Reg 2D Playoff Scenarios

[Weatherman 135]

21 hours ago, Union_Fan said:

Week 9 Points for 2D

1.)	Ridgeview	7-1	198	24.75
2.)	Union	6-2	183	22.875
3.)	Graham	6-2	163	20.375
4.)	Richlands	4-4	159	19.875
5.)	Central	6-2	157	19.625
6.)	Tazewell	5-3	151	18.875
7.)	Gate City	4-5	149	16.55556
8.)	Marion	3-5	119	14.875
9.)	John Battle	1-7	99	12.375
10.)	Lebanon	1-7	92	11.5
11.)	Va High	0-8	92	11.5
12.)	Lee	0-8	90	11.25

Obviously Central is not getting any rider points to speak of with 4 of their victories over the 9-12 seeds who have only 2 wins between them.  Is this the first year of a two-year schedule cycle or the 2nd year?  Central needs to beef up their schedule now that their program is on solid footing.

[Gridiron60 2,554]

16 minutes ago, Weatherman said:

Obviously Central is not getting any rider points to speak of with 4 of their victories over the 9-12 seeds who have only 2 wins between them.  Is this the first year of a two-year schedule cycle or the 2nd year?  Central needs to beef up their schedule now that their program is on solid footing.

Central dropped Graham , Graham picked up Union. First year of two year cycle. As far as points, Graham would be better off dropping some and adding winning 1A schools...not saying that's smart or not but would yield more points.  

[Union_Fan 2,154]

21 minutes ago, Weatherman said:

Obviously Central is not getting any rider points to speak of with 4 of their victories over the 9-12 seeds who have only 2 wins between them.  Is this the first year of a two-year schedule cycle or the 2nd year?  Central needs to beef up their schedule now that their program is on solid footing.

Central, Graham and Union are all 6-2. Central and Graham are only separated by 6 points, but Central and Union are 26 points apart and if all 3 finish 8-2 that gap could be as much as 31.

Union does have the strongest schedule, but you don't always know what kind of season or injuries a team will have when you sign that contract. Va High and Lebanon definitely drug the Warriors' points down. Grundy won't be helping either.

[Weatherman 135]

9 minutes ago, Union_Fan said:

Central, Graham and Union are all 6-2. Central and Graham are only separated by 6 points, but Central and Union are 26 points apart and if all 3 finish 8-2 that gap could be as much as 31.

Union does have the strongest schedule, but you don't always know what kind of season or injuries a team will have when you sign that contract. Va High and Lebanon definitely drug the Warriors' points down. Grundy won't be helping either.

I see what you're saying.  Sometimes it is hard to predict how teams will be in the future, as last year Virginia High was pretty solid, and so was Grundy from what I remember.  Central needed to schedule some teams they could play with to be able to gain some confidence, now they need teams that can challenge them. But during the course of a long football season, a breather or two is sometimes needed.

[Optimal62 178]

45 minutes ago, Gridiron60 said:

Central dropped Graham , Graham picked up Union. First year of two year cycle. As far as points, Graham would be better off dropping some and adding winning 1A schools...not saying that's smart or not but would yield more points.  

 Glenvar took the route of scheduling perenial successful 1A schools. They scheduled  Galax and Riverheads first two games of this season. You beat a 1A team you still get 2A points when playing down. Even though they lost to Galax and Riverheads both, they have earned 17 rider points so far this year off of them. It's a smart move and when you play good 1A schools you are still playing competition that can make you better. 

[S10SQUAREBODY4LIFE 239]

Don't know that I'd call the program solid yet.  A marquee win could be a turning point but with that being said,  next step is to do it in November.  Good luck 2d

[Real Sasquatch 1,865]

Is Tazewell continuing the series with Bluefield and Princeton next season?   I would drop Princeton and try to pick up George Wythe or Chilhowie again.

[Union_Fan 2,154]

Not much changed after Friday's games, but I did notice 2 things. 1.) With Va High's loss to Lebanon, Marion is now the 8th seed even with a loss to Va High. 2.) Eastside's convincing victory over TW made me rethink their final 2 games. If they win out, they could possibly help Central secure the #5 seed over Tazewell or at least tie, even if the Warriors lose to GC.

Eastside wins out, Ridgeview finishes 9-1, Union 8-2, Va High over Marion. GC over Central. Mount View over Hannon.     Not Sure of the tie breaker between Central and Tazewell.

