Region D Awards

[Gridiron60]

Does anyone have a comprehensive list? 
 

[jeffro]

So did they forget about region D or did i miss something?

 

[Gridiron60]

1 hour ago, jeffro said:

So did they forget about region D or did i miss something?

 

I’ve just seen individual schools post but not a singular list of the entire region. 

[ghs73]

What about districts

[ghs73]

On 12/17/2024 at 7:30 PM, Gridiron60 said:

Does anyone have a comprehensive list? 
 

Guess we are not important enough in region D for rankings eve though we have the 2A title in D

 

On 12/17/2024 at 7:30 PM, Gridiron60 said:

Does anyone have a comprehensive list? 
 

 

[Wolf1207]

I remember a time this would be in the newspapers one the final team from a district or region season ended. But there are few good papers left on the USA. 

[SpillBoss]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Jg0litrFheil24xGBpQ7dp_Hu1RdKAaA/view

 

[Real Sasquatch]

46 minutes ago, SpillBoss said:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Jg0litrFheil24xGBpQ7dp_Hu1RdKAaA/view

 

Who the heck is Peyton Deel from Graham?

[Gridiron60]

39 minutes ago, Real Sasquatch said:

Who the heck is Peyton Deel from Graham?

Right? I feel like Jysir Williamson was deserving of 1st team but I don’t get a vote, lol. 

[jeffro]

1 hour ago, Gridiron60 said:

Right? I feel like Jysir Williamson was deserving of 1st team but I don’t get a vote, lol. 

 Jysir had an incredible year. I also think he was deserving 1st team Defense.  Watch for him as Defense POTY candidate next 2 years

[jeffro]

Also big congrats to Omari Hill for Defense Player of the year.  Some kind of special!!

[jeffro]

lastly, How do you keep one of the leading scorers in VHSL history off this team?    Dillon Nash

[Gridiron60]

36 minutes ago, jeffro said:

lastly, How do you keep one of the leading scorers in VHSL history off this team?    Dillon Nash

I noticed that too. For being state champions, Graham got a bit slighted in my opinion. Nash should have definitely been on the list somewhere. 

[SwvaOG]

Can someone explain why there is an offensive all-purpose?  I don't understand the concept. If you are not 1st/2nd team as a QB, WR or RB how do you get to be 1st team all-purpose?  Now...if a kid literally plays several offensive positions, I'd understand more but still wouldn't agree.  Is this a new thing?  I don't remember having this when I played....but that was a long time ago.

[Gridiron60]

2 hours ago, SwvaOG said:

Can someone explain why there is an offensive all-purpose?  I don't understand the concept. If you are not 1st/2nd team as a QB, WR or RB how do you get to be 1st team all-purpose?  Now...if a kid literally plays several offensive positions, I'd understand more but still wouldn't agree.  Is this a new thing?  I don't remember having this when I played....but that was a long time ago.

I think it comes from the mentality , every kid gets a trophy, maybe? Another way to get an additional player some recognition??? 

[tornado99]

4 hours ago, SwvaOG said:

Can someone explain why there is an offensive all-purpose?  I don't understand the concept. If you are not 1st/2nd team as a QB, WR or RB how do you get to be 1st team all-purpose?  Now...if a kid literally plays several offensive positions, I'd understand more but still wouldn't agree.  Is this a new thing?  I don't remember having this when I played....but that was a long time ago.

 

1 hour ago, Gridiron60 said:

I think it comes from the mentality , every kid gets a trophy, maybe? Another way to get an additional player some recognition??? 

I think both are correct. I know in other levels, the term athlete is applied. I think it’s another word for jack of all trades, or someone more versatile as OG said playing multiple positions. 
 

More often than not, I think it leans toward the latter to recognize an additional player. I get it, but don’t always agree with it. I think sometimes extenuating circumstances can affect the player. Example, a kid switching positions to help the team due to injury or some other reason midseason. In other circumstances where they played the same position, they may be a better player but wouldn’t have the body of work as a player who played in the same position. Some might be scheme dependent that lean toward stats. 
My opinion is that it should be applied to the more versatile player. For this season, I would say Keshawn Smith from Virginia High. While recognized as a receiver, I think anybody that watched him in games could see he was the best athlete. He wasn’t just receiving, he was often rushing. I’d say his receiving stats were modest, but his total impact applied to all facets. 
Just my opinion, and trying to reason why myself. Sometimes the best player isn’t a specialist at a single position.

