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5 hours ago, UVAObserver said:

This alone burned virtually all the goodwill many Conservatives had for mask mandates.  The government is commanding citizens to wear masks, but turns blind eyes when there are protests and riots for causes that are at the opposite end of the spectrum for what the Conservatives advocate.  Even the New York Times wrote a pretty scathing editorial on that exact point, and Lord knows that publication has never been accused of being Conservative.  
 

Now we have a situation where enough people are pissed off over the mask mandate to where it’s not effective, and the Left’s blind eye toward the lack of masks at protests was likely the fulcrum point.  Not even Trump wearing them now is enough.  Good job, America.

Trump wears that mask like a champ lol. I was busting up laughing when I saw that video of him wearing it because he is the first person I've seen that actually looked badass in one. I figure if he keeps it up for long the media will start whining about how unnecessary masks are. They'll move the goal posts again one way or another. I already see where a few stores have retracted their nationwide mandates on wearing them. Too many people rebelling. Gives me hope. The silent majority forges on.

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7 hours ago, mmqp said:

Trump wears that mask like a champ lol. I was busting up laughing when I saw that video of him wearing it because he is the first person I've seen that actually looked badass in one. I figure if he keeps it up for long the media will start whining about how unnecessary masks are. They'll move the goal posts again one way or another. I already see where a few stores have retracted their nationwide mandates on wearing them. Too many people rebelling. Gives me hope. The silent majority forges on.

He kinda looks like a blonde-headed Budd Dwyer in that picture he tweeted out, and students of obscure Pennsylvania history know that this isn’t a good thing.

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On 7/20/2020 at 8:17 PM, mmqp said:

So let me get this straight. The CDC, WHO, UN, media, democrat politicians and health community as a whole tell us that we cant go to our places of worship, must wear masks, cant go to the gym, cant go to the beach, cant do this, cant do that...but then change their whole narrative to fit their little social justice facade and you're going to sarcastically call me Einstein? Miss me with that.

 

How about this, you and the rest of you leftists acknowledge that there is something very, very wrong with all of these organizations flip flopping the way they did on this. 

 

As far as being upset at me about masks... look around bro, which age group is not required to wear them? Ah yes, young children under the age of 10. Hmm.. which group is most likely to spread their germs around for all of us to pick up? Ah yes, that same age group. So what is the point really? I know how to keep my mouth shut when I go in a store and not sneeze on everything. Can parents ensure the same for their little snotty kids?

Do I need to show you all the studies that show children are by far less likely to spread the virus? It's been posted here many, many times. What does that have to do with anything?

Flip flopping? When has any reputable news organization or, more importantly health care organization, said people don't need to wear masks? Show me sources or admit you're lying. 

 

and btw, it seems pretty damning to your point that the current explosion in cases is NOT in places that have seen weeks and weeks of mass protests like the Pacific northwest of the East coast, but in places like FL, GA, etc.. that have routinely expressed their unwillingness to wear masks. How do you explain that? The darn liberal media, if they didn't report about these positive tests and deaths, we would never have to know and could keep pretending this is about some greater point. It's not. You're playing politics with people's lives and you are either unwilling to too dumb to see it. You're willing to risk spreading a deadly virus because you're mad about stupid statues or protests. Can't you see how insane that is? That you're so entrenched in this whole team sports identity that politics has become that you're willingly open to causing a deadly virus to spread more rapidly to st1ck it to teh l1bs? That's sad dude. I feel bad for you. You are so wrapped up in this hyper-partisan mess that you can't see that you're making things worse, or you can see it but choose to do it anyway. 

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10 hours ago, mmqp said:

Trump wears that mask like a champ lol. I was busting up laughing when I saw that video of him wearing it because he is the first person I've seen that actually looked badass in one. I figure if he keeps it up for long the media will start whining about how unnecessary masks are. They'll move the goal posts again one way or another. I already see where a few stores have retracted their nationwide mandates on wearing them. Too many people rebelling. Gives me hope. The silent majority forges on.

lolololol, why am I wasting my time trying to convince you to show some empathy, you just said Trump looked 'badass' in a mask. lolololol

 

A rich, New York elite that lives on fast food and has never shown an iota of physical fitness, athletic ability, strength or endurance is somehow a badass. JFC. 

There are literally military veteran Republicans that have been shown wearing masks, but somehow as soon as Trump wears one, he's a badass and they're cool. Come on man. 

 

And to your other point in the other post, I did some digging:

https://www.modernhealthcare.com/safety-quality/little-evidence-protests-spread-coronavirus-us

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/06/27/how-much-did-protests/

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/06/24/883017035/what-contact-tracing-may-tell-about-cluster-spread-of-the-coronavirus

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-07-01/experts-see-little-evidence-that-protests-spread-coronavirus

Even the notoriously liberal National Review is unwilling to definitively state protests caused increased spread:

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/protests-may-have-spread-coronavirus-some-cities-admit/

 

the gist: the fact that protests were outdoors (which has proven to be a HUGE factor in spreading the virus, which most people.should know by now) and a large percentage of protesters wore/wear masks have led to at best contributory factors in spreading the virus and by no means a driver in spreading the virus. Public health officials, almost unanimously, agree that the rapid spread in places like Florida and Texas have come from people not wearing masks congregating indoors in places like bars and restaurants, basically incubators for the virus. 