1.)	Ridgeview	9-1	276	27.6
2.)	Union	8-2	253	25.3
3.)	Graham	8-2	227	22.7
4.)	Richlands	6-4	216	21.6
5.)	Central	7-3	209	20.9
6.)	Tazewell	7-3	209	20.9
7.)	Gate City	5-5	194	19.4
8.)	Marion	3-7	150	15

 

Eastside wins out, Ridgeview loses to Pikeville, Union loses to Abingdon, Va High over Marion. GC over Central. Mount View over Hannon. 

1.)	Ridgeview	8-2	257	25.7
2.)	Union	7-3	235	23.5
3.)	Graham	8-2	226	22.6
4.)	Richlands	6-4	217	21.7
5.)	Tazewell	7-3	209	20.9
6.)	Central	7-3	207	20.7
7.)	Gate City	5-5	193	19.3
8.)	Marion	3-7	150	15

 

Eastside wins out, Ridgeview loses to Pikeville, Union loses to Abingdon, Va High over Marion. Central over GC. Mount View over Hannon. 

1.)	Ridgeview	8-2	257	25.7
2.)	Union	7-3	234	23.4
3.)	Graham	8-2	226	22.6
4.)	Central	8-2	222	22.2
5.)	Richlands	6-4	216	21.6
6.)	Tazewell	7-3	209	20.9
7.)	Gate City	4-6	175	17.5
8.)	Marion	3-7	149	14.9

 

Looks like the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 7th and 8th seeds are pretty much set. Central/GC game will decide the order of 4-6. We will most likely know the final seeding for all 8 teams after Friday night. Very little can change from week 10 to 11 barring some upsets.

Also, a quick look at Reg C will have Radford  and Appo looking something like this:

1.)	Radford	9-1	252	25.2
2.)	Appomattox	8-2	247	24.7

 

[Union_Fan 2,154]

Week 10 Points

Gave up on the Mount View/Hannan score. Assuming Mount VIew won.

1.)	Ridgeview	7-2	221	24.55556
2.)	Union	7-2	218	24.22222
3.)	Graham	7-2	197	21.88889
4.)	Central	7-2	189	21
5.)	Tazewell	6-3	186	20.66667
6.)	Richlands	5-4	184	20.44444
7.)	Gate City	4-6	168	16.8
8.)	Marion	3-6	131	14.55556
9.)	John Battle	2-7	122	13.55556
10.)	Va High	1-8	121	13.44444
11.)	Lebanon	1-8	109	12.11111
12.)	Lee	0-9	102	11.33333

[Union_Fan 2,154]

Final Projection...

The points are spread out enough so that it will take more than one upset to make a difference. I think this will be the final seedings. I'll look at C this weekend when I get the chance.

1.)	Ridgeview	8-2	256	25.6
2.)	Union	8-2	249	24.9
3.)	Graham	8-2	227	22.7
4.)	Central	8-2	219	21.9
5.)	Richlands	6-4	213	21.3
6.)	Tazewell	7-3	209	20.9
7.)	Gate City	4-6	175	17.5
8.)	Marion	3-7	149	14.9

[goose111874 967]

8 minutes ago, Union_Fan said:

Week 10 Points

Gave up on the Mount View/Hannan score. Assuming Mount VIew won.

1.)	Ridgeview	7-2	221	24.55556
2.)	Union	7-2	218	24.22222
3.)	Graham	7-2	197	21.88889
4.)	Central	7-2	189	21
5.)	Tazewell	6-3	186	20.66667
6.)	Richlands	5-4	184	20.44444
7.)	Gate City	4-6	168	16.8
8.)	Marion	3-6	131	14.55556
9.)	John Battle	2-7	122	13.55556
10.)	Va High	1-8	121	13.44444
11.)	Lebanon	1-8	109	12.11111
12.)	Lee	0-9	102	11.33333

Well I was worried that we were gonna get crushed by Graham in round 2 but Gate City will probably prevent that from happening.  Not sure what's wrong with Union but they look really bad lately

[CzarYakov 70]

22 minutes ago, Union_Fan said:

Week 10 Points

Gave up on the Mount View/Hannan score. Assuming Mount VIew won.

