PowerPoint Standings Class 1/2 Reg C/D 9-21-2021

[Union_Fan 2,154]

I decided to attempt to keep track of Class 1/2 on the west side. Probably should have picked a different year! haha Trying to keep track of all the ppd/ccd games has been nuts. Thanks to @VHSLhelper for his "moves" thread! Also, due to the amount of teams playing private schools and way out of their region, more teams to keep track of. Don't shoot me if these aren't 100% accurate, I'm sure I've missed some. If you see a mistake, let me know.

D2...

01.)	Graham	3-0	62	20.66667
02.)	Ridgeview	3-0	60	20
03.)	Va High	3-0	60	20
04.)	Central-Wise	2-2	62	15.5
05.)	Union	2-1	45	15
06.)	Tazewell	1-2	40	13.33333
07.)	Richlands	1-2	39	13
08.)	Gate City	1-2	36	12
09.)	Marion	1-3	44	11
10.)	John Battle	0-3	28	9.333333
11.)	Lee	0-2	16	8

D1...

01.) Twin Valley 3-0 58 19.33333 02.) Chilhowie 3-0 56 18.66667 03.) Holston 3-0 54 18 04.) Rural Retreat 2-0 32 16 05.) Grundy 1-1 31 15.5 06.) Twin Springs 2-1 45 15 07.) Eastside 2-1 44 14.66667 08.) Pat Henry-GS 2-1 43 14.33333 09.) Honaker 2-1 38 12.66667 10.) Thomas Walker 2-2 46 11.5 11.) Northwood 1-3 36 9 12.) J.I. Burton 0-3 24 8 13.) Castlewood 0-3 18 6 14.) Lebanon 0-3 18 6 15.) Rye Cove 0-3 17 5.666667 16.) Hurley 0-2 10 5

C2...

01.)	Glenvar	3-1	80	20
02.)	Appomattox	2-1	57	19
03.)	Floyd Co	3-1	69	17.25
04.)	Radford	3-1	69	17.25
05.)	Martinsville	2-1	49	17.25
06.)	James River	2-1	48	16
07.)	Gretna	1-2	45	15
08.)	Chatham	1-1	27	13.5
09.)	Patrick Co	1-2	38	12.66667
10.)	Nelson Co	1-2	32	10.66667
11.)	Dan River	0-4	37	9.25
12.)	Alleghany	0-2	17	8.5

C1...

01.)	Galax	3-1	75	18.75
02.)	Giles	3-1	69	17.25
03.)	Bland Co	2-1	40	13.33333
04.)	Covington	2-2	52	13
05.)	George Wythe	2-2	52	13
06.)	Narrows	2-2	50	12.5
07.)	Grayson Co	1-2	34	11.33333
08.)	Craig Co	1-1	22	11
09.)	Parry McCluer	0-3	26	8.666667
10.)	Fort Chiswell	0-4	30	7.5
11.)	East Mont	0-2	13	6.5
12.)	Bath Co	0-1	6	6
13.)	Auburn	0-2	11	5.5

Edited September 21, 2021 by Union_Fan
Removed Chilhowie/Lebanon game.

[FoxTrot 180]

18 minutes ago, Union_Fan said:

I decided to attempt to keep track of Class 1/2 on the west side. Probably should have picked a different year! haha Trying to keep track of all the ppd/ccd games has been nuts. Thanks to @VHSLhelper for his "moves" thread! Also, due to the amount of teams playing private schools and way out of their region, more teams to keep track of. Don't shoot me if these aren't 100% accurate, I'm sure I've missed some. If you see a mistake, let me know.

D2...

01.)	Graham	3-0	62	20.66667
02.)	Ridgeview	3-0	60	20
03.)	Va High	3-0	60	20
04.)	Central-Wise	2-2	62	15.5
05.)	Union	2-1	45	15
06.)	Tazewell	1-2	40	13.33333
07.)	Richlands	1-2	39	13
08.)	Gate City	1-2	36	12
09.)	Marion	1-3	45	11.25
10.)	John Battle	0-3	28	9.333333
11.)	Lee	0-2	16	8

D1...

01.)	Chilhowie	4-0	72	18
02.)	Holston	3-0	54	18
03.)	Rural Retreat	2-0	32	16
04.)	Grundy	1-1	31	15.5
05.)	Twin Springs	2-1	45	15
06.)	Twin Valley	2-1	45	15
07.)	Thomas Walker	3-1	59	14.75
08.)	Eastside	2-1	44	14.66667
09.)	Pat Henry-GS	2-1	43	14.33333
10.)	Honaker	2-1	38	12.66667
11.)	Northwood	1-3	35	8.75
12.)	J.I. Burton	0-3	25	8.333333
13.)	Lebanon	0-4	26	6.5
14.)	Castlewood	0-3	19	6.333333
15.)	Rye Cove	0-3	18	6
16.)	Hurley	0-2	10	5

C2...

