sixcat 2,919 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 1 hour ago, EH31 said: They had a freshman RB that scored 4 touchdowns against Galax and a sophomore QB & WR that connected for 3 touchdown passes. Doubt they’re going anywhere for a while. All joking aside, they are as impressive a program as this state has ever witnessed. We will see what happens when Casto retires, supposedly after next season. But they have a wealth of talent. The older Smiley brother gets all of the press but the younger one may be the best player on the team. He was in on seemingly every tackle Saturday whether meeting a back at the line of scrimmage or tackling a receiver 25 yards down field. He was hands down, the best player on the field Saturday! Liam McPoyle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 52 minutes ago, sixcat said: All joking aside, they are as impressive a program as this state has ever witnessed. We will see what happens when Casto retires, supposedly after next season. But they have a wealth of talent. The older Smiley brother gets all of the press but the younger one may be the best player on the team. He was in on seemingly every tackle Saturday whether meeting a back at the line of scrimmage or tackling a receiver 25 yards down field. He was hands down, the best player on the field Saturday! We kinda noticed this same thing in February. Little brother might be a better athlete. sixcat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT FAN 91 119 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 3 hours ago, sixcat said: All joking aside, they are as impressive a program as this state has ever witnessed. We will see what happens when Casto retires, supposedly after next season. But they have a wealth of talent. The older Smiley brother gets all of the press but the younger one may be the best player on the team. He was in on seemingly every tackle Saturday whether meeting a back at the line of scrimmage or tackling a receiver 25 yards down field. He was hands down, the best player on the field Saturday! Barnes blocked him every time he was his side of the field and handled him pretty well, some of the riverheads guys were saying that's because he was holding him but I've went back and watched some of the film and it was just 2 damn good football players going at it. When Barnes was in pass protection against him he didn't get to Picket and if he did it wasn't often, I would have to watch all the film to be certain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,919 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 1 minute ago, MT FAN 91 said: Barnes blocked him every time he was his side of the field and handled him pretty well, some of the riverheads guys were saying that's because he was holding him but I've went back and watched some of the film and it was just 2 damn good football players going at it. When Barnes was in pass protection against him he didn't get to Picket and if he did it wasn't often, I would have to watch all the film to be certain. The whole team did a good job in protection. Riverheads didn't have a single sack. But the younger Smiley kid wasn't tasked with rushing the QB from what I saw. He stopped the run cold and was still able to beat DB's down field to tackle Galax receivers after they caught passes. Pack, McPherson and a coach from East Surry were talking about it after the game as well. That kid don't get the attention his brother gets but he should! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT FAN 91 119 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 12 minutes ago, sixcat said: The whole team did a good job in protection. Riverheads didn't have a single sack. But the younger Smiley kid wasn't tasked with rushing the QB from what I saw. He stopped the run cold and was still able to beat DB's down field to tackle Galax receivers after they caught passes. Pack, McPherson and a coach from East Surry were talking about it after the game as well. That kid don't get the attention his brother gets but he should! Ne doubt he is a beast but in the second half he came off the end and Barnes was meeting him in the backfield. I've watched a lot of the film from Saturday and it was like two trucks hitting back there in the second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT FAN 91 119 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 We are talking about Noah Smiley #26 correct? sixcat and Deleted Account 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam McPoyle 1,863 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 