Canes00 434 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 57 minutes ago, Mountain Football said: Gosh I'm glad we are playing football. Isn't this great Not really lol but I’m glad it’s a short season with the Canes being this bad and another good thing is with the attendance being cut down I don’t have to actually watch it Mountain Football, Plywood_King and Gridiron60 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VHSLhelper 571 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 37 minutes ago, BigWinners said: Explain. I don't understand what you're trying to say. If you're gonna take a shot, make it make sense. There's been a few studies that show going for it on 4th & 1 is a good bet to succeed. One Yale study said it had about a 2/3rds success rate. On a QB sneak, it was near 83%. https://sports.sites.yale.edu/success-short-yardage-play-types-fourth-down Irishman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plywood_King 517 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Canes00 said: Not really lol but I’m glad it’s a short season with the Canes being this bad and another good thing is with the attendance being cut down I don’t have to actually watch it Marion would hang half-a-hundred on the team I was expecting them to field, so I'm just enjoying the fact they haven't started the second half with continous clock yet lol Canes00 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unchained 587 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, VHSLhelper said: There's been a few studies that show going for it on 4th & 1 is a good bet to succeed. One Yale study said it had about a 2/3rds success rate. On a QB sneak, it was near 83%. https://sports.sites.yale.edu/success-short-yardage-play-types-fourth-down Also when you go for it and fail on your 11 there's an 87% chance you'll give up points:) Those points were the difference today. JDHoss and EH31 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_bean 1,058 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, Unchained said: Also when you go for it and fail on your 11 there's an 87% chance you'll give up points:) Those points were the difference today. Bottom line a game that close and tight and your defense is performing well, make them drive the field. I would say the exact same thing if we had done that. In fact I have said that over the past few years when we went for it on 4th down on just simply our side of the 50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Sasquatch 1,865 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 hour ago, UVAObserver said: This means more to me than you could ever know. To be even in a discussion with a favorable comparison to such legends as Jim Nelson and Larry Hypes is touching and humbling. It was just my 14th game behind the mic, and I’m always looking and working to get better. Constructive criticism always appreciated! I’m thankful for all the listeners in Bulldog Nation and from all around SWVA for tuning in today. It’ll be one I remember when I’m old and have trouble remembering my kids’ names. And I’m sorry for blowing a few ear drums. My right ear is still ringing, 90 minutes after taking the headset off. Awesome job. You 2 did a great job. I was just as excited!! Deleted Account 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Sasquatch 1,865 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 I recall Graham's coach Williams going for it on 4th and 1 from his own 14 against Union a few years back and not making it. I think that was Grahams first possession in that game. Baffling Irishman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridiron60 2,554 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 4 hours ago, Real Sasquatch said: Are you kidding me?? Wells goes for it on 4th and 1 from his own 12 and doesn't make it. Worst coaching decision of the game, season, maybe century, lol. Real Sasquatch and JDHoss 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Sasquatch 1,865 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, Gridiron60 said: Worst coaching decision of the game, season, maybe century, lol. I couldn't believe it. I was sure he was trying to draw the Bulldogs offsides. I know he has a history of gambling and going on 4th, but that was a huge gamble. Oh well, worked out in the Dogs favor, so not complaining. So glad for Josiah Jordan, Chance Harris, Gavin Nunley, Josh Herndon, Tanner Wimmer, Jayden Taylor and the other seniors. Jordan and Harris both missed this game last year due to injury. The injury bug has hit the dogs hard, really for the past 2 seasons. Im glad they got to play and prove that they could get this win. Couldn't be happier for such a great group of kids. They are truly good kids on and off of the field. Very humble and respectful. Every one of them. Deleted Account and Irishman 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokiebird7 1,416 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Mountain Football said: I have mixed feelings about this whole parade thing. Lol Congratulations to all of T-Town on a great win. Super happy for the whole community They really had a parade? I thought it was a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokiebird7 1,416 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 26 minutes ago, Gridiron60 said: Worst coaching decision of the game, season, maybe century, lol. Don't question a Wells decision lol Irishman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, GMan said: You nailed the call, you could feel the excitement coming through the speakers...hell, even I got excited over Tazewell football today listening to you. You have a brilliant future ahead of you behind the mic. I'm certain that call will be remembered by all Tazewell fans for years to come!! If I can make a Graham lifer excited for Tazewell football, it’s certainly a job well done! I’m out of “thanks” emojis for the day, so I’ll thank you again right here. I’ve said before if I had it to over again, I would have started down this path much sooner! I’m excited for what the future holds behind the mic, and here’s to a few more meaningful calls before this season comes to a close! Irishman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, VHSLhelper said: There's been a few studies that show going for it on 4th & 1 is a good bet to succeed. One Yale study said it had about a 2/3rds success rate. On a QB sneak, it was near 83%. https://sports.sites.yale.edu/success-short-yardage-play-types-fourth-down The real flaw in the