So where’s the Graham vs J Marshall thread?

[SwvaOG]

12 hours ago, Graham32 said:

Would we consider Graham a top 100 high school team in the nation after tonight?

 

12 hours ago, tbgfan said:

Just as I said WOW!!!! WOW!!! with the play of the Central Lady Warriors.  It is ditto here for the G-men team.  They aren't the official champions, but they played with a champion's heart.  Not giving up.   I didn't think my b/p could hold out  the entire game, but these boys proved me wrong.   Tonight David faced Goliath.  In the Biblical story,  David took the giant down.  In this story, David let the giant know your in for a fight.  Congrats to these boys.  What an amazing game to watch.  

If not for Central, Ridgeview girls have 2-3 additional state championships.  Timing is such a big factor.

[Gridiron60]

53 minutes ago, SwvaOG said:

 

If not for Central, Ridgeview girls have 2-3 additional state championships.  Timing is such a big factor.

Ridgeview would have easily beat the Lady Justices. 

[CPF]

2 hours ago, SwvaOG said:

The irony is that Graham fans are mad about a coach recruiting players and bringing them in from other schools.  I mean....a bit of self-reflection?  😜

That being said, VHSL has to do something about John Marshall.  At least the G-Men are relegated to two states and 3-4 county recruiting footprint.

 

 

I'm not mad at all. I recognize the irony. Can't throw stones if you live in a glass house. Many others should live by that same philosophy. 

[Real Sasquatch]

6 hours ago, SwvaOG said:

The irony is that Graham fans are mad about a coach recruiting players and bringing them in from other schools.  I mean....a bit of self-reflection?  😜

That being said, VHSL has to do something about John Marshall.  At least the G-Men are relegated to two states and 3-4 county recruiting footprint.

 

 

Not close to the same thing.  The city of Richmond allows kids from within the city to attend any of the city schools that they choose.  There is no "attendance zone".  The rest of the state has to have kids live in the attendance zone.  So, to play for Graham, a kid must move to the attendance zone, with a parent.  A kid in Richmond does not have to live within the attendance zone.   Richmond is a big place with a lot of kids to choose from.  So, basically the best basketball players from Richmond can play for John Marshall without having to move to an attendance zone with a parent.  These kids transferring from other states can move anywhere within city limits.  Anybody going to Graham or any other school in the state of Virginia for that matter, must live in the attendance zone with a parent and must provide proof of residence.  Not the case in Richmond.  That being said, rumor is that John Marshalls head coach or CEO.....whatever the hell he calls himself ...will be at Petersburg High next year and most likely there will be a lot of those JM kids going with him.  It will be much harder for them to be eligible, they will have to move to the attendance zone with a parent.   I expect some of them will not be able to legitimately make that happen. 

[Gridiron60]

30 minutes ago, Real Sasquatch said:

Not close to the same thing.  The city of Richmond allows kids from within the city to attend any of the city schools that they choose.  There is no "attendance zone".  The rest of the state has to have kids live in the attendance zone.  So, to play for Graham, a kid must move to the attendance zone, with a parent.  A kid in Richmond does not have to live within the attendance zone.   Richmond is a big place with a lot of kids to choose from.  So, basically the best basketball players from Richmond can play for John Marshall without having to move to an attendance zone with a parent.  These kids transferring from other states can move anywhere within city limits.  Anybody going to Graham or any other school in the state of Virginia for that matter, must live in the attendance zone with a parent and must provide proof of residence.  Not the case in Richmond.  That being said, rumor is that John Marshalls head coach or CEO.....whatever the hell he calls himself ...will be at Petersburg High next year and most likely there will be a lot of those JM kids going with him.  It will be much harder for them to be eligible, they will have to move to the attendance zone with a parent.   I expect some of them will not be able to legitimately make that happen. 

Ty White getting ready to pull a Hayfield- be interesting how VHSL handles that if White goes to Petersburg & takes the team with him. 

[Real Sasquatch]

35 minutes ago, Gridiron60 said:

Ty White getting ready to pull a Hayfield- be interesting how VHSL handles that if White goes to Petersburg & takes the team with him. 

It'll be interesting to see, if that indeed happens.  

