28: v Tennessee High (TN) 40 (W, 79-43)

12/27: v North Mecklenburg (NC) 26 (L, 80-64)

12/22: v Knoxville Christian (TN) 31 (W, 74-46)

12/19: v Daniel Boone (TN) 35 (W, 75-66)

12/15: v Wise Central 37 (W, 81-42)

12/12: v Lee 47 (W, 96-43)
 

Via Tanner Cook; Johnson City Press

Edited February 3, 2018 by Liam McPoyle
Updated through 2/3

[Liam McPoyle 1,863]

VHSL Most Points, Career (Thru 2/3/18)
1) Caleb Tanner (Floyd County, 2010-14) 2,770

2) Stacy Ervin (Twin Springs, 1993-97) 2,687

3) Andrew Rowsey (Rockbridge Co, 2009-13) 2,646

4) Odell Hodge (Laurel Park, 1989-92) 2,530

5) Mac McClung (Gate City, 2014-18) 2,465*

6) Steve Marsee (Pennington, 1973-76) 2,459

7) Kenny Hunt (Altavista, 2000-04) 2,368

8) Jason Landsdown (Broad Run, 1989-92) 2,346

9) Tyrece Rice (L.C. Bird, 2001-05) 2,328

10) Scottie Reynolds (Herndon, 2002-06) 2,306

11) Brad Nuckles (Council, 1999-02) 2,290

12) Danis Simmons (J.J. Kelly, 1986-89) 2,275 

*Active

Edited February 3, 2018 by Liam McPoyle
Updated through 2/3

[BigWinners 1,643]

Adds 47 today, jus insane. Liam, does that latest edit include today?

[Liam McPoyle 1,863]

31 minutes ago, BigWinners said:

Adds 47 today, jus insane. Liam, does that latest edit include today?

Yes, I updated the totals to include the 47 points today.

[WAVE 316 16]

15 hours ago, Liam McPoyle said:

Yes, I updated the totals to include the 47 points today.

Just curious if seniors in previous years got to play in as many post regular season games as current seniors get to. Could Mac have more games to score more points as guys say 10 or 15 yrs did  back? 

[Liam McPoyle 1,863]

5 hours ago, WAVE 316 said:

Just curious if seniors in previous years got to play in as many post regular season games as current seniors get to. Could Mac have more games to score more points as guys say 10 or 15 yrs did  back? 

The total number of games has inched up over the years.  The '70s and '80s had a 20-game regular season limit with a single elimination post season.  I think the limit may be 22 for the regular season now.  You also have both the champ and runner-up advancing out of district/conference and region.  It looks like Gate City will have 30 games if they make it to the title.  Powell Valley won the title in '74 playing 28 games.   

[WAVE 316 16]

1 hour ago, Liam McPoyle said:

The total number of games has inched up over the years.  The '70s and '80s had a 20-game regular season limit with a single elimination post season.  I think the limit may be 22 for the regular season now.  You also have both the champ and runner-up advancing out of district/conference and region.  It looks like Gate City will have 30 games if they make it to the title.  Powell Valley won the title in '74 playing 28 games.   

Thanks for the helpful info. Wonder when Steve Marcee played and how many games he played in his career compared to Mac?  I also heard there were no 3 point line in his era.

[Liam McPoyle 1,863]

6 minutes ago, WAVE 316 said:

Thanks for the helpful info. Wonder when Steve Marcee played and how many games he played in his career compared to Mac?  I also heard there were no 3 point line in his era.

Marsee's best season was 1975-'76 when he scored 768 points in 25 games (30.72 ppg).  I couldn't find his or McClung's number of career games, but MM will certainly play in more games before it's over.

No doubt Steve Marsee's point total would have been much higher with a 3-point line and deeper playoff runs.  

