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5 minutes ago, Hokiebird7 said:

So what happened I must have missed this

if you fail out of the test the give you. you must sit X amount of games before stepping back on the field so you play and spring sport and sit those games instead of football season. Or that is how I understand it

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10 hours ago, Jags52 said:

if you fail out of the test the give you. you must sit X amount of games before stepping back on the field so you play and spring sport and sit those games instead of football season. Or that is how I understand it

Disgraceful

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19 hours ago, Gridiron60 said:

I don’t think Bradshaw actually played a soccer game and he didn’t have to. He practiced & didn’t like it is my understanding.  He sat out the football game; when Graham played Union in the playoffs. 

Ah okay I gotcha. That makes way more sense.

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On 7/3/2021 at 3:33 PM, BigWinners said:

Ah okay I gotcha. That makes way more sense.

Yes and then he had to sit out 1 soccer game, it’s a two game suspension 

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3 hours ago, GDUB said:

i agree, if you fail a test during a certain season you should be forced to sit out games for that season. its a bad look for the vhsl.

Is it a VHSL rule or a Tazewell County rule?

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44 minutes ago, EH31 said:

Is it a VHSL rule or a Tazewell County rule?

drug testing is a school system thing it has nothing to do with the VHSL. I know Tazewell and Smyth have drug testing I dont know who else in the area does. Most of the test are carried out by a 3rd party group and they are random. I do not know what the exact punishments are as far as a positive test goes but from what I have heard It kind of like a COVID test you have to have a negative test before you come back. I could be wrong but I feel like I've heard that before. I think Tazewell county also test for nicotine which is a little much IMO. At the end of the day I think they kids should just take the advise of Stephen A Smith and "STAY OFF THE DAMN WEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDD"

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Tazewell County tests for nicotine. 

I like how people from areas that do no testing at all beat their drums about kids and punishment for those that actually do test. Let's be honest how many kids back in the day smoked cigarettes, dipped, chewed, or smoked weed? Several. Just because its been 40 years since some of us were in school doesn't mean we were all in Sunday school acting like little angels. It doesn't matter if its Graham, Richlands, or a Christian school kids are going to be kids.

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30 minutes ago, Mountain Football said:

Tazewell County tests for nicotine. 

I like how people from areas that do no testing at all beat their drums about kids and punishment for those that actually do test. Let's be honest how many kids back in the day smoked cigarettes, dipped, chewed, or smoked weed? Several. Just because its been 40 years since some of us were in school doesn't mean we were all in Sunday school acting like little angels. It doesn't matter if its Graham, Richlands, or a Christian school kids are going to be kids.

I honestly think the nicotine is complete BS. Especially when the age for tobacco use to be 18 and a high school senior could be of age and still get popped for a drug test even though its legal. But if they rules are such that you letting your team down for partaking in tobacco then you got the rest of your life to do that or just dont do it in season. It going to happen I dont think anyone thinks it doesnt but if I was the head of a program and would mention that every day just to make sure the kids know what they are risking. I also dont think weed or anything harder than that has any place in high school sports I know that a hot take for some people but thats just how I feel about that situation 

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2 hours ago, Mountain Football said:

Tazewell County tests for nicotine. 

I like how people from areas that do no testing at all beat their drums about kids and punishment for those that actually do test. Let's be honest how many kids back in the day smoked cigarettes, dipped, chewed, or smoked weed? Several. Just because its been 40 years since some of us were in school doesn't mean we were all in Sunday school acting like little angels. It doesn't matter if its Graham, Richlands, or a Christian school kids are going to be kids.

This website is the pinnacle for remembering things the way they never were.  I played baseball around the turn of the millennium, and I was one of 4 players on the team that DIDN’T dip or chew.

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2 hours ago, Jags52 said:

drug testing is a school system thing it has nothing to do with the VHSL. I know Tazewell and Smyth have drug testing I dont know who else in the area does. Most of the test are carried out by a 3rd party group and they are random. I do not know what the exact punishments are as far as a positive test goes but from what I have heard It kind of like a COVID test you have to have a negative test before you come back. I could be wrong but I feel like I've heard that before. I think Tazewell county also test for nicotine which is a little much IMO. At the end of the day I think they kids should just take the advise of Stephen A Smith and "STAY OFF THE DAMN WEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDD"

"random".  Lmao.