[Bcats]

1 hour ago, Real Sasquatch said:

Not close to the same thing.  The city of Richmond allows kids from within the city to attend any of the city schools that they choose.  There is no "attendance zone".  The rest of the state has to have kids live in the attendance zone.  So, to play for Graham, a kid must move to the attendance zone, with a parent.  A kid in Richmond does not have to live within the attendance zone.   Richmond is a big place with a lot of kids to choose from.  So, basically the best basketball players from Richmond can play for John Marshall without having to move to an attendance zone with a parent.  These kids transferring from other states can move anywhere within city limits.  Anybody going to Graham or any other school in the state of Virginia for that matter, must live in the attendance zone with a parent and must provide proof of residence.  Not the case in Richmond.  That being said, rumor is that John Marshalls head coach or CEO.....whatever the hell he calls himself ...will be at Petersburg High next year and most likely there will be a lot of those JM kids going with him.  It will be much harder for them to be eligible, they will have to move to the attendance zone with a parent.   I expect some of them will not be able to legitimately make that happen. 

You don't have a clue do you know how many kids are zone for dobyns Bennett but go to gate city and vice versa, do you know how many kids are zone for Va High but go to John Battle or TN High and the other way around, nothing is legit it's real easy to beat the system. Wise Central is recruiting like crazy, Trivette and the other best player just didn't wake up in abingdon they were recruited, everybody is recruiting but John Marshall is doing it better than everybody else, you act like it's the end of the world that a bunch of 14-18yrs old win class 2 state title 

[Real Sasquatch]

56 minutes ago, Bcats said:

You don't have a clue do you know how many kids are zone for dobyns Bennett but go to gate city and vice versa, do you know how many kids are zone for Va High but go to John Battle or TN High and the other way around, nothing is legit it's real easy to beat the system. Wise Central is recruiting like crazy, Trivette and the other best player just didn't wake up in abingdon they were recruited, everybody is recruiting but John Marshall is doing it better than everybody else, you act like it's the end of the world that a bunch of 14-18yrs old win class 2 state title 

Those situations aren't close to what John Marshall is doing either.   I did live in Richmond and worked in Petersburg, so I may know a little more about that situation.  I know nothing about those other schools you are speaking of, you are right about that.   It's comparing rotten apples and rotten oranges.  I didn't claim either was the best way to do things...

[Bcats]

19 minutes ago, Real Sasquatch said:

Those situations aren't close to what John Marshall is doing either.   I did live in Richmond and worked in Petersburg, so I may know a little more about that situation.  I know nothing about those other schools you are speaking of, you are right about that.   It's comparing rotten apples and rotten oranges.  I didn't claim either was the best way to do things...

OK understood. SWVA does illegal stuff too it's just different caliber of athletes so nobody really cares. A big example Ollie and Charlie Carpenter you probably don't know either are siblings living under the same roof but both attend separate high schools about 40 minutes apart 

[Real Sasquatch]

3 minutes ago, Bcats said:

OK understood. SWVA does illegal stuff too it's just different caliber of athletes so nobody really cares. A big example Ollie and Charlie Carpenter you probably don't know either are siblings living under the same roof but both attend separate high schools about 40 minutes apart 

For some odd reason, I don't know the living arrangements of every kid in SWVA.

[Gridiron60]

2 minutes ago, Bcats said:

OK understood. SWVA does illegal stuff too it's just different caliber of athletes so nobody really cares. A big example Ollie and Charlie Carpenter you probably don't know either are siblings living under the same roof but both attend separate high schools about 40 minutes apart 

I was curious why Ollie transferred to Gate City. Was Virginia High not a good fit for him? 

[Gridiron60]

1 minute ago, Real Sasquatch said:

For some odd reason, I don't know the living arrangements of every kid in SWVA.

I’m out of reactions by I laughed when I read that comment 😂😂😂😂😂.  

[Gridiron60]

3 hours ago, Real Sasquatch said:

Not close to the same thing.  The city of Richmond allows kids from within the city to attend any of the city schools that they choose.  There is no "attendance zone".  The rest of the state has to have kids live in the attendance zone.  So, to play for Graham, a kid must move to the attendance zone, with a parent.  A kid in Richmond does not have to live within the attendance zone.   Richmond is a big place with a lot of kids to choose from.  So, basically the best basketball players from Richmond can play for John Marshall without having to move to an attendance zone with a parent.  These kids transferring from other states can move anywhere within city limits.  Anybody going to Graham or any other school in the state of Virginia for that matter, must live in the attendance zone with a parent and must provide proof of residence.  Not the case in Richmond.  That being said, rumor is that John Marshalls head coach or CEO.....whatever the hell he calls himself ...will be at Petersburg High next year and most likely there will be a lot of those JM kids going with him.  It will be much harder for them to be eligible, they will have to move to the attendance zone with a parent.   I expect some of them will not be able to legitimately make that happen. 

