redtiger 1,740 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 Was anything valuable learned last night? All I saw was Trump is petty and overly aggressive in those situations(knew that already, thats his chosen approach), and Biden looked old and almost frail at times. Both looked ridiculous imo. I would very much like to see Jo Jorgensen get a broader platform but idk that Id want to see her drug into that mess BigWinners 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1inStripes 932 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 Pure poop fest. Neither person was impressive in anyway possible. Democrats will hammer at Trumps stand back and stand by comment. Republicans will hammer at Biden not answering about increasing the size of the Supreme Court. BigWinners 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichlandsAlum 678 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 I really want to vote for Jo Jorgensen, but I can't get past the fact that her running mate is a blithering idiot who can't be taken seriously. Actually thought about contacting her and the national chair of the Libertarian Party (assuming there is such a position) and saying so. I've always said that we ultimately get the government we deserve in America. But it never occurred to me that our system could produce a choice as bad as the one before us. redtiger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield researcher 1,195 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 This so called debate idea will never give us answers to our questions. It is nothing what I learned about debate in speech class. It is just an insult contest. We need to have someone neutral sit down with each candidate SEPARATELY. Ask the pertinent questions. Let them answer but also MAKE THEM ANSWER. Tape the interviews. Play them back to the public. Tape them so one candidate doesn't know how the other answered. redtiger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 It's as if Trump and Biden were competing to see who could do the absolute worst in a debate setting. Trump's strategy should have been to let Biden ramble on and allow his obvious fatigue and ever-increasing mental incompetency to show. Biden's strategy should have been to remain cool and collected; say as little as possible; and bait Trump with the softballs Matthews was giving him. What happened instead was a disgraceful, disgusting display by two men who are unfit for the Presidency. BigWinners, blueinbama and 1inStripes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtiger 1,740 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 22 minutes ago, RichlandsAlum said: I really want to vote for Jo Jorgensen, but I can't get past the fact that her running mate is a blithering idiot who can't be taken seriously. Shes getting my vote, but I REALLY dislike Cohen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtiger 1,740 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, UVAObserver said: It's as if Trump and Biden were competing to see who could do the absolute worst in a debate setting. Trump's strategy should have been to let Biden ramble on and allow his obvious fatigue and ever-increasing mental incompetency to show. Biden's strategy should have been to remain cool and collected; say as little as possible; and bait Trump with the softballs Matthews was giving him. What happened instead was a disgraceful, disgusting display by two men who are unfit for the Presidency. The strategy since '16 should have been "shut up and let the other fool mess up" but Clinton, Trump, nor Biden has figured that out apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueinbama 259 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 24 minutes ago, UVAObserver said: It's as if Trump and Biden were competing to see who could do the absolute worst in a debate setting. Trump's strategy should have been to let Biden ramble on and allow his obvious fatigue and ever-increasing mental incompetency to show. Biden's strategy should have been to remain cool and collected; say as little as possible; and bait Trump with the softballs Matthews was giving him. What happened instead was a disgraceful, disgusting display by two men who are unfit for the Presidency. Hard to disagree...unfortunately we have to choose between the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, blueinbama said: Hard to disagree...unfortunately we have to choose. For the first time in my life, I am eligible for that office. I will most likely vote for myself. blueinbama, redtiger and RichlandsAlum 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtiger 1,740 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, blueinbama said: Hard to disagree...unfortunately we have to choose between the two. you don't have to, you choose to. My candidate isn't going to win, I've accepted that. For me personally I cant sign off on a candidate that I don't believe will do a good job and represent this country well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueinbama 259 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, redtiger said: you don't have to, you choose to. My candidate isn't going to win, I've accepted that. For me personally I cant sign off on a candidate that I don't believe will do a good job and represent this country well True, but I refuse to just throw away my vote on someone who has no chance to win. Mountain Football 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtiger 1,740 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 Is it better to back a winner or vote for someone you believe in? Voting for bad candidates is what has gotten us to this point. For me, im voting for what I believe in, not who I think can win. Maybe im throwing it away, idk but I felt like I wasted my vote in '12 when I voted for someone I didn't believe in, voted for Johnson in '16 and didn't feel that way. Until a 3rd party gets a significant number of votes (double digit percentage) I dont think either party will adjust their current courses - running whoever they want and adopting platforms that are not representative of the majority of US voters. RichlandsAlum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1inStripes 932 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 7 hours ago, UVAObserver said: For the first time in my life, I am eligible for that office. I will most likely vote for myself. That was my process in 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichlandsAlum 678 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 On 9/30/2020 at 10:21 AM, UVAObserver said: For the first time in my life, I am eligible for that office. I will most likely vote for myself. 16 hours ago, 1inStripes said: That was my process in 2016. Just curious about something, 1inStripes. Did you win in 2016? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1inStripes 932 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 I will let you decide. RichlandsAlum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichlandsAlum 678 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 2 hours ago, 1inStripes said: I will let you decide. For some reason your original post made me think of some dialogue from the movie Glory. "I ran away at the age of 12 and ain't ever looked back." "What you been doin' since then?" "Runnin' for President. I ain't been winnin', though." 1inStripes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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