ImFromOutEast 14 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 yes in the loss to Goochland KW had 5 starters sit out the first half. And, while not making excuses for them they played just one half of football for scrimmages because of weather. One scrimmage got canceled and the other just went one half before weather stopped it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandanaVTDavis4321 1,717 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 In Grahams defense, the loss the QB Blevins on defense severely hurt them. That kid was better defensively than offensively and they greatly felt the effects of his loss against Appo and KW. That was a major blow for Graham. He makes a couple of those tackles today with Claiborne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose111874 967 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Was hoping Graham would win but today wasn't their day. Congrats on season though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Sasquatch 1,865 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, BandanaVTDavis4321 said: I wonder if the Graham staff thinks about it? I'm serious. For example, has someone mentioned in practice or just in passing conversation, hey coach, did you know we haven't thrown a screen pass in all 13 or 14 games this year at any point? Just perplexing to me. But, I've made my point enough. TIme to let it go. I agree. Too predictable. But King William was more athletic and the more physical team today. Claiborne was as good as advertised. This King William team came ready to play today. They played with a chip on their shoulder. I'm not a coach, but it seems like KW knew what Graham was going to do before they did it. Graham had a great season and I wouldnt be surprised if they arent in the thick of things next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandanaVTDavis4321 1,717 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Graham's future is bright. I understand they have tons of talent in the tank and are getting a Div 1 prospect at QB coming from Parkersburg for next year and most of their linenis back other than Meadows. It's tough to replace two d1 kids. Just can't do it, but Grahams likely got a lot of deep playoff runs in the near future. I know RV returns a bunch, but I would be surprised if the GMen are not back in the state semifinals again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose111874 967 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, BandanaVTDavis4321 said: Graham's future is bright. I understand they have tons of talent in the tank and are getting a Div 1 prospect at QB coming from Parkersburg for next year and most of their linenis back other than Meadows. It's tough to replace two d1 kids. Just can't do it, but Grahams likely got a lot of deep playoff runs in the near future. I know RV returns a bunch, but I would be surprised if the GMen are not back in the state semifinals again. Ridgeview will definitely be the team to beat on this end of region Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBHoops_18 206 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, BandanaVTDavis4321 said: I understand they have tons of talent in the tank and are getting a Div 1 prospect at QB coming from Parkersburg for next year is that actually true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose111874 967 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 1 minute ago, BBHoops_18 said: is that actually true? God I hope not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornado99 345 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Congratulations to King William. Congratulations to Graham on a great season. I wasn't there, so I can't speak on talent or coaching. In my experience, usually the best team wins. Coaching helps maximize the potential. There's no question in my opinion that generally the most talented win state championships. Sounded like it was King William today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandanaVTDavis4321 1,717 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Just now, BBHoops_18 said: is that actually true? It's what 2 Graham fans have told me from this board and said it's not a done deal, but likely. That's the instant messages I've received. Will the kid 100 percent end up there? I have no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 24 minutes ago, stu_bean said: Makes you wonder how in the world they lost to Goochland 7-13 to open the season Claiborne and another players did not play that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandanaVTDavis4321 1,717 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Just now, GMan said: Claiborne and another players did not play that game. Claiborne didn't play the first half due to disciplinary reasons according to their fans comments. He played the second half against Goochland. This is what I read from KW fans. I don't know if true, but theybsaid he did play the second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandanaVTDavis4321 1,717 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 GMAN, Tony Palmer has had the Gmen in 3 state semis and in two state title games the last last 4 years. That obviously VERY GOOD. But I have to ask you since you are probably as close to the Graham program as anyone. What in the world is the deal with no screens or bubbles, hitches in their passing game. I'm really scratching.my head, just alarming that it's non-existent. Still, credit KW. They were better and I don't know if it would have mattered, but Good Gracious, just no screens or bubbles to offset their aggressive front 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Sasquatch 1,865 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, BandanaVTDavis4321 said: Claiborne didn't play the first half due to disciplinary reasons according to their fans comments. He played the second half against Goochland. This is what I read from KW fans. I don't know if true, but theybsaid he did play the second half. Watched it on NFHS. He and the QB both sat out the first half in that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham32 335 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 1 minute ago, BandanaVTDavis4321 said: GMAN, Tony Palmer has had the Gmen in 3 state semis and in Teo state title games thst last 4 years. That obviously VERY GOOD. But I have to ask you since you are probably as close to the Graham program as anyone. What in the world is the deal with no screens or bubbles, hitches in their passing game. I'm really scratching.my head, just alarming that it's non-existent. Still, credit KW. They were better and I don't know if it would have mattered, but Good Gracious, just no screens or bubbles to offset their aggressive front 7. Grahams play calling in this one was very questionable. They became one demential Real Sasquatch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose111874 967 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Real Sasquatch said: Watched it on NFHS. He and the QB both sat out the first half in that one. The way everyone said they where acting it's not surprising they were disciplined probably for they're behavior GHS89, Real Sasquatch and Gridiron60 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandanaVTDavis4321 1,717 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Just now, Graham32 said: Grahams play calling in this one was very questionable. Well, maybe? If you don't have hitches, bubbles, tunnels, he$$, any kind of screen in your playbook, then you can't call it to start with.  Graham 2 times on 4th down jumped offsides and that was due to offensive coaching indecision. You could tell, Grahams offensive staff was a bit rattled and indecisive and I think it helped increase the chances of jumping offsides. Graham32 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImFromOutEast 14 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 It had nothing to do with behavior. 3 sat out the 1st half vs Goochland for being unsupervised in the weight room after school hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Sasquatch 1,865 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 I agree with VTDavis on the play calling    Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose111874 967 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Just now, ImFromOutEast said: It had nothing to do with behavior. 3 sat out the 1st half vs Goochland for being unsupervised in the weight room after school hours. Gotcha, just heard some saying they're a little lippy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridiron60 2,554 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Congratulations to KW , the better team today but I really would have loved to played this game with a healthy Blevins on defense & Sawyers. It’s hard when your normal outside linebackers aren’t in the game and you're playing against a KW with a Claiborne. He’s the real deal! Not making excuses, we got our butts beat.  I’m not sure the score would have been the same with a 100% healthy Graham. Not saying Graham wins but saying it would most likely have been closer. Proud of our boys for keeping it classy and on a spectacular season. Wish it would have ended differently. Real Sasquatch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westisthebest 88 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Graham32 said: Grahams play calling in this one was very questionable. They became one demential Credit to Blevins though for toughing it out. Im sure it was difficult to be accurate with the injury regardless of which leg was hurt, which may be why there were very few pass plays to open everything up. But apparently they still thought he gave them the best chance to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Sasquatch 1,865 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Just now, goose111874 said: Gotcha, just heard some saying they're a little lippy More then a little.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandanaVTDavis4321 1,717 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Just now, Westisthebest said: Credit to Blevins though for toughing it out. Im sure it was difficult to be accurate with the injury regardless of which leg was hurt, which may be why there were very few pass plays to open everything up. But apparently they still thought he gave them the best chance to win. Agree on Blevins, but....Graham has had a non existent short and intermediate passing game all year long, even when Blevins was healthy. If you have a QB with a hurt foot, then that is precisely the time you use and go to a short, screen type passing game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose111874 967 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Just now, Real Sasquatch said: More then a little.  Yeah I figured was trying to be nice. I really root against teams who act like that. Guess I'm getting old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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