[Liam McPoyle 1,863]

Mac McClung scoring (Through 2/6): 21 games; 794 points; 37.81 ppg; 2,467 career points

2/7: v Daniel Boone (TN)
2/6: v Ridgeview 43 (W, 90-67)
2/3: v Pulaski 47 (W, 89-69)
2/2: v Abingdon 40 (W, 103-51)
1/30: v Battle 42 (W, 84-64)

1/27: v Cleveland (TN) 39 (W, 82-72)

1/26: v Union 30 (W, 82-47)

1/23: v Wise Central 35 (W 99-70)

1/19: v Lee 42 (W, 111-67)

1/13: v Ridgeview 44 (W, 98-60)
1/10: v Abingdon 47 (W, 103-59)
1/6: v Floyd 33 (W, 75-54)

1/5: v Battle 33 (W, 86-40)

1/3: v Union 31 (W, 70-56)
12/30: v Lakota East (OH) 28 (W, 66-54) 
12/29: v Fern Creek (KY) 44 (W, 70-68)

12/28: v Tennessee High (TN) 40 (W, 79-43)

12/27: v North Mecklenburg (NC) 26 (L, 80-64)

12/22: v Knoxville Christian (TN) 31 (W, 74-46)

12/19: v Daniel Boone (TN) 35 (W, 75-66)

12/15: v Wise Central 37 (W, 81-42)

12/12: v Lee 47 (W, 96-43)
 

VHSL Records
- Caleb Tanner, Floyd (all-time scorer; 2,770 career points)
- 1976-77: Joe Stiltner, Bland (season scoring average; 41.67 ppg)
- 1992-93: Allen Iverson, Bethel (season scoring points; 948 points)
 

Via Tanner Cook; Johnson City Press

Edited February 7, 2018 by Liam McPoyle
Corrected points total error

[Liam McPoyle 1,863]

VHSL Most Points, Career (Thru 2/6/18)
1) Caleb Tanner (Floyd County, 2010-14) 2,770

2) Stacy Ervin (Twin Springs, 1993-97) 2,687

3) Andrew Rowsey (Rockbridge Co, 2009-13) 2,646

4) Odell Hodge (Laurel Park, 1989-92) 2,530

5) Mac McClung (Gate City, 2014-18) 2,467*

6) Steve Marsee (Pennington, 1973-76) 2,459

7) Kenny Hunt (Altavista, 2000-04) 2,368

8) Jason Landsdown (Broad Run, 1989-92) 2,346

9) Tyrece Rice (L.C. Bird, 2001-05) 2,328

10) Scottie Reynolds (Herndon, 2002-06) 2,306

11) Brad Nuckles (Council, 1999-02) 2,290

12) Danis Simmons (J.J. Kelly, 1986-89) 2,275 

*Active

Edited February 7, 2018 by Liam McPoyle
Corrected points total error

[Beamerball 566]

Well, this is confusing.   Something has to be off.  Were they wrong on his 2000th career point?  He's score 506 since that point and 794 on the season as a whole, including all games that are listed.  The season total should be off unless the 2000th point was not scored against Lakota East.

 

 

Casey Goetz‏ @WCYB_CaseyGoetz 2h2 hours ago

After scoring 43 points tonight, @McclungMac is 154 points away from tying Allen Iverson's VHSL record of 948 points in a season. For his career, McClung has scored 2,506 points. That currently ranks 5th all-time in VHSL history. He's 264 points shy of the all-time career record

•  Casey Goetz‏ @WCYB_CaseyGoetz 38m38 minutes ago

   

CORRECTION: McClung's career total is 2,467 not 2,506. 39 points he scored in a benefit game earlier this season was counted towards that total according to Gate City High School. His season total did NOT include benefit game so that is correct, still 154 points shy of record

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[EH31 2,518]

5 minutes ago, Beamerball said:

Well, this is confusing.   Something has to be off.  Were they wrong on his 2000th career point?  He's score 506 since that point and 794 on the season as a whole, including all games that are listed.  The season total should be off unless the 2000th point was not scored against Lakota East.