01.)	Glenvar	3-1	80	20
02.)	Appomattox	2-1	57	19
03.)	Floyd Co	3-1	69	17.25
04.)	Radford	3-1	69	17.25
05.)	Martinsville	2-1	49	17.25
06.)	James River	2-1	48	16
07.)	Gretna	1-2	45	15
08.)	Chatham	1-1	27	13.5
09.)	Patrick Co	1-2	38	12.66667
10.)	Nelson Co	1-2	32	10.66667
11.)	Dan River	0-4	37	9.25
12.)	Alleghany	0-2	17	8.5

C1...

01.)	Galax	3-1	75	18.75
02.)	Giles	3-1	69	17.25
03.)	Bland Co	2-1	40	13.33333
04.)	Covington	2-2	52	13
05.)	George Wythe	2-2	52	13
06.)	Narrows	2-2	51	12.75
07.)	Grayson Co	1-2	34	11.33333
08.)	Craig Co	1-1	22	11
09.)	Parry McCluer	0-3	26	8.666667
10.)	Fort Chiswell	0-4	30	7.5
11.)	East Mont	0-2	13	6.5
12.)	Bath Co	0-1	6	6
13.)	Auburn	0-2	11	5.5

Are you sure they are going by power points this year?  I know Region D 2 has discussed having "Top 4" from each district, as of last week.  I don't know if that is definite, but principals and athletic directors did discuss.

[stu_bean 1,058]

Just now, FoxTrot said:

Are you sure they are going by power points this year?  I know Region D 2 has discussed having "Top 4" from each district, as of last week.  I don't know if that is definite, but principals and athletic directors did discuss.

Didn't we learn anything from the spring season what confusion and chaos that brings???

[FoxTrot 180]

1 minute ago, stu_bean said:

Didn't we learn anything from the spring season what confusion and chaos that brings???

I know it was discussed, and is a possibility!  I agree, would much rather have the points!  In Region D1, surprised at Patrick Henry at 9 - they may be the best team in that Region.  Looking forward to seeing how it plays out.

[Union_Fan 2,154]

10 minutes ago, FoxTrot said:

Are you sure they are going by power points this year?  I know Region D 2 has discussed having "Top 4" from each district, as of last week.  I don't know if that is definite, but principals and athletic directors did discuss.

I have no clue what they are doing in Reg D. I kind of like the "Top 4", but don't think it's fair if districts aren't even. However, regardless of what Reg D does, if semifinals are determined by VHSL like they have in the past, powerpoints will determine hosting site.

[MT FAN 91 119]

https://www.vhsl.org/football/

[MT FAN 91 119]

Football_2021_Playoff_Format (1).pdf

[VHSLhelper 571]

That and a quarter... errr... a buck, will getcha a cup of coffee.

 

[Gridiron60 2,550]

Since some of you are more knowledgeable about powerpoints than myself. If a team is leading in powerpoints or close to the top and has a  game canceled by their opponent due to Covid protocol, how much of an impact will that have ultimately if they can’t find a replacement game or can’t make up the original game ? I only ask because of GW game getting canceled next week. Hopefully, we find a replacement game. 

[Pioneer 69]

Lebanon is actually 0-3, not 0-4. 

[redtiger 1,740]

4 minutes ago, Gridiron60 said:

Since some of you are more knowledgeable about powerpoints than myself. If a team is leading in powerpoints or close to the top and has a  game canceled by their opponent due to Covid protocol, how much of an impact will that have ultimately if they can’t find a replacement game or can’t make up the original game ? I only ask because of GW game getting canceled next week. Hopefully, we find a replacement game. 

Well not having that games means Graham would divide by 9 instead of 10, but not having that game also limits their potential to earn points.  The system is designed to balance that out to an extent.

Grundy picking up Blacksburg and winning was very beneficial. Central picking up Christiansburg and losing probably didn't help them as much, probably would have been better off with 9 games and thus dividing by 9.

The way I hear it the deal within Region 2D was basically unless everyone gets 10 games in the region will take top 4 from each district.  I've not seen that anywhere official, just the same story that was told by 2 different coaches.

[Union_Fan 2,154]

13 minutes ago, Pioneer said:

Lebanon is actually 0-3, not 0-4. 