It's bad news for the rest of us when Riverheads has a freshman RB that has been dubbed "The Freak". Cayden Cook-Cash's (6'3" 195 lbs) first varsity TD was a go-ahead TD against Tazewell. In the state-semis, he had 135 yards and 2 TDs. Last Saturday against the Maroon Tide, Cook-Cash carried the ball 9 times for 97 yards and 2 rushing TDs in addition to returning a kickoff for a score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 9 hours ago, Liam McPoyle said: It's bad news for the rest of us when Riverheads has a freshman RB that has been dubbed "The Freak". Cayden Cook-Cash's (6'3" 195 lbs) first varsity TD was a go-ahead TD against Tazewell. In the state-semis, he had 135 yards and 2 TDs. Last Saturday against the Maroon Tide, Cook-Cash carried the ball 9 times for 97 yards and 2 rushing TDs in addition to returning a kickoff for a score. Riverheads may run up 8-10 state titles in a row unless something is done about school districts’ manipulation of ADM figures. sixcat and GMan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimal62 178 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 This could change the landscape of 1A. Would affect alot of teams https://www.timesnews.net/sports/vhsl-committee-proposes-dropping-from-6-classes-to-4/article_e542e0fc-12ad-58c4-ac9d-fb6a176a9ceb.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 36 minutes ago, Optimal62 said: This could change the landscape of 1A. Would affect alot of teams https://www.timesnews.net/sports/vhsl-committee-proposes-dropping-from-6-classes-to-4/article_e542e0fc-12ad-58c4-ac9d-fb6a176a9ceb.html Yeah, that was discussed in a lot of detail last summer. I don’t foresee it fixing this problem. In fact, it likely makes it worse. You’d have schools like Graham forced to play down, which would put them in the same classification as Bland. It may give Riverheads 1-2 new “challengers”, but creates more problems than it solves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,919 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Optimal62 said: This could change the landscape of 1A. Would affect alot of teams https://www.timesnews.net/sports/vhsl-committee-proposes-dropping-from-6-classes-to-4/article_e542e0fc-12ad-58c4-ac9d-fb6a176a9ceb.html The article suggests Graham and Lebanon would drop to Class 1 under the new proposal. "Two current Southwest District and Class 2 schools, Lebanon and Graham, would fall into Class 1 under the proposal." How is that possible? What am I missing? Nevermind. I remember this now. VHSL would count grades 9-11 only, which makes about as much sense as screen doors on a submarine! Why can't they just create a Class 1 for the smallest schools in the state, regardless of the number of schools, and divide everyone else equally into three or four classifications? Well, I know why! Something about VHSL and sensical solutions! Optimal62, Liam McPoyle and Mountain Football 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam McPoyle 1,863 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 Perhaps I'm missing something as well. The statement regarding Graham and Lebanon seems incorrect. The schools listed below would all be Class 2 under the proposal. "Schools with enrollments of 375 or below would be in Class 1; 376-751 in Class 2; 752-1199 in Class 3; and 1,200 and above in Class 4." March 31, 2020 ADM Graham 492 John Marshall 484 Giles 477 Buffalo Gap 476 Fort Chiswell 472 Washington & Lee 468 Lebanon 463 Grayson County 460 Central -- Lunenburg 451 Riverheads 443 Northampton 430 Essex 415 George Wythe - W 410 Patrick Henry -- GS 409 Chilhowie 394 Cumberland 392 Auburn 387 Eastside 383 Rappahannock 382 See accurate figures in subsequent posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,919 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, Liam McPoyle said: Perhaps I'm missing something as well. The statement regarding Graham and Lebanon seems incorrect. The schools listed below would all be Class 2 under the proposal. "Schools with enrollments of 375 or below would be in Class 1; 376-751 in Class 2; 752-1199 in Class 3; and 1,200 and above in Class 4." The proposal would only count grades 9-11. Therefore, Graham would theoretically have 364 based on the ADM figures you provided. That is, of course, dividing the ADM figures by 4 and subtracting that amount from the total ADM. To me, this doesn't help. This would be more problematic for more schools than just the smallest in the state. Liam McPoyle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 Based on ADM