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2 hours ago, Bcats said:

I'm not embarrassed by what Va High did last night, the Va High fans I've spoken to since the incident none of them are embarrassed, who should be embarrassed is grown men reffing the game cheating the kids. I believe 3 starters for Va High had 3 or more fouls before halftime 🤔 then you had a police officer that doesn’t look like the kids for Va High pumping up the Floyd County student section so who really should be embarrassed 

Could be their resource officer...

Posted
2 hours ago, Bcats said:

Va High and John Marshall are the 2 most teams criticized on this site, not skills wise but culture wise they almost look alike, Va High players shouldn't be allowed to trash talking, their fans shouldn't be passionate for their team, their coaches shouldn't be allowed to show any emotions, the kids for John Marshall shouldn't allowed to team up, so tell me that people that look like them what they should be allowed to do and I'll relay the message 

Wise Centrals fans are just as bad and they look nothing like VA High

Posted
3 hours ago, Bcats said:

Va High and John Marshall are the 2 most teams criticized on this site, not skills wise but culture wise they almost look alike, Va High players shouldn't be allowed to trash talking, their fans shouldn't be passionate for their team, their coaches shouldn't be allowed to show any emotions, the kids for John Marshall shouldn't allowed to team up, so tell me that people that look like them what they should be allowed to do and I'll relay the message 

I don't care about what people look like, I care about their actions. VA Highs actions these past several years have been unacceptable. Theres a right and wrong way to be competitive and compassionate for your team, yet they always seem to be doing it wrong. I can't blame the kids, because they've grown up knowing no better, but I do however blame the parents and the adults involved. We all love to see our team win, but at the end of the day, it is only a high school game.

Posted
23 minutes ago, Rebels99 said:

I don't care about what people look like, I care about their actions. VA Highs actions these past several years have been unacceptable. Theres a right and wrong way to be competitive and compassionate for your team, yet they always seem to be doing it wrong. I can't blame the kids, because they've grown up knowing no better, but I do however blame the parents and the adults involved. We all love to see our team win, but at the end of the day, it is only a high school game.

You might not care but some do i guess cause I'm still trying to figure out what are the differences in the same situation, Jimmy Gobble punched his son an that didn't cause this much outrage, some were saying I love to have a dad like that, he showed how to discipline his kid, oh an his kid wasn't a thug he's just young and he'll learn from this. Let some tell it I can't believe Va High have students and they're actually people that live in bristol because they're all thugs, no class and we're all in jail

Posted
7 hours ago, Bcats said:

You might not care but some do i guess cause I'm still trying to figure out what are the differences in the same situation, Jimmy Gobble punched his son an that didn't cause this much outrage, some were saying I love to have a dad like that, he showed how to discipline his kid, oh an his kid wasn't a thug he's just young and he'll learn from this. Let some tell it I can't believe Va High have students and they're actually people that live in bristol because they're all thugs, no class and we're all in jail

I watched that replay a few times as well.  Gobble did not punch his son; he shoved him back in the handshake line because he was running his mouth.  He was both a parent and a coach in that moment.  Not only did he corral his player, but he was also reprimanding his child for doing something that was disrespectful and poor sportsmanship.  VA High coaches let Landon Lee cross halfcourt and repeatedly berate the officials before his technical.  They should have been there to push him back to his bench.  You can't falsify other instances to try to justify this one.  Sportsmanship and respect are things that have been lost these days.  

Posted
8 minutes ago, Elder statesman said:

I watched that replay a few times as well.  Gobble did not punch his son; he shoved him back in the handshake line because he was running his mouth.  He was both a parent and a coach in that moment.  Not only did he corral his player, but he was also reprimanding his child for doing something that was disrespectful and poor sportsmanship.  VA High coaches let Landon Lee cross halfcourt and repeatedly berate the officials before his technical.  They should have been there to push him back to his bench.  You can't falsify other instances to try to justify this one.  Sportsmanship and respect are things that have been lost these days.  

That was my first thought when watching that unfold, "Where are the coaches?"

Posted
3 hours ago, Elder statesman said:

I watched that replay a few times as well.  Gobble did not punch his son; he shoved him back in the handshake line because he was running his mouth.  He was both a parent and a coach in that moment.  Not only did he corral his player, but he was also reprimanding his child for doing something that was disrespectful and poor sportsmanship.  VA High coaches let Landon Lee cross halfcourt and repeatedly berate the officials before his technical.  They should have been there to push him back to his bench.  You can't falsify other instances to try to justify this one.  Sportsmanship and respect are things that have been lost these days.  