decision isn’t with the odds. Statistically, it’s a valid play. It’s that the decision removes every sense of risk-reward calculation. The mental hurdle of Tazewell being unable to score on Richlands was very large and very real. Failure there guarantees that you surrender points and forfeit that mental edge. The risk was far and away not worth the reward. And in a game like that, points mattered in a game-altering way. JDHoss, Bluefield researcher and Irishman 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWinners 1,643 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, VHSLhelper said: There's been a few studies that show going for it on 4th & 1 is a good bet to succeed. One Yale study said it had about a 2/3rds success rate. On a QB sneak, it was near 83%. https://sports.sites.yale.edu/success-short-yardage-play-types-fourth-down I'm a pro-analytics guy. I believe more coaches should go for it on fourth down, especially short yardage, IF you're not on your own 12. It's defensible on your own 30, not your ten. In that study, how many attempts were there on your own 12 in the first half? JDHoss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWinners 1,643 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 Just now, UVAObserver said: The real flaw in the decision isn’t with the odds. Statistically, it’s a valid play. It’s that the decision removes every sense of risk-reward calculation. The mental hurdle of Tazewell being unable to score on Richlands was very large and very real. Failure there guarantees that you surrender points and forfeit that mental edge. The risk was far and away not worth the reward. And in a game like that, points mattered in a game-altering way. That's exactly my point as well. The issue wasn't going for it on fourth down, it was going for it backed up at your own 12 in the second quarter of a low scroing, defensive game, basically giving away three points if you don't get it and in a game this close and low scoring, three points could be the difference and it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Sasquatch 1,865 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 25 minutes ago, Hokiebird7 said: They really had a parade? I thought it was a joke 2 parades. 1 before and 1 after. They love their Bulldogs in Tazewell. Always have, win or lose. I think it is awesome. The community hasn't been able to go to the games and cheer on their kids. This is their way of showing support and it is great. The kids loved it Irishman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Football 1,532 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 38 minutes ago, Hokiebird7 said: They really had a parade? I thought it was a joke Yes they had a parade before the game and after the game. Well I guess you could say it was more of a "send off" before the game. After the game the players walked down main street. Police escort, fire trucks, ambulances, etc. Lots of community support. Irishman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Football 1,532 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, Real Sasquatch said: 2 parades. 1 before and 1 after. They love their Bulldogs in Tazewell. Always have, win or lose. I think it is awesome. The community hasn't been able to go to the games and cheer on their kids. This is their way of showing support and it is great. The kids loved it Sorry I didn't see you had answered him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridiron60 2,554 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, BigWinners said: That's exactly my point as well. The issue wasn't going for it on fourth down, it was going for it backed up at your own 12 in the second quarter of a low scroing, defensive game, basically giving away three points if you don't get it and in a game this close and low scoring, three points could be the difference and it was. #this 🙌🏻 Irishman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHoss 249 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 2 hours ago, VHSLhelper said: There's been a few studies that show going for it on 4th & 1 is a good bet to succeed. One Yale study said it had about a 2/3rds success rate. On a QB sneak, it was near 83%. https://sports.sites.yale.edu/success-short-yardage-play-types-fourth-down As I see now that others have posted, it's more of a risk/reward thing. You make it, you have a fresh set of downs inside your own 20. If you don't make it, you're probably going to give up points. You NEVER go for it from your own 12 unless it's really, really late, you're trailing, and you're out of timeouts or down to your last timeout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtiger 1,740 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 Seems like Union has an escort to the field before every home game and no one cracks on them? They get praised for the awesome community support. Good for Tazewell Gridiron60, Deleted Account, Real Sasquatch and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityofRaven 2,443 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 If I go to work sober for the first time in 10 years this week, can I get a parade on my way home? Mountain Football, Irishman, GMan and 4 others 2 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Sasquatch 1,865 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 14 minutes ago, redtiger said: Seems like Union has an escort to the field before every game and no one cracks on them? They get praised for the awesome community support. Good for Tazewell Good point!! redtiger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH31 2,517 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 6 hours ago, GMan said: You nailed the call, you could feel the excitement coming through the speakers...hell, even I got excited over Tazewell football today listening to you. You have a brilliant future ahead of you behind the mic. I'm certain that call will be remembered by all Tazewell fans for years to come!! https://fb.watch/4djjcmwE1w/ The final call of today's game by Chase Collins on the Tazewell Bulldog Radio Network Liam McPoyle and Deleted Account 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam McPoyle 1,863 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 "As sure as God made kelly green apples, Tazewell's done it!" -Chase Collins, Tazewelll Bulldogs Play-By-Play Announcer on the final play of the game Deleted Account and Gridiron60 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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