figures from March 2020, schools in blue will be dropping classification. Schools in purple are 50 kids or less away from dropping down. That's not a huge number to lose, especially in SWVA. Union has lost over 80 kids since the 2018 ADM. Class 2 may get the worst out of this deal. Terrible solution. School Current Enrollment Revised (9-11) Enrollment Old Class New Class Carroll County 1064 798 3 3 William Byrd 1059 794.25 3 3 I. C. Norcom 1055 791.25 3 3 Lake Taylor 1046 784.5 3 3 Phoebus 1043 782.25 3 3 Heritage -- Lyn 1037 777.75 3 3 Lord Botetourt 1035 776.25 3 3 Lakeland 1035 776.25 3 3 Christiansburg 1007 755.25 3 3 Brentsville District 985 738.75 3 2 James Monroe 984 738 3 2 Spotswood 981 735.75 3 2 Turner Ashby 978 733.5 3 2 Rockbridge County 975 731.25 3 2 New Kent 971 728.25 3 2 Lightridge--proj. 969 726.75 3 2 Cave Spring 967 725.25 3 2 Broadway 967 725.25 3 2 William Monroe 934 700.5 3 2 Brookville 927 695.25 3 2 Staunton River 910 682.5 3 2 Booker T. Washington 889 666.75 3 2 Northside 881 660.75 3 2 Abingdon 877 657.75 3 2 Skyline 871 653.25 3 2 Petersburg 860 645 3 2 Tunstall 847 635.25 3 2 Colonial Heights 839 629.25 3 2 Waynesboro 839 629.25 3 2 George Mason 829 621.75 3 2 Rustburg 812 609 3 2 Warren County 806 604.5 3 2 Hidden Valley 805 603.75 3 2 Goochland 796 597 3 2 Southampton 785 588.75 3 2 Wilson Memorial 781 585.75 3 2 Armstrong 774 580.5 3 2 Staunton 772 579 3 2 Fort Defiance 760 570 3 2 Maggie Walker Gov 749 561.75 3 2 Park View -- SH 746 559.5 3 2 Liberty - Bed 732 549 3 2 Liberty Christian School 696 522 3 2 School Current Enrollment Revised (9-11) Enrollment Old Class New Class Page 569 426.75 2 2 Ridgeview 568 426 2 2 Nelson County 568 426 2 2 Union 568 426 2 2 Gretna 567 425.25 2 2 Buckingham County 556 417 2 2 Martinsville 546 409.5 2 2 Randolph-Henry 539 404.25 2 2 Madison County 537 402.75 2 2 Tazewell 517 387.75 2 2 Windsor 516 387 2 2 Luray 513 384.75 2 2 James River - B 507 380.25 2 2 Bluestone 500 375 2 1 Stonewall Jackson - Q 498 373.5 2 1 Radford 495 371.25 2 1 Amelia County 494 370.5 2 1 Graham 492 369 2 1 Brunswick 487 365.25 2 1 John Marshall 484 363 2 1 Giles 477 357.75 2 1 Liam McPoyle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat 2,919 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 Carroll County has averaged about a 30 kid decline each year for the past four or five years. They could potentially be Class 2 by 2023-2024 if this proposal happens. I'm all for reducing the classifications. I think six is too many. But it has to be done in a reasonable way. Having Graham, Radford and John Marshall in the same classification as Bland, Rye Cove and Castlewood is ridiculous. Tigerman10, Union_Fan, Ryan4VT and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose111874 967 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 Union playing schools with 300 more kids in it seems ridiculous I'd rather it stay as is if that's the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 33 minutes ago, goose111874 said: Union playing schools with 300 more kids in it seems ridiculous I'd rather it stay as is if that's the case 300 if we're lucky. The very bottom of 2A, which we won't be far from, could be playing schools with 480 more kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, Union_Fan said: 300 if we're lucky. The very bottom of 2A, which we won't be far from, could be playing schools with 480 more kids. There’s only 255 total enrollment separating the bottom and top of 2A now. By far the most parity exists in 2A. Union_Fan, sixcat and BigWinners 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1369 1 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 Absolutely great game this past Saturday, I was surprised as most from the outcome of the final score. Good luck to the Seniors from each team, We wish the best for you. Best wishes to the future seniors as well. It was a pleasure for us too host the game. Also a big THANKS TO THE MAROON TIDE for not kneeling during the National Anthem, like the BUMS From West Point and some of their parents did a week earlier. Good luck in the future, we may just meet again! Optimal62 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityofRaven 2,444 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 On 5/4/2021 at 11:37 AM, Union_Fan said: Based on ADM figures from March 2020, schools in blue will be dropping classification. Schools in purple are 50 kids or less away from dropping down. That's not a huge number to lose, especially in SWVA. Union has lost over 80 kids since the 2018 ADM. Class 