1.)	Ridgeview	7-2	221	24.55556
2.)	Union	7-2	218	24.22222
3.)	Graham	7-2	197	21.88889
4.)	Central	7-2	189	21
5.)	Tazewell	6-3	186	20.66667
6.)	Richlands	5-4	184	20.44444
7.)	Gate City	4-6	168	16.8
8.)	Marion	3-6	131	14.55556
9.)	John Battle	2-7	122	13.55556
10.)	Va High	1-8	121	13.44444
11.)	Lebanon	1-8	109	12.11111
12.)	Lee	0-9	102	11.33333

Just wonder, cause I know the points will work themselves out, did Radford losing to Floyd effect Richlands negatively having them fall to 6th or was that the way it would have went with a central win? 

[BigWinners 1,643]

@Union_Fan, just curious: If Union replaced Letcher with Burton, would they have finished ahead of RV?

 

[UnionBears84 28]

53 minutes ago, goose111874 said:

Well I was worried that we were gonna get crushed by Graham in round 2 but Gate City will probably prevent that from happening.  Not sure what's wrong with Union but they look really bad lately

We are beat down. Physically we are just wore down. These kids played their best ball early in the year and came out on fire in the first half against Ridgeview or they wouldn’t have won that game. After they beat Graham they haven’t played like they’re capable. 

[jarhead24219 440]

Just a thought here, why in the heck would you line up your cover guys 6 yards deep in the end one when Abingdon is at the 2 yard line, and why don’t we throw short and not the homer in ball. I am no coach but everyone knows CJ Jones leads Polier into the hole , a little counter to Jones or a tight end pass right down the middle

[BigWinners 1,643]

Peaking early is never a good thing. It hurt Ridgeview big last year and looks like Union this year. 

[UnionBears84 28]

Teams are stacking 9 in the box and keying on Mason. I don’t blame them. He’s the only thing carrying the team right now. He’s been getting 30 plus carries a game. I hate to be an internet coach but they’re offense is so vanilla. No creativity to it at all. 

[Union_Fan 2,154]

7 hours ago, goose111874 said:

Well I was worried that we were gonna get crushed by Graham in round 2 but Gate City will probably prevent that from happening.  Not sure what's wrong with Union but they look really bad lately

And GC is healthy now. We'll have to worry about the 2 fast kids that didn't play against us in addition to #45 that ran through us.

[Union_Fan 2,154]

6 hours ago, BigWinners said:

@Union_Fan, just curious: If Union replaced Letcher with Burton, would they have finished ahead of RV?

 

Based on the final projections above, no. We would have only gained 4 points.

[Union_Fan 2,154]

7 hours ago, CzarYakov said:

Just wonder, cause I know the points will work themselves out, did Radford losing to Floyd effect Richlands negatively having them fall to 6th or was that the way it would have went with a central win? 

For this week, they would have been tied with Tazewell, but for the final standings they would be 5th either way.

Even if Lebanon were to upset Tazewell, everyone stays right where they are.

[Ol Dawg 59]

6 hours ago, BigWinners said:

Peaking early is never a good thing. It hurt Ridgeview big last year and looks like Union this year. 

I wouldn’t say we peaked early. We played lights out early. Then a couple players (both RBs/LBs) were dinged up.  Then their injuries got worse to the point that some is out for the season and the other is there physically but not able to be himself. Now teams can focus on Polier. He’s still pounding the rock. But we went from a triple threat to a bull in a china shop. 
 

We are singing the same song graham had to sing early in the season. Our just happened at the wrong time. Injuries suck. But it’s part of the game. 
 

On that note, what happens to Ridgeview qb Phillips?  Heard the hill kid playing qb last night. He hurt too. Hope not. 

[Counts 156]

He got his ankle rolled up last week probably could have played but there was no reason to push it in a game that really did not matter better to get healthy for the playoffs 

[coachmorsi 13]

Knights won 38-0.

[Union_Fan 2,154]

Rider points definitely went Appo's way last night. C top 2 is looking like this for the final seeding.

1.)	Appomattox	8-2	250	25
2.)	Radford	8-2	239	23.9

[goose111874 967]

On 11/2/2019 at 2:30 AM, UnionBears84 said:

Teams are stacking 9 in the box and keying on Mason. I don’t blame them. He’s the only thing carrying the team right now. He’s been getting 30 plus carries a game. I hate to be an internet coach but they’re offense is so vanilla. No creativity to it at all. 

I've been saying it for weeks and no one seems to believe me but we really can't do anything else on offense if your not gonna change QBs then we shouldve  tried the 17 offense and went with Polier at QB with Satterfield and Jenkins kids for speed.  May not have worked but why not the passing game in non existent, missing too many wide open throws.