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47 minutes ago, Tigerman10 said:

It is not an approved treatment-it is under evaluation.  The FDA also evaluated hydroxicholorquine in the same manner and determined it is not effective.  

Is Ivermectin listed on the NIH website as a treatment for Covid 19?

Arguing that anyone that even suggested the use of Ivermectin was a tin foil hat wearing, horse paste eating imbecile is an incorrect assessment, based on the fact that the NIH is giving Ivermectin serious consideration as a treatment. It is hard to admit, but it is reality. If you weren't one of those who did so, good for you, but for those that did, this makes them look like tools.

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4 hours ago, bucfan64 said:

Is Ivermectin listed on the NIH website as a treatment for Covid 19?

Arguing that anyone that even suggested the use of Ivermectin was a tin foil hat wearing, horse paste eating imbecile is an incorrect assessment, based on the fact that the NIH is giving Ivermectin serious consideration as a treatment. It is hard to admit, but it is reality. If you weren't one of those who did so, good for you, but for those that did, this makes them look like tools.

How bout we stick to football?

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4 hours ago, bucfan64 said:

Is Ivermectin listed on the NIH website as a treatment for Covid 19?

Arguing that anyone that even suggested the use of Ivermectin was a tin foil hat wearing, horse paste eating imbecile is an incorrect assessment, based on the fact that the NIH is giving Ivermectin serious consideration as a treatment. It is hard to admit, but it is reality. If you weren't one of those who did so, good for you, but for those that did, this makes them look like tools.

Or, you know, you can get the f***ing shot that’s (1) free, (2) not designed to treat parasites in farm animals, and (3) will cut your risk of death by 98+%.  That beats any alleged benefit at eating horse worm paste.

 

Normally, I wouldn’t reply to this sheer stupidity, but I’m tired to seeing my friends die.

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38 minutes ago, UVAObserver said:

Or, you know, you can get the f***ing shot that’s (1) free, (2) not designed to treat parasites in farm animals, and (3) will cut your risk of death by 98+%.  That beats any alleged benefit at eating horse worm paste.

 

Normally, I wouldn’t reply to this sheer stupidity, but I’m tired to seeing my friends die.

I do like your way better

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On 10/14/2021 at 2:54 PM, UVAObserver said:

Or, you know, you can get the f***ing shot that’s (1) free, (2) not designed to treat parasites in farm animals, and (3) will cut your risk of death by 98+%.  That beats any alleged benefit at eating horse worm paste.

 

Normally, I wouldn’t reply to this sheer stupidity, but I’m tired to seeing my friends die.

Normally I wouldn't argue with an idiot but you leave me no choice. 

Sheer Stupidity is calling Dr. Prescribed Ivermectin, horse de-wormer, a person of your intellect, should not be so quick to accept MSM talking points, from self proclaimed experts Don Lemon and Rachel Maddow.

Do not try to divert this argument and pretend that it is about my not supporting vaccinations, that is not what this about and you know it. It is about your inability to accept the fact that some people are skeptical about the vaccine and that alternative treatments should not be mocked. 

I don't recall ever saying that I had not been vaccinated, (I am btw) funny how you just ASSume things, but then again, I wouldn't expect anything less from the most pompous A** on the message board. 

I personally know a lot of people who have not been vaccinated, none of which are dead. Shouldn't they all be dead by now? (PER YOUR THEORY)

The very fact that you keep quoting the "horse paste, horse de-wormer," rhetoric is very telling, perhaps you should back off of the Daily Maddow and the CNN and start thinking for yourself. 

BTW, Dr. Prescribed Ivermectin IS NOT Horse De-Wormer, CNN has deliberately described Ivermectin as Veterinary Medicine and you swallowed it HOOK LINE AND SINKER!

FYI, just because they tell you the Emperor is wearing clothes, doesn't mean he is.

 

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2 hours ago, bucfan64 said:

Normally I wouldn't argue with an idiot but you leave me no choice. 

Sheer Stupidity is calling Dr. Prescribed Ivermectin, horse de-wormer, a person of your intellect, should not be so quick to accept MSM talking points, from self proclaimed experts Don Lemon and Rachel Maddow.

Do not try to divert this argument and pretend that it is about my not supporting vaccinations, that is not what this about and you know it. It is about your inability to accept the fact that some people are skeptical about the vaccine and that alternative treatments should not be mocked. 

I don't recall ever saying that I had not been vaccinated, (I am btw) funny how you just ASSume things, but then again, I wouldn't expect anything less from the most pompous A** on the message board. 

I personally know a lot of people who have not been vaccinated, none of which are dead. Shouldn't they all be dead by now? (PER YOUR THEORY)

The very fact that you keep quoting the "horse paste, horse de-wormer," rhetoric is very telling, perhaps you should back off of the Daily Maddow and the CNN and start thinking for yourself. 

BTW, Dr. Prescribed Ivermectin IS NOT Horse De-Wormer, CNN has deliberately described Ivermectin as Veterinary Medicine and you swallowed it HOOK LINE AND SINKER!

FYI, just because they tell you the Emperor is wearing clothes, doesn't mean he is.