2 may get the worst out of this deal. Terrible solution. School Current Enrollment Revised (9-11) Enrollment Old Class New Class Carroll County 1064 798 3 3 William Byrd 1059 794.25 3 3 I. C. Norcom 1055 791.25 3 3 Lake Taylor 1046 784.5 3 3 Phoebus 1043 782.25 3 3 Heritage -- Lyn 1037 777.75 3 3 Lord Botetourt 1035 776.25 3 3 Lakeland 1035 776.25 3 3 Christiansburg 1007 755.25 3 3 Brentsville District 985 738.75 3 2 James Monroe 984 738 3 2 Spotswood 981 735.75 3 2 Turner Ashby 978 733.5 3 2 Rockbridge County 975 731.25 3 2 New Kent 971 728.25 3 2 Lightridge--proj. 969 726.75 3 2 Cave Spring 967 725.25 3 2 Broadway 967 725.25 3 2 William Monroe 934 700.5 3 2 Brookville 927 695.25 3 2 Staunton River 910 682.5 3 2 Booker T. Washington 889 666.75 3 2 Northside 881 660.75 3 2 Abingdon 877 657.75 3 2 Skyline 871 653.25 3 2 Petersburg 860 645 3 2 Tunstall 847 635.25 3 2 Colonial Heights 839 629.25 3 2 Waynesboro 839 629.25 3 2 George Mason 829 621.75 3 2 Rustburg 812 609 3 2 Warren County 806 604.5 3 2 Hidden Valley 805 603.75 3 2 Goochland 796 597 3 2 Southampton 785 588.75 3 2 Wilson Memorial 781 585.75 3 2 Armstrong 774 580.5 3 2 Staunton 772 579 3 2 Fort Defiance 760 570 3 2 Maggie Walker Gov 749 561.75 3 2 Park View -- SH 746 559.5 3 2 Liberty - Bed 732 549 3 2 Liberty Christian School 696 522 3 2 School Current Enrollment Revised (9-11) Enrollment Old Class New Class Page 569 426.75 2 2 Ridgeview 568 426 2 2 Nelson County 568 426 2 2 Union 568 426 2 2 Gretna 567 425.25 2 2 Buckingham County 556 417 2 2 Martinsville 546 409.5 2 2 Randolph-Henry 539 404.25 2 2 Madison County 537 402.75 2 2 Tazewell 517 387.75 2 2 Windsor 516 387 2 2 Luray 513 384.75 2 2 James River - B 507 380.25 2 2 Bluestone 500 375 2 1 Stonewall Jackson - Q 498 373.5 2 1 Radford 495 371.25 2 1 Amelia County 494 370.5 2 1 Graham 492 369 2 1 Brunswick 487 365.25 2 1 John Marshall 484 363 2 1 Giles 477 357.75 2 1 I have so many questions! Are the .75 kids missing part of limbs? How about the .5 kids, are they the top or bottom half? .25, are they just a shin? I need answers! Liam McPoyle and Mountain Football 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union_Fan 2,155 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, cityofRaven said: I have so many questions! Are the .75 kids missing part of limbs? How about the .5 kids, are they the top or bottom half? .25, are they just a shin? I need answers! The .75 kids are all a result of tragic shop accidents, too horrid to discuss on an open forum. The. 5 kids are Mer folk. It varies as to whether the fish half is on the top or bottom. Kind of a hodgepodge, really. The .25 ones are just a head in a fish bowl looking thing, like the ones on Futurama. A result of the "Study of Medieval Torture Devices" class being a little more hands on...or, should I say, "hands off" than it should have been. Still not sure why kids keep signing up for that class. Although, Professor Reginald Stumpy did get Teacher of the Year again, so there's that. Clear everything up? Mountain Football, Deleted Account and Liam McPoyle 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose111874 967 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 On 5/4/2021 at 3:41 PM, Union_Fan said: 300 if we're lucky. The very bottom of 2A, which we won't be far from, could be playing schools with 480 more kids. Yeah it's ridiculous. I use to live out east so I'm just glad Hopewell doesn't drop down to 2a. They've grown since I lived out that way, it would've been them or Appomattox every year winning it. Union_Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rabbit 14 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 Riverheads has 5 3A schools on their schedule next season . Hope that satisfies the Haters . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose111874 967 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 3 hours ago, cityofRaven said: I have so many questions! Are the .75 kids missing part of limbs? How about the .5 kids, are they the top or bottom half? .25, are they just a shin? I need answers! Poor Horatio!!! cityofRaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokiebird7 1,416 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, Red Rabbit said: Riverheads has 5 3A schools on their schedule next season . Hope that satisfies the Haters . What will satisfy us is you playing in class you should be in and not fibbing about numbers to beat up on little brothers in playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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