So, in conclusion, if you're gonna be inside and in close contact with others, WEAR A MASK FFS. 

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Are you really sure you want to go 100% all-in on that "wear a mask indoors" spiel? The reason I ask is, this is really going to kill that argument about universal mail-in voting. I mean, all we need to do is wear a mask to go vote in person and stop this push for mail in balloting? Count me in for that bro! Let me guess though... masks will work for everything EXCEPT voting.. kind of like masks are required for everything EXCEPT leftist approved riots and looting.

And yea.. count me shocked that those socialist rags arent saying that the protests and riots caused a spike in cases. Let me dig up those videos where the health care workers are cheering on the rioters and looters. And the video where MSLSD is cheering about the pride parade one day and whining about the Trump rally 20 minutes later. 

And as far as an increase in cases goes.. who cares? I want to see that death rate. And the idea that "not one more death" is ignorance at its finest. 

And while I'll agree that "badass" is a bit much... the dude did graduate from the New York Military Academy. And for 74 years old he looks a lot better than most. Now... do you wish to talk about the shape of your candidate? Does he even remember what day it is? What year it is? I feel bad for Joe really.

 

 

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4 hours ago, UVAObserver said:

He kinda looks like a blonde-headed Budd Dwyer in that picture he tweeted out, and students of obscure Pennsylvania history know that this isn’t a good thing.

I may have overstated "badass".. but it was still hilarious to see him strut in with it on. And I'll stick by my comment about him wearing it like a champ. Meanwhile, Bidens mask photo looked like a stock photo from a nursing home. 

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When this first started in January I immediately started following the money. I know probably most of you know but I will post a little. Bill Gates owns stock in 6 vaccine companies. He has given Fauci a 100million dollars for research through the NIH. 54 researchers have quit the NIH for ties to China to avoid prosecution. Gates has given more money to the WHO outside of the USA. He has given 2.4 billion dollars to the WHO over the last 20 years. Tedros- director of WHO is not a doctor(not an MD but he’s called one) and served on the GATES foundation at one time. Why does Tedros always bend over for China, he is from Ethiopia and was Minister of health at one time. All of Ethiopia’s infrastructure loans are through the communist bank of China and unfortunately Ethiopia has trouble making their payments. The last loan they obtained from China was for a railroad but part of the deal had to include a spur built to the country Djibouti to one of China’s largest military bases. Right before this virus escaped or released, the CCP sunk nearly half a trillion dollars into their largest industries on the mainland. US tariffs have been hitting China hard and 2 of their larger corporations tang-di(spelling)(tire manufacturer) and Sunrise group(soybean) went bankrupt. Australia’s legislature met 1-2 months ago on what to do about their crippled manufacturing base mostly because of the virus and how to prevent China from taking it over. Not mention what China is doing in the spratly islands in the South China Sea. Gates has ties to this virus through chapel hill and wuhan.

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1 hour ago, Widespread_Panic said:

So do you want him to keep the mask on when he's drinking his water? Fauci tested negative the day before the game and he's sitting with his wife and a close friend but don't let facts get in the way. 

If he’s within 6 feet of a close friend, then he’s not following CDC recommendations about wearing masks while unable to social distance.  His lips also weren’t around the water bottle in several photographs.  
 

In addition, as much as he’s decried the resumption of sporting events, Fauci sitting in an abandoned stadium yukking it up with 2 other people justifiably rubs people the wrong way.

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I now know a person who died of COVID 19...or do I?  

He was in early 80s and had survived multiple battles with cancer. He fell at home injuring his head and was taken to the hospital where he suffered another fall. He was admitted and tested positive for COVID 19 and later passed away. He had not been suffering symptoms of COVID 19 prior to his fall at home.

So, his death won't be because of advanced age, natural causes, long-term effects of cancer, or organ failure as a result of the consecutive falls. In the eyes of health officials, he died of COVID 19. Ballad Health will receive a 20% Medicare premium and his death will be counted with the other 148,000+ in the U.S..

 

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7 minutes ago, Liam McPoyle said:

I now know a person who died of COVID 19...or do I?  

He was in early 80s and had survived multiple battles with cancer. He fell at home injuring his head and was taken to the hospital where he suffered another fall. He was admitted and tested positive for COVID 19 and later passed away. He had not been suffering symptoms of COVID 19 prior to his fall at home.

So, his death won't be because of advanced age, natural causes, long-term effects of cancer, or organ failure as a result of the consecutive falls. In the eyes of health officials, he died of COVID 19. Ballad Health will receive a 20% Medicare premium and his death will be counted with the other 148,000+ in the U.S..