The only reason I'm bringing up other incidents is I'm having a hard time trying to figure out why there's so much backlash against 1 team in SWVA, I've done heard they got the worst announcers, fans, parents, coaches and players and the only logic thing i could come up with is they don't look like most teams in the area. John Marshall probably gets more backlash than Va High, them kids at John Marshall ain't drug dealers, they ain't gang bangers, they're not on heavy drugs they're just joining to play basketball and that's still a problem, why because they don't look like the kids from Lee High or Ridgeview and so on. The Va High announcers one is a tn high grade another one is a db grad, the Va High fans watch any Va High game and there's barely anyone there, go listen to the gate city announcer before the region game girls and boys against Va High he said there's more gate city fans here in bristol than Va High fans, he said I don't know why they don't support their team but somehow we're this massive fan base that's so annoying. Va High is the only team in SWVA that doesn't have a student section for their home games, go pull up every game this season and see for yourself, then against gate city in the region semi’s they formed about 10 kids a little student section. I guarantee you over 90% of Bristol didn't even know that Va High was playing in the state quarterfinals against Floyd County, pull up that video also and you're going to see about 10 orange shirts over in the corner that's the parents of players not Bearcat fans. Time to move on to Floyd County VS Graham 

Posted
52 minutes ago, Bcats said:

The only reason I'm bringing up other incidents is I'm having a hard time trying to figure out why there's so much backlash against 1 team in SWVA, I've done heard they got the worst announcers, fans, parents, coaches and players and the only logic thing i could come up with is they don't look like most teams in the area. John Marshall probably gets more backlash than Va High, them kids at John Marshall ain't drug dealers, they ain't gang bangers, they're not on heavy drugs they're just joining to play basketball and that's still a problem, why because they don't look like the kids from Lee High or Ridgeview and so on. The Va High announcers one is a tn high grade another one is a db grad, the Va High fans watch any Va High game and there's barely anyone there, go listen to the gate city announcer before the region game girls and boys against Va High he said there's more gate city fans here in bristol than Va High fans, he said I don't know why they don't support their team but somehow we're this massive fan base that's so annoying. Va High is the only team in SWVA that doesn't have a student section for their home games, go pull up every game this season and see for yourself, then against gate city in the region semi’s they formed about 10 kids a little student section. I guarantee you over 90% of Bristol didn't even know that Va High was playing in the state quarterfinals against Floyd County, pull up that video also and you're going to see about 10 orange shirts over in the corner that's the parents of players not Bearcat fans. Time to move on to Floyd County VS Graham 

Do you seriously think race is the reason why people complain about John Marshall? 

Posted
12 minutes ago, jwgarrett20 said:

Do you seriously think race is the reason why people complain about John Marshall? 

Unfortunately the race card is always used when people in the minority are involved.  

Posted
1 hour ago, jwgarrett20 said:

Do you seriously think race is the reason why people complain about John Marshall? 

Thank you, what is it then that John Marshall is doing wrong to have all this criticism, they petition to move up and got denied, the VHSL knows what they're doing and letting it ride because it's no state or federal crime in moving into the district after being recruited to play basketball. What is it then about the Va High kids that they’re doing so wrong, I wasn't there but the players felt like they wasn't getting a fair chance to compete an felt a bit of racism was playing a part of the game, so they were expressing how they felt, i guess Va High is the only team that does that. All we're going to do is keep going in circle. The players and fans from either Graham or Floyd County will get to experience what i experience last year the kids from John Marshall dress in suits, very respectful young men, looked to be intelligent young men that loves to play basketball 

Posted
13 minutes ago, Bcats said:

Thank you, what is it then that John Marshall is doing wrong to have all this criticism, they petition to move up and got denied, the VHSL knows what they're doing and letting it ride because it's no state or federal crime in moving into the district after being recruited to play basketball. What is it then about the Va High kids that they’re doing so wrong, I wasn't there but the players felt like they wasn't getting a fair chance to compete an felt a bit of racism was playing a part of the game, so they were expressing how they felt, i guess Va High is the only team that does that. All we're going to do is keep going in circle. The players and fans from either Graham or Floyd County will get to experience what i experience last year the kids from John Marshall dress in suits, very respectful young men, looked to be intelligent young men that loves to play basketball 

Most people know that what JM is doing isn't right and they are manipulating the rules.  It wouldn't matter to me if they were white, brown or purple.  The thing about Va High is that they complain about EVERYTHING.  Every time the whistle blows against them they are throwing up their hands and talking to the officials.  I understand there are other teams that complain too but I haven't seen one that comes even close to the amount that Va High does.  

Posted
9 minutes ago, Observer said:

Most people know that what JM is doing isn't right and they are manipulating the rules.  It wouldn't matter to me if they were white, brown or purple.  The thing about Va High is that they complain about EVERYTHING.  Every time the whistle blows against them they are throwing up their hands and talking to the officials.  I understand there are other teams that complain too but I haven't seen one that comes even close to the amount that Va High does.  