 

 

 

CNN has deliberately described Ivermectin as Veterinary Medicine

Know why? BECAUSE IT IS !!!!!!!

DO NOT TAKE IVERMECTIN PRODUCTS INTENDED FOR ANIMAL USE

https://www.drugs.com/ivermectin.html

 

And I don't usually do this, but this time, I will... you LIED!!!!

Unless you're splitting hairs by using the 'since he's already died, I don't know him anymore' train of thought.

Or the 'no one has actually died from it' lie.

 

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1 minute ago, VHSLhelper said:

 

 

CNN has deliberately described Ivermectin as Veterinary Medicine

Know why? BECAUSE IT IS !!!!!!!

DO NOT TAKE IVERMECTIN PRODUCTS INTENDED FOR ANIMAL USE

https://www.drugs.com/ivermectin.html

 

And I don't usually do this, but this time, I will... you LIED!!!!

Unless you're splitting hairs by using the 'since he's already died, I don't know him anymore' train of thought.

 

 

There are lots of products / meds that are used in animals and humans for the same reason and for different reasons. Insulin is one. They just vary the concentration between human and animal. Ivermectin is another. Is it horse de-wormer? Yes. Does it have other useful purposes in humans? Yes. The part that is troubling to me is that someone is controlling the media to the point that whenever an alternative or proactive treatment is showing positive treatment to Covid the Liberal slanted media (perhaps on orders from above) immediately describes in such a negative way and pathetically distorts facts. Then they have to back off when several months later the treatment that they attacked is actually approved as one way to help either prevent or lessons the effects of Covid. It just smells as if they are trying to push that the one and only way to attack covid is thru the vaccine and all others are some kind of voodoo. 

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On 10/13/2021 at 10:17 PM, bucfan64 said:

Where were you when the National Institute of Health quietly admitted that Ivermectin is an effective treatment for Covid?

I'll leave this right here.

 

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/tables/table-2e/

https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/08000/ivermectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx

This was shared with me by a relative who is an RN. She was sent the article by a doctor at the VA. In addition, I know many people (personally) not TV folks who were prescribed this by local physicians  at the onset of Covid, none of them ended up hospitalized. I am vaccinated but I also believe others have to right to decide whether the vaccine is right for them & doctors should be free to treat their patients with Covid the way they think is best. I absolutely agree there should be a bigger focus on therapeutics because vaccinated and unvaccinated folks are contracting Covid.  

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27 minutes ago, Gridiron60 said:

https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/08000/ivermectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx

This was shared with me by a relative who is an RN. She was sent the article by a doctor at the VA. In addition, I know many people (personally) not TV folks who were prescribed this by local physicians  at the onset of Covid, none of them ended up hospitalized. I am vaccinated but I also believe others have to right to decide whether the vaccine is right for them & doctors should be free to treat their patients with Covid the way they think is best. I absolutely agree there should be a bigger focus on therapeutics because vaccinated and unvaccinated folks are contracting Covid.  

A few things:

 

(1) Though nurses serve a critical and under-appreciated function, they are neither epidemiologists nor physicians.  The job functions are interdisciplinary, not equal.  Frankly, a sizable minority of nurses have done some harm by using their standing to prescribe treatment, which is not their job.  Equally, my wife, who works with numbers, should not be giving corporate tax advice.  It’s a different field.

 

(2) Therapeutics are fine and dandy, but preventative measures should always, ALWAYS be sought if at all possible.  There’s significantly reduced chance of even getting to “at the onset of COVID” with the vaccine, much less praying that horse worm paste keeps you on this planet.  If someone wants to eat horse worm paste after contracting a breakthrough infection, YOLO I guess.

 

(3) The whole “personal choice” dogma stops when it affects others’ capabilities of receiving medical treatment for their own conditions.  And that absolutely has happened.  I can’t get my elbow scoped so that I can bowl without pain because 100% of resources are dedicated to COVID-19, something that the vaccine keeps from happening at an 89% clip.  
 

We’re cool, but I just want to clarify a few things.  Good luck tonight!

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20 minutes ago, UVAObserver said:

A few things:

 

(1) Though nurses serve a critical and under-appreciated function, they are neither epidemiologists nor physicians.  The job functions are interdisciplinary, not equal.  Frankly, a sizable minority of nurses have done some harm by using their standing to prescribe treatment, which is not their job.  Equally, my wife, who works with numbers, should not be giving corporate tax advice.  It’s a different field.

 

(2) Therapeutics are fine and dandy, but preventative measures should always, ALWAYS be sought if at all possible.  There’s significantly reduced chance of even getting to “at the onset of COVID” with the vaccine, much less praying that horse worm paste keeps you on this planet.  If someone wants to eat horse worm paste after contracting a breakthrough infection, YOLO I guess.

 

(3) The whole “personal choice” dogma stops when it affects others’ capabilities of receiving medical treatment for their own conditions.  And that absolutely has happened.  I can’t get my elbow scoped so that I can bowl without pain because 100% of resources are dedicated to COVID-19, something that the vaccine keeps from happening at an 89% clip.  
 