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3 hours ago, Mountain Football said:

Tazewell County tests for nicotine. 

I like how people from areas that do no testing at all beat their drums about kids and punishment for those that actually do test. Let's be honest how many kids back in the day smoked cigarettes, dipped, chewed, or smoked weed? Several. Just because its been 40 years since some of us were in school doesn't mean we were all in Sunday school acting like little angels. It doesn't matter if its Graham, Richlands, or a Christian school kids are going to be kids.

Who s pretending otherwise? The bullshit comes in when kids start "playing" other sports to avoid a punishment. It's ridiculous to test HS kids and not test for PEDs, but I don't think they should be tested at all. A waste of money that would be spent better elsewhere. 

 

But, if you know the rules, have been made aware of them, can't figure out a way to beat the test and get caught, picking up a new sport just to avoid punishment is lame. That makes it all a farce. Just stop testing. 

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1 hour ago, BigWinners said:

A waste of money that would be spent better elsewhere. 

 

 

My thoughts exactly. If they are going to test then it should be a vhsl thing and not a county by county basis. Someone with more knowledge of the testing may be able to answer if Tazewell County tests for PEDs or not. From my understanding and I may be completely wrong on this. In Tazewell County it seems the tests are "random" and they are conducted towards the end of the season. Normally playoff time. So if Student A fails the test and his/her team doesn't make the playoffs then Student A elects to play Underwater Basket Weaving so they don't have to sit out their preferred sport. I totally understand that's skirting the rules. 

 

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19 minutes ago, Mountain Football said:

My thoughts exactly. If they are going to test then it should be a vhsl thing and not a county by county basis. Someone with more knowledge of the testing may be able to answer if Tazewell County tests for PEDs or not. From my understanding and I may be completely wrong on this. In Tazewell County it seems the tests are "random" and they are conducted towards the end of the season. Normally playoff time. So if Student A fails the test and his/her team doesn't make the playoffs then Student A elects to play Underwater Basket Weaving so they don't have to sit out their preferred sport. I totally understand that's skirting the rules. 

 

Agreed. If it's not a VHSL rule, then Tazwell County is just creating problems out of thin air. They seem, to me, to be trying to have their cake and eat it too by testing these kids for stuff like bud or nicotine but allowing them to skirt around the rules by not mandating they miss all games in the sport which they were tested. It's ridiculous to me to test HS kids on a random basis anyway, it's costly when there are MUCH better ways to spend that money, it's a competitive disadvantage and I'm not sure I would like a school system drug testing my kids for privacy reasons. These aren't grown men, these are teenagers who should not be treated as professional athletes. If they get arrested, suspend them. Fail a class, suspend them. Get into a fight or trouble in school, suspend them. But drug testing randomly just leaves a bad taste in my mouth for some reason. 

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19 hours ago, BigWinners said:

Agreed. If it's not a VHSL rule, then Tazwell County is just creating problems out of thin air. They seem, to me, to be trying to have their cake and eat it too by testing these kids for stuff like bud or nicotine but allowing them to skirt around the rules by not mandating they miss all games in the sport which they were tested.

If you are ejected for in a game that ends your season, you can serve your suspension in another sport, so that should be the case for this as well IMO.  At E&H a DE was ejected in their last game in 98.  He was on the baseball team for a short period of time in the springs so he wouldn't miss any time in the fall of 99.

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31 minutes ago, 1inStripes said:

If you are ejected for in a game that ends your season, you can serve your suspension in another sport, so that should be the case for this as well IMO.  At E&H a DE was ejected in their last game in 98.  He was on the baseball team for a short period of time in the springs so he wouldn't miss any time in the fall of 99.

Stupid rule IMO

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13 hours ago, trublue said:
 
The 2021 H.S. football season begins in 8 weeks. Here's a primer with offseason news & notes around the state:

Completely useless because they ignore out of state games.

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