OK I can't argue against how you feel, the good thing for you is Va High lost so you don't have to deal with them anymore this basketball season, they're losing 4 of the 5 starters unless Landon Lee transfer then it's the starting 5 they'll be irrelevant for awhile in basketball 

Posted
1 hour ago, Bcats said:

Thank you, what is it then that John Marshall is doing wrong to have all this criticism, they petition to move up and got denied, the VHSL knows what they're doing and letting it ride because it's no state or federal crime in moving into the district after being recruited to play basketball. What is it then about the Va High kids that they’re doing so wrong, I wasn't there but the players felt like they wasn't getting a fair chance to compete an felt a bit of racism was playing a part of the game, so they were expressing how they felt, i guess Va High is the only team that does that. All we're going to do is keep going in circle. The players and fans from either Graham or Floyd County will get to experience what i experience last year the kids from John Marshall dress in suits, very respectful young men, looked to be intelligent young men that loves to play basketball 

Recruiting kids from up and down the eastern seaboard and manipulating the system is what John Marshall is doing that is rubbing people the wrong way.  Not the color of their skin.  As far as Virginia High goes, how were they not getting a fair chance to compete?  Should the referee have just turned a blind eye to them stepping out of bounds after the steal?  Would that have been fair?  Because that is where all of the mess started.  After that, a technical was given because the player wouldn't give the ball to the referee and just dropped it, then the coach picked it up and started yelling at the ref, so he got T'd up too.  And then the final one was where Lee decided to follow the refs out to midcourt and berate them.  All of that happened after the out of bounds call.  So are you stating they weren't getting a fair chance, or that it was racist because the ref made the correct call?  

Posted
11 minutes ago, jwgarrett20 said:

Recruiting kids from up and down the eastern seaboard and manipulating the system is what John Marshall is doing that is rubbing people the wrong way.  Not the color of their skin.  As far as Virginia High goes, how were they not getting a fair chance to compete?  Should the referee have just turned a blind eye to them stepping out of bounds after the steal?  Would that have been fair?  Because that is where all of the mess started.  After that, a technical was given because the player wouldn't give the ball to the referee and just dropped it, then the coach picked it up and started yelling at the ref, so he got T'd up too.  And then the final one was where Lee decided to follow the refs out to midcourt and berate them.  All of that happened after the out of bounds call.  So are you stating they weren't getting a fair chance, or that it was racist because the ref made the correct call?  

I'm saying I wasn't there so I don't know how they were treated nor can I argue against how they felt they were treated and wasn't given a fair chance. Personally I think it was just 1 bad ref not all of them that showed favoritism to Floyd County, maybe he was a former student or didn't like Va High who knows, I'm not crying about it Va High was never going to win state this year. Go listen on gc sports radio to the last 25 seconds of the gate city vs Lebanon game, gate city announcer admitted that GC benefited from 2 mysterious calls at the end, then go watch it on the NHFS and you'll see that maybe it was 3 calls, the 1st gc player held the ball around 7 seconds before calling a timeout, gc keeps the ball then throws it out of bounds it did look like it touched a Lebanon player but also it seem like a gc player touched it last, gc keeps possession, then Ollie Carpenter steps out of bounds and the ref makes the call for Lebanon to have possession but the ref on the other end of the court said no it was a foul with 2 seconds left then Ollie hits the game winner, do i think the ref was racist no, I just think it was one bad ref in that game also 

Posted

Not to beat a dead horse but the call on out of bounds was the correct call. The ball didn’t go out of bounds. #2  that made the steal knocked the ball loose, stepped out, then came back in and was the first to touch it. You can’t do that. Then all H E double LL broke lose. I get VH was frustrated but you can’t lose your composure like that and expect it to end well. As a spectator, you can’t run on the court during the game. As a player, you cannot continue as argue & mouth off to ref. It will eventually catch up to you. It’s a bad ending for the Bearcats & I wish the Seniors from VH nothing but the best of luck if they play at the collegiate level. Congrats on a great season & great high school careers. 
 

Posted
4 hours ago, jwgarrett20 said:

Do you seriously think race is the reason why people complain about John Marshall? 

Exactly if JM had 10 Cooper Flaggs people would still be mad it has nothing to do with race.  Alot of people hate Central to which also has nothing to do with race.  Not sure why race has to be brought up when it has nothing to do with the situation 

Posted
1 hour ago, Gridiron60 said:

Not to beat a dead horse but the call on out of bounds was the correct call. The ball didn’t go out of bounds. #2  that made the steal knocked the ball loose, stepped out, then came back in and was the first to touch it. You can’t do that. Then all H E double LL broke lose. I get VH was frustrated but you can’t lose your composure like that and expect it to end well. As a spectator, you can’t run on the court during the game. As a player, you cannot continue as argue & mouth off to ref. It will eventually catch up to you. It’s a bad ending for the Bearcats & I wish the Seniors from VH nothing but the best of luck if they play at the collegiate level. Congrats on a great season & great high school careers. 
 