We’re cool, but I just want to clarify a few things.  Good luck tonight!

so you are saying there should be no personal choice? hmm are you in the medical field??

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2 hours ago, Bluefield researcher said:

There are lots of products / meds that are used in animals and humans for the same reason and for different reasons. Insulin is one. They just vary the concentration between human and animal. Ivermectin is another. Is it horse de-wormer? Yes. Does it have other useful purposes in humans? Yes. The part that is troubling to me is that someone is controlling the media to the point that whenever an alternative or proactive treatment is showing positive treatment to Covid the Liberal slanted media (perhaps on orders from above) immediately describes in such a negative way and pathetically distorts facts. Then they have to back off when several months later the treatment that they attacked is actually approved as one way to help either prevent or lessons the effects of Covid. It just smells as if they are trying to push that the one and only way to attack covid is thru the vaccine and all others are some kind of voodoo. 

Or, people are so foolish and contrarian and desperate to go “against the grain” that they are easily swayed by grifters who have no clue what in the hell they are talking about but act like they do. The exact same thing you posted above was said about hydroxychloroquine which has since been proven to be totally ineffective against Covid.  The exact same grifters and snake oil salesmen/politicians who were pushing HCQ are now pushing ivermectin. It’s almost as if they have a monetary interest in grifting and outrage porn against the LIBRUL ELiTes whereas actual scientists and medical experts pushing the vaccine are….experts in their field who are working to combat a pandemic.
 

If you want to be mad at big pharma, then get pissed that they put 15 doses in one vial to make sure more gets purchased…not that they developed a vaccine that eliminates 99% of Covid deaths. 
 

I swear some of you would light yourself on fire if Trumpworld media quacks told you to do it. And then with your charred, burnt fingers you would post on here that “you know many close personal friends who have lit themselves on fire and it worked for them” or “I was exercising my freedom of choice by immolating myself, and I won’t be intimidated into following the crowd by the liberal media.” Or you might be like our friendly neighborhood conspiracy theorist radio host and state that “burning alive is an effective Covid treatment because it KILLS the virus-once you are dead the virus is no longer in a host so it DIES-THIS IS A FACT YOU CANT ARGUE AGAINST IT OR ELSE YOU ARE AN IDIOT” 
 

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2 hours ago, Jollay, living rent free said:

so you are saying there should be no personal choice? hmm are you in the medical field??

No, he just knows everything and believes that his view supersedes that of all others.

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35 minutes ago, Tigerman10 said:

 Or you might be like our friendly neighborhood conspiracy theorist radio host and state that “burning alive is an effective Covid treatment because it KILLS the virus-once you are dead the virus is no longer in a host so it DIES-THIS IS A FACT YOU CANT ARGUE AGAINST IT OR ELSE YOU ARE AN IDIOT” 
 

Or you might be like our friendly neighborhood puppet who just cant accept the fact that someone had the balls to state the obvious  1. Some people are skeptical of the vaccine, 2. That folks who are taking Ivermectin arent wackos and shouldn't be treated as such.

According to you and CNNOBSERVER anyone that even thinks about going against the MSM narrative is a conspiracy nut or some kind of genocidal maniac or Trump disciple. 

What is wrong with the 2 facts that I posited

If you cannot agree that there are reasons for people to be skeptical of the Vaccine, you are a tool.

The fact that you have the ego to mock people that have been prescribed ivermectin as well as the medical professionals that wrote those prescriptions tells me that you are a shill for the the narrative. 

God forbid anyone say something that makes sense.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, bucfan64 said:

Or you might be like our friendly neighborhood puppet who just cant accept the fact that someone had the balls to state the obvious  1. Some people are skeptical of the vaccine, 2. That folks who are taking Ivermectin arent wackos and shouldn't be treated as such.

According to you and CNNOBSERVER anyone that even thinks about going against the MSM narrative is a conspiracy nut or some kind of genocidal maniac or Trump disciple. 

What is wrong with the 2 facts that I posited

If you cannot agree that there are reasons for people to be skeptical of the Vaccine, you are a tool.

The fact that you have the ego to mock people that have been prescribed ivermectin as well as the medical professionals that wrote those prescriptions tells me that you are a shill for the the narrative. 

God forbid anyone say something that makes sense.

 

 

Were the folks taking Hydroxychloroquine wackos? No-they were misinformed by grifters and amplifiers of grifters like you. It’s sad to read about the people who die because they trust these tent preachers and snake oil salesmen who make money and influence off of their ignorance. The people who die are the true believers, meanwhile the real snakes are the ones who are vaccinated and yet claim it’s the work of the media/Devil liberals/big pharmaceutical in order to sow distrust.

 

You don’t know the first thing about medicine, infectious diseases or anything of the like…and neither do I. Yet I am depending on medical experts who have devoted a lifetime to their studies and you are simply a contrarian hack who gets such a charge out of having people listen to you and your rants that you misinform and cite con artists looking to make a quick buck just so you can be “the voice.”

Ironic-seeing as you are truly “The Voice” of this forum-the opinionated biased rants of an ignorant fool that people read and react to solely for entertainment. 

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