 

BINGO!!

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You have to remember, these leftists view politics as a religion and political and public figures as demigods, if not outright gods. So, while Obama is their Christ, a public figure such as Fauci is their John the Baptist. Now, let one of these political or public figures "step out of line" and they're ready to crucify them.

But make no mistake, the ultimate goal of the leftists at this point is to push any and all religions out of the way to be replaced with their boot licking worship of their leftist/socialist government. Right now they're targeting Christianity and Judaism. But, if they fall, do not think for a second that Islam wont be the next to be targeted.

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On 7/25/2020 at 7:03 PM, Liam McPoyle said:

I now know a person who died of COVID 19...or do I?  

He was in early 80s and had survived multiple battles with cancer. He fell at home injuring his head and was taken to the hospital where he suffered another fall. He was admitted and tested positive for COVID 19 and later passed away. He had not been suffering symptoms of COVID 19 prior to his fall at home.

So, his death won't be because of advanced age, natural causes, long-term effects of cancer, or organ failure as a result of the consecutive falls. In the eyes of health officials, he died of COVID 19. Ballad Health will receive a 20% Medicare premium and his death will be counted with the other 148,000+ in the U.S..

 

Section 601(d) of the Social Security Act has been written in such a way that incentivizes listing anything and everything as COVID-19.   I am on a first-name basis with multiple people (plural) who have had either outright fraudulent or false positives of COVID-19 attributed so that health care providers can drain money from the federal government.  This is happening, and you're fooling yourself if you don't believe it.  

 

I know it's virtually impossible in this early stage, but I would love to see how many fewer deaths occurred in 2020 among those 60+ due to strictly heart disease, diabetes, and chronic pulmonary issues (I exclude cancer, because that category will increase as many cancer patients are fearful to leave their homes to receive treatment due to COVID-19, which will inflate the number of deaths in that category).  My point is: most of those who succumb to COVID-19 have already spent 90%+ of their social capital already.  Hence, why nursing homes and other LTCs make up greater than 40% of COVID-19 deaths.  If you're 91 years old, with dementia, and have congestive heart failure...I have some moral reservations about listing that as fully COVID-19 if a person eventually succumbs to it.  It's *technically* correct, but treating that as the same as a 21-year-old who might die from COVID-19 isn't philosophically sound.

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On 7/25/2020 at 10:37 AM, Widespread_Panic said:

So do you want him to keep the mask on when he's drinking his water? Fauci tested negative the day before the game and he's sitting with his wife and a close friend but don't let facts get in the way. 

So did they create a phone thats a water dispenser also?  In all seriousness, I am not concerned with his actions there in general. That being said, its no different than the optics of Northam a couple of months ago.   

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Regardless of mask, I cannot believe the lefties on here arent outraged that they're not six feet apart! Or does that only apply to churches and people trying to enjoy the beach with their family? I have a feeling I know the answer to that.

Anyway, are you ready to wear goggles? That is Faucis new push. I'm sure the ignorant leftists are scrambling to buy up a pair now...

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3 hours ago, mmqp said:

Regardless of mask, I cannot believe the lefties on here arent outraged that they're not six feet apart! Or does that only apply to churches and people trying to enjoy the beach with their family? I have a feeling I know the answer to that.

Anyway, are you ready to wear goggles? That is Faucis new push. I'm sure the ignorant leftists are scrambling to buy up a pair now...

First, masks.  Now, goggles.  What's next and where does it end???  We can't live in bubbles the rest of our lives...

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4 hours ago, GMan said:

First, masks.  Now, goggles.  What's next and where does it end???  We can't live in bubbles the rest of our lives...

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LOL, well it will ALL end abruptly in mid November if the democrats successfully rig the election. "OMG guise, Biden and Obama saved us all!"

But if Trump wins? The individual governors will continue to punish their states until they get voted out or the states supreme courts step up and overrule the mandates. Now, being in Virginia with the sorry SC that we have, we're screwed until the governor election in this scenario.

In the meantime, expect the weak effeminate leftist types to be panicking and telling us that goggles are essential. And you know which ones on here will be pushing it while claiming they know multiple people who have this virus and have died from it.

 

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My guess is at some point the CDC and WHO will claim that being of a certain political party or religious affiliation will make you more likely to infect others with it and declare that that group of people is a health hazard and needs to be kept indoors at ALL times. 

At an even later point they'll single out one race that they'll claim to be a carrier of the virus that, while not deadly to their own race, are a huge threat to other races and virus contracted through them is 100% deadly or something like that. Either way, the push will be for that race to either "apologize" for killing so many people by wearing a patch on their clothes or staying locked down in their homes indefinitely. I dont believe Virginia would get to that point, but Cali? New York State? New Jersey? Yes, absolutely could see that.

 

And while the second part of my post is being somewhat facetious, just remember, both the WHO and CDC claimed that the virus cannot pass during a protest (riot, looting) or pride parade but can pass during any other social gathering. Science? I think not.

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