Gridiron this is what gets me I've been on here saying it way before this game happened that Wise Central was a better team than Va High, I also said Graham was the better team also said during football season that Graham was going to smoke Va High in the playoffs and all seem to be true, but the hate for the Va High fan base which is little, the players, coaches and announcers i can't comprehend where it's coming from, if anybody goes back and watch the SWD championship game skip it to the very end of the game and Markelle Ray goes to the baseline bent over hurt, looks to be crying and Mozell dad the same awful man that needs to be arrested some say goes to Ray and embrace him and lifts him up. The state semifinals last year as soon as Graham lost the Va High announcers said the parents of Va High is out on the court embracing the Graham players, but I guess somehow we're all thugs

Posted

Last thing i want to say is i think we're really doing a disservice to Graham and Floyd County, I can't speak for others but I'm really looking forward to this game, i know what is waiting for either team a moment in lifetime for the players and fans that'll never forget, but judging by the thread it doesn't seem like much interest. My prediction the game is close then Graham turns up the defense then pulls away. Gridiron60 Lord willing if Graham wins make the trip it's a good experience 

Posted
28 minutes ago, Bcats said:

Gridiron this is what gets me I've been on here saying it way before this game happened that Wise Central was a better team than Va High, I also said Graham was the better team also said during football season that Graham was going to smoke Va High in the playoffs and all seem to be true, but the hate for the Va High fan base which is little, the players, coaches and announcers i can't comprehend where it's coming from, if anybody goes back and watch the SWD championship game skip it to the very end of the game and Markelle Ray goes to the baseline bent over hurt, looks to be crying and Mozell dad the same awful man that needs to be arrested some say goes to Ray and embrace him and lifts him up. The state semifinals last year as soon as Graham lost the Va High announcers said the parents of Va High is out on the court embracing the Graham players, but I guess somehow we're all thugs

Generally speaking, unfortunately a person can do a million good things but everyone will remember the one bad thing. I’m positive the Mozzell dad is a great guy. I certainly don’t expect him to be hauled off to jail. He let his emotions get the better of him. He was witnessing his son’s Senior season evaporate and probably felt hopeless and frustrated with son not being able to help. I’m not sure who’s calling VH players or JM players thugs but that’s obviously not acceptable either. 

Posted
6 minutes ago, Gridiron60 said:

Generally speaking, unfortunately a person can do a million good things but everyone will remember the one bad thing. I’m positive the Mozzell dad is a great guy. I certainly don’t expect him to be hauled off to jail. He let his emotions get the better of him. He was witnessing his son’s Senior season evaporate and probably felt hopeless and frustrated with son not being able to help. I’m not sure who’s calling VH players or JM players thugs but that’s obviously not acceptable either. 

This is so true, I don't want to disrespect Floyd but if Mozell didn't foul out we would have won and you guys are better than us, Graham got this, back to back state championship games in football and basketball, Graham is dominating right now, good luck to you guys

Posted
12 minutes ago, Bcats said:

This is so true, I don't want to disrespect Floyd but if Mozell didn't foul out we would have won and you guys are better than us, Graham got this, back to back state championship games in football and basketball, Graham is dominating right now, good luck to you guys

I tend to agree with  Mozzell in the game in OT , VA High would have won. Without Mozzell & Smith, VA High was handicapped in OT. It would be the same if Graham suddenly lost Ray & Graham. It would be hard. Thanks, hopefully, the guys can bring home the win tomorrow. 

Posted
On 3/5/2025 at 6:46 PM, Bcats said:

I'm not embarrassed by what Va High did last night, the Va High fans I've spoken to since the incident none of them are embarrassed, who should be embarrassed is grown men reffing the game cheating the kids. I believe 3 starters for Va High had 3 or more fouls before halftime 🤔 then you had a police officer that doesn’t look like the kids for Va High pumping up the Floyd County student section so who really should be embarrassed 

VH comletly blowed that game, thats tough to handle sometimes.. Wasn't the Refs.

Posted
On 3/6/2025 at 4:35 PM, Gridiron60 said:

Not to beat a dead horse but the call on out of bounds was the correct call. The ball didn’t go out of bounds. #2  that made the steal knocked the ball loose, stepped out, then came back in and was the first to touch it. You can’t do that. Then all H E double LL broke lose. I get VH was frustrated but you can’t lose your composure like that and expect it to end well. As a spectator, you can’t run on the court during the game. As a player, you cannot continue as argue & mouth off to ref. It will eventually catch up to you. It’s a bad ending for the Bearcats & I wish the Seniors from VH nothing but the best of luck if they play at the collegiate level. Congrats on a great season & great high school careers. 
 

@Bcats Dead horse post 😂 

 

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