You are correct. For some reason I thought they played Chilhowie, and gave Chilhowie the win. I updated the points to reflect that.

[appyvol 23]

• TW is 2-2, not 3-1. Lost to Twin Valley and Cumberland Gap, Beat Castlewood and RC. 

[Union_Fan 2,154]

3 minutes ago, appyvol said:

• TW is 2-2, not 3-1. Lost to Twin Valley and Cumberland Gap, Beat Castlewood and RC. 

Good catch! Gave TW the win over TV. It's changed.

[VHSLhelper 571]

21 minutes ago, Gridiron60 said:

Since some of you are more knowledgeable about powerpoints than myself. If a team is leading in powerpoints or close to the top and has a  game canceled by their opponent due to Covid protocol, how much of an impact will that have ultimately if they can’t find a replacement game or can’t make up the original game ? I only ask because of GW game getting canceled next week. Hopefully, we find a replacement game. 

First, it depends on if it's a "no contest" or a FFT.

Then it depends on how many wins the other team has.

 

[EH31 2,514]

Almost positive that region D is taking top 4 from each district. 

[Deleted Account 5,203]

23 minutes ago, EH31 said:

Almost positive that region D is taking top 4 from each district. 

Sources indicate this is a good possibility.

[Pioneer 69]

15 hours ago, Union_Fan said:

You are correct. For some reason I thought they played Chilhowie, and gave Chilhowie the win. I updated the points to reflect that.

They play each other this Friday. Based on what has transpired for both teams this season, your scenario will likely play out, but who knows. 

[goose111874 967]

Never noticed the difference in amount of teams in division 1@2 in Region D

[1inStripes 932]

On 9/21/2021 at 3:41 PM, UVAObserver said:

Sources indicate this is a good possibility.

Man...a 12 team playoff in D1?  I doubt it.

[Deleted Account 5,203]

8 minutes ago, 1inStripes said:

Man...a 12 team playoff in D1?  I doubt it.

Just for 2A.  

[BandanaVTDavis4321 1,717]

Top 4 would be fine in 2D except Central is clearly a playoff deserving team.  If they take the top 2 in each district, it's Graham and VH clearly deserving along with the three 2A teams from the M7 clearly deserving in Central, Union, Ridgeview.  Assuming it's the top2 in the M7, one of those three schools is getting a raw deal if not allowed in the playoffs.  No offense to VH which is greatly improved and has truly turned the corner, but I still think Central, Union, Ridgeview all beat VH in a head to head contest........which is why a top 4 scenario this year is truly going to screw over one of the M7 schools.  Not only that, all three of those M7 schools are probably top 7 to top 8 in the state of Virginia.  It would be shameful for example, Central, probably the 7th to 8th best 2A team in Virginia to somehow not be allowed in the playoffs. 

[Union_Fan 2,154]

3 minutes ago, vtdavis4321 said:

Top 4 would be fine in 2D except Central is clearly a playoff deserving team.  If they take the top 2 in each district, it's Graham and VH clearly deserving along with the three 2A teams from the M7 clearly deserving in Central, Union, Ridgeview.  Assuming it's the top2 in the M7, one of those three schools is getting a raw deal if not allowed in the playoffs.  No offense to VH which is greatly improved and has truly turned the corner, but I still think Central, Union, Ridgeview all beat VH in a head to head contest........which is why a top 4 scenario this year is truly going to screw over one of the M7 schools.  Not only that, all three of those M7 schools are probably top 7 to top 8 in the state of Virginia.  It would be shameful for example, Central, probably the 7th to 8th best 2A team in Virginia to somehow not be allowed in the playoffs. 

Think the discussion was top 4 in each district, so all should be good if they do that.

[stu_bean 1,058]

3 hours ago, Union_Fan said:

Think the discussion was top 4 in each district, so all should be good if they do that.

Which then means one team gets left out in SW and two in M7.  So again harder to miss playoffs than to make them.  But I do agree with earlier statements as one M7 team will get screwed if you had less.

[Union_Fan 2,154]

3 minutes ago, stu_bean said:

Which then means one team gets left out in SW and two in M7.  So again harder to miss playoffs than to make them.  But I do agree with earlier statements as one M7 team will get screwed if you had less.

Yep! Maybe 2 is too few, 4 is too many, and 3 is too hard because of the bye that would be needed. In reality, top 4 ensures that the #1 seeds get a "tune-up" game for the 1st round while the 2 and 3 seeds battle their hearts out. I'd rather include a "bad" team than leave out a good one.