 

 

Casey Goetz‏ @WCYB_CaseyGoetz 2h2 hours ago

After scoring 43 points tonight, @McclungMac is 154 points away from tying Allen Iverson's VHSL record of 948 points in a season. For his career, McClung has scored 2,506 points. That currently ranks 5th all-time in VHSL history. He's 264 points shy of the all-time career record

•  Casey Goetz‏ @WCYB_CaseyGoetz 38m38 minutes ago

   

CORRECTION: McClung's career total is 2,467 not 2,506. 39 points he scored in a benefit game earlier this season was counted towards that total according to Gate City High School. His season total did NOT include benefit game so that is correct, still 154 points shy of record

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I thought he dropped 50 in that benefit game?

[Beamerball 566]

I see now, looks they were indeed counting an extra game.  He scored 39 against Va High in the benefit game after Science Hill game in which he had 50 or so.  I looked back and found the KTN player of the year article from last year and it says 1673 at the conclusion of last season.  So, going on that, he would be at 2467 now.  Looks like 2000 came later against Battle on the 5th.

http://www.timesnews.net/Basketball/2017/08/03/Gate-City-s-Mac-McClung-commits-to-Rutgers

[WAVE 316 16]

7 hours ago, Beamerball said:

I see now, looks they were indeed counting an extra game.  He scored 39 against Va High in the benefit game after Science Hill game in which he had 50 or so.  I looked back and found the KTN player of the year article from last year and it says 1673 at the conclusion of last season.  So, going on that, he would be at 2467 now.  Looks like 2000 came later against Battle on the 5th.

http://www.timesnews.net/Basketball/2017/08/03/Gate-City-s-Mac-McClung-commits-to-Rutgers

How many points does he have at this time?  

[Liam McPoyle 1,863]

11 hours ago, Beamerball said:

Well, this is confusing.   Something has to be off.  Were they wrong on his 2000th career point?  He's score 506 since that point and 794 on the season as a whole, including all games that are listed.  The season total should be off unless the 2000th point was not scored against Lakota East.

 

 

Casey Goetz‏ @WCYB_CaseyGoetz 2h2 hours ago

After scoring 43 points tonight, @McclungMac is 154 points away from tying Allen Iverson's VHSL record of 948 points in a season. For his career, McClung has scored 2,506 points. That currently ranks 5th all-time in VHSL history. He's 264 points shy of the all-time career record

•  Casey Goetz‏ @WCYB_CaseyGoetz 38m38 minutes ago

   

CORRECTION: McClung's career total is 2,467 not 2,506. 39 points he scored in a benefit game earlier this season was counted towards that total according to Gate City High School. His season total did NOT include benefit game so that is correct, still 154 points shy of record

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Thanks, @Beamerball.  I corrected the errors in my posts and think that it's now accurate.

[BigWinners 1,643]

So how many games left max? Seven? I can't see him breaking record if it's seven or less games. 

[Liam McPoyle 1,863]

9 minutes ago, BigWinners said:

So how many games left max? Seven? I can't see him breaking record if it's seven or less games. 

Nine more is the max according to @swva_havok_fan

One more Regular season 

Eight playoff games if GC reaches Finals

Two max in District Tournament

Three max in Regionals

Three max in States 

[Liam McPoyle 1,863]

To surpass Caleb Tanner for the career scoring record in:

7 games, he needs to average 43.43 ppg.

8 games, he needs to average 38.0 ppg.

9 games, he needs to average 33.78 ppg.

 

To surpass Allen Iverson for the season scoring record in:

4 games, he needs to average 38.75 ppg.

5 games, he needs to average 31.00 ppg.

6 games, he needs to average  25.84 ppg.

7 games, he needs to average 22.15 ppg.

8 games, he needs to average 19.38 ppg.

9 games, he needs to average 17.23 ppg.

[BigWinners 1,643]

If he makes it 8-9 more games, it's def possible. And I feel comfortable saying he will break AIs record lol

[Ryan4VT 4,553]

He has 30 at the half tonight....

[Ryan4VT 4,553]

Mac finished with 45 tonight. 

He is 109 points away from Iverson's single season record. That 100% will fall in the 1st round of the regionals. Book it.