[SwvaOG]

I don't agree with it the more I think about it.  There are clear positions on the field.  It is saved for skill position players only and, realistically, is always going to be a running QB that doesn't pass much/well or a WR that doubles as a RB on occasion.  What about an OL that moves down the line due to injuries?  What about an OL that plays C and then bumps out to OT for some reason?  Two very different positions.  I guess the reason I don't agree with it is you already have RB, WR, QB, KR and PR designated. 

[tornado99]

14 hours ago, SwvaOG said:

I don't agree with it the more I think about it.  There are clear positions on the field.  It is saved for skill position players only and, realistically, is always going to be a running QB that doesn't pass much/well or a WR that doubles as a RB on occasion.  What about an OL that moves down the line due to injuries?  What about an OL that plays C and then bumps out to OT for some reason?  Two very different positions.  I guess the reason I don't agree with it is you already have RB, WR, QB, KR and PR designated. 

I am on the spectrum closer to agreeing with you. I think the current watered down playoff system is a decent comparison. In most seasons, a lower seed doesn’t belong, but there are sometimes exceptions. I think we over corrected that system where 9-1 teams missed. In recognition, we over correct to ensure someone isn’t missed, even if not always applicable. Just trying to understand it, again myself.

(Another caveat, might be the makeup of the offense/defense selections. Why not have 1 RB and 3 WR? 4 DL-3 LB, vs 5-2? Just rambling, but I’m sure it comes down to the intent of the selectors. I noticed some were selected at different positions occasionally. Gabe Lilly at first team RB may be listed in the program and deservedly did his damage rushing, albeit primarily from the “QB” position.)

[Gridiron60]

4 hours ago, tornado99 said:

I am on the spectrum closer to agreeing with you. I think the current watered down playoff system is a decent comparison. In most seasons, a lower seed doesn’t belong, but there are sometimes exceptions. I think we over corrected that system where 9-1 teams missed. In recognition, we over correct to ensure someone isn’t missed, even if not always applicable. Just trying to understand it, again myself.

(Another caveat, might be the makeup of the offense/defense selections. Why not have 1 RB and 3 WR? 4 DL-3 LB, vs 5-2? Just rambling, but I’m sure it comes down to the intent of the selectors. I noticed some were selected at different positions occasionally. Gabe Lilly at first team RB may be listed in the program and deservedly did his damage rushing, albeit primarily from the “QB” position.)

In addition to Nash not being selected, I need someone to explain how Blake Graham wasn’t selected for 1st team defense as DB when he had at least one interception against the offensive POY in the state semifinal and two in the state championship game if I remember correctly but the DB from the losing team got 1st team all-state. Graham was a bigger factor on defense in the championship game than the player from Strasburg. I’m sure Graham had several interceptions during the regular season too.  I know GMen can’t have all the accolades but not having Graham on 1st team defense is ridiculous in my opinion, same as Nash not getting any recognition . 

[jeffro]

10 minutes ago, Gridiron60 said:

In addition to Nash not being selected, I need someone to explain how Blake Graham wasn’t selected for 1st team defense as DB when he had at least one interception against the offensive POY in the state semifinal and two in the state championship game if I remember correctly but the DB from the losing team got 1st team all-state. Graham was a bigger factor on defense in the championship game than the player from Strasburg. I’m sure Graham had several interceptions during the regular season too.  I know GMen can’t have all the accolades but not having Graham on 1st team defense is ridiculous in my opinion, same as Nash not getting any recognition . 

He had too many interceptions..  

[EH31]

17 minutes ago, Gridiron60 said:

In addition to Nash not being selected, I need someone to explain how Blake Graham wasn’t selected for 1st team defense as DB when he had at least one interception against the offensive POY in the state semifinal and two in the state championship game if I remember correctly but the DB from the losing team got 1st team all-state. Graham was a bigger factor on defense in the championship game than the player from Strasburg. I’m sure Graham had several interceptions during the regular season too.  I know GMen can’t have all the accolades but not having Graham on 1st team defense is ridiculous in my opinion, same as Nash not getting any recognition . 

Because It’s all political. Would you take Edwards off to put Blake Graham on there? With the coaches voting on the list you’re not going to get both guys on there.

[Gridiron60]

5 minutes ago, EH31 said:

Because It’s all political. Would you take Edwards off to put Blake Graham on there? With the coaches voting on the list you’re not going to get both guys on there.

Of course, it’s political. It was more of a rhetorical question but if  I could vote, I’d take one of the other three off and leave Edwards & add Graham. 😂 

[Hokiebird7]

Who cares? You won a state title

[jeffro]

They deserve the recognition, Both were best in the state. Absolute shut down corners. 

[Hokiebird7]

1 hour ago, jeffro said:

They deserve the recognition, Both were best in the state. Absolute shut down corners. 

Im sure they care more about the title than the recognition...or at least I hope they do