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1 minute ago, tarheel1217 said:

the playoffs are too of a stage for travis i dont think he gameplans right like he would during the regular season everytime they make the playoffs its a blowout from teams that cant be that much better than union

Not a union guy here but damn man relax...he lost to a team today that plain and simply better....it happens

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9 minutes ago, tarheel1217 said:

im not trying to be too hard on him but this is every year and he took over 2 programs that had won 13 or 14 state titles between the two and cant get past the region

its time to go a different way 

And who would get them over that hump in your opinion

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i dont know to be honest i just think the stage is too big for travis his they ran a ball control formula over va high which fair enough is certainly not graham

and it worked just fine they go to graham and take a dump in the middle of the field

 

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Look who Union is losing to each year.  They are losing in the playoffs mostly to state champions, be it Graham or Appo.  One could make a valid argument,,,,again, arguable that Union has been the 2nd or 3rd best Class 2 program in the state of Virginia since 2011.  Think about it.  Who's been better?  Appo is one, then you have teams like Graham, Richlands (up until 2016), but Graham didn't really come out of their funk until 2015ish, Draft, Poquoson, Clarke County, Giles, Glenvar, Radford.  Give the nod to Graham for a state title, (maybe) and Union is likely the 3rd best, maybe the 2nd best Class 2 program in the state of Virginia over the last 10 years.  

Union should make offensive adjustments.  Needs to get a modern run oriented offensive system, but that doesn't require a coaching change.  Union is well coached.  They lost to a team that is clearly better and Union has been in the West where they were unfortunate enough to meet Appo in the semi's.  Replace Union and Draft, swap them out and put Union in the East and Draft in the West, and Union is playing for perhaps 4 state title games the past 10 years.  

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100-73 (.752) ; not a single losing season in 11 years with, IINM, 3 Regional titles. The consolidation of powerhouses more often than not results in a less successful program. IMO, the only realistic chance for a Union title was 2017, which would have required the Bears beat Appo and RE Lee in back-to-back games. Union fell just short 23-20 to the Raiders that season who then beat the Leeman by 4. Perhaps tweaks to staff and systems are in order, but replacing Turner would be foolish, 

 

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Turner is one of the very best coaches in the region.  Period.  They’ve gotten beat  by some really good ( better teams ) in the playoffs.   The season changed a little when you lost a couple players to injury.  Doesn't take much in 2a football to have a huge impact.  We love the spread here in tornado land.  Still do.   I cringed the last two weeks of the season watching us go heavy set and run up the middle literally every play. But , We played our best football of the season. It was as easy as getting the ball to our best player 20+ times.  Ridgeview didn’t play bad like people thought.  Va high didn’t either.  We just dumbed it down because our offense Was so pour all season long and as a result we stopped going 3 and out 10 times a game. You just thumped va high last week behind Lomaxs 400 yards.  If you were in a more open offense , things like 3 and outs will prevent you from letting Lomax have the 30 touches he needed for you all to pull away.  Relax.  Union is a tough out each year  ,  play well and are well respected around the state.   Be careful what you wish for.    

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9 hours ago, tarheel1217 said:

the playoffs are too of a stage for travis i dont think he gameplans right like he would during the regular season everytime they make the playoffs its a blowout from teams that cant be that much better than union

Joe Biden , go back to DC you big dummy

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Can we just delete this post? Dabo is having a bad year too should we replace him too? This by far is the worst post ever delete delete delete. 
please tell us who you are , you need mental health help, we have you a long a jacket that ties in the rear and a room at the Marion Hilton 

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Why would you replace a coach who has never had a losing regular season? Turner is one of the best head coaches in SWVA. Union is a very good program and I get nauseous every time Graham has to play them, lol. Union would be plain dumb is get rid of him. 

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Just for the record Union was 5-6 in their first year. He can only play the hand he is dealt. What other weapons did he have this year other than Lomax? He had some solid, tough players and one great player. He really did not have much else to work with.

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I think Turner just needs to clean house. 
 

But here’s the rundown of how the playoffs have ended. 
 

Here are the losses. 
 

2011 Stuarts Draft 17-15 Round 1

2012 Stuarts Draft 28-21 Round 2 (A game in which Union was fooled by how many onside and squib?)

2013 Gate City 24-14 Round 2 (Gate City peaked at the right time and Union fizzled)

2014 Glenvar 19-9 Round 2 (Glenvar won state)

2015 Clarke County 43-15 State Semi 

2016 Appomattox 43-0 State Quarter (Appomattox won state)

2017 Appomattox 23-20 State Semi. (Union honestly should have won but came up short. Appomattox won state)

2018 Graham 28-7 Round 2. Graham won state.
 

2019 Graham 48-7 Round 2. 
 

Spring 21 Appomattox 51-20 State Semis. Appomattox won state. 
 

2021 Graham 48-13 Round 2. 
 

Most of those seasons we lost to a team that was simply better. Some of the games we lost were winnable and had something turned out differently we would have advanced.  

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1 hour ago, jarhead24219 said:

Can we just delete this post? Dabo is having a bad year too should we replace him too? This by far is the worst post ever delete delete delete. 
please tell us who you are , you need mental health help, we have you a long a jacket that ties in the rear and a room at the Marion Hilton 

He's foolish but no way this is the worst post ever on this board....not even close lol

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11 hours ago, tarheel1217 said:

the playoffs are too of a stage for travis i dont think he gameplans right like he would during the regular season everytime they make the playoffs its a blowout from teams that cant be that much better than union

NO!!!    Good Grief 

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You may get what you wish for, but just look forward to what you are going to get.  Travis Turner is courted for every big job in the area, and he always stays loyal.  What’s funny is how fans react, and how “SPOILED” some in BSG/APPY are.  The 80s-90s were two of the best runs in Southwest Virginia ever by PV/APPY!  Whether you want to believe it of not, that kind of talent isnt over there currently.  Graham has had a great run of talent, and it shows.  There is a lot of “FUTURE TALENT” on its way at UNION.  Style of play is one thing, but having the “JIMMYS and JOES” is different.  

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If I'm not mistaken, Graham has lost to two teams in the state of Virginia since 2017. Union and Appo. As a program I would put Union at or near the top. I agree with several of the posters on here about changing some things up on offense and defense but definitely don't send Travis down the road. Those kids play hard for him.

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Agreed, certain tasks that may be too much for certain staff might be slowing them down a bit but not enough to get rid of him.   Record speaks for itself,  had the ball bounced differently a few times then yea maybe 1-2 title appearances/ wins. They're steady, just haven't crossed the hump yet.  

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