John Marshall’s Rotation:
#0 - Transfer from Alabama 
#1 - Transfer picked up out of Team Loaded
#2 - Transfer from Lancaster
#3 Transfer from Alexanderia, Va
#4 Transfer picked up out of Team Loaded
#21 Transfer picked up out of Team Loaded
#24 - Transfer picked up out of Team Loaded

[Bcats]

15 minutes ago, Gridiron60 said:

I was curious why Ollie transferred to Gate City. Was Virginia High not a good fit for him? 

From what i heard that the head coach from Va High ran him off, I bet he regrets that now

[Bcats]

17 minutes ago, Real Sasquatch said:

For some odd reason, I don't know the living arrangements of every kid in SWVA.

OK cool well since you live in Richmond go outside and complain about JM and see where that gets you 

[Real Sasquatch]

3 minutes ago, Bcats said:

OK cool well since you live in Richmond go outside and complain about JM and see where that gets you 

"lived".   I'll complain about what I want to complain about, thanks for your suggestion, however 

[Bcats]

3 minutes ago, Real Sasquatch said:

"lived".   I'll complain about what I want to complain about, thanks for your suggestion, however 

OK I gave you about 5 minutes to step outside wherever you live to complain about JM, did they switch the school zones yet?

[Real Sasquatch]

7 minutes ago, Bcats said:

OK I gave you about 5 minutes to step outside wherever you live to complain about JM, did they switch the school zones yet?

Yeah, but they agreed with me and said it's not the same situation 

[Real Sasquatch]

The guy in this podcast says it better then I can.  Some really good insight on other things that the VHSL needs to change.

 

 

[Gridiron60]

16 minutes ago, Real Sasquatch said:

The guy in this podcast says it better then I can.  Some really good insight on other things that the VHSL needs to change.

 

 

He makes some great points about JM. I like the idea of going back to final four playoff series. I agree with him it was much more fun & drew in more people besides just team fans. 

[Bcats]

16 minutes ago, Real Sasquatch said:

The guy in this podcast says it better then I can.  Some really good insight on other things that the VHSL needs to change.

 

 

Let me say this I don't have a problem with Wise Central recruiting, I'm all about the youth but why do you think the same girls team in class 2 keep showing up to Richmond, they're getting some of the best talent transferring in. Jayden Carrico plays at Gate City she works her butt off all year long but chose not to transfer to Wise Central, she had no chance of taking them down by herself. Nobody in SWVA the last couple years had a realistic chance of making it to Richmond but Wise. So I ask you besides Wise whole starting 5 not going d1 what's the difference between them and what John Marshall is doing 

[Real Sasquatch]

5 minutes ago, Gridiron60 said:

He makes some great points about JM. I like the idea of going back to final four playoff series. I agree with him it was much more fun & drew in more people besides just team fans. 

Agree

[ghs73]

3 hours ago, Bcats said:

OK understood. SWVA does illegal stuff too it's just different caliber of athletes so nobody really cares. A big example Ollie and Charlie Carpenter you probably don't know either are siblings living under the same roof but both attend separate high schools about 40 minutes apart 

Not just different caliber of althete but wherever come from. 

[Elder statesman]

10 hours ago, Bcats said:

Let me say this I don't have a problem with Wise Central recruiting, I'm all about the youth but why do you think the same girls team in class 2 keep showing up to Richmond, they're getting some of the best talent transferring in. Jayden Carrico plays at Gate City she works her butt off all year long but chose not to transfer to Wise Central, she had no chance of taking them down by herself. Nobody in SWVA the last couple years had a realistic chance of making it to Richmond but Wise. So I ask you besides Wise whole starting 5 not going d1 what's the difference between them and what John Marshall is doing 

MaxPreps final class 2A rankings for girls has Wise Central #1, Ridgeview #2, and Gate City #3 proving once again that the Mountain 7 is the top conference in VA. If you take Wise out of the equation then Ridgeview probably has at least 2 state titles and Gate City possibly has 1-2.  The addition of the Union girls after losing Looney definitely put Wise in the drivers seat again this year and with the way Union played in the second half of the season, they would have been strong contenders had those girls stayed.  With that being said, Ridgeview may be the only team in SWVA that has not benefited from transfers, so hats off to those girls for what they accomplished this season.

[Gridiron60]

22 minutes ago, Elder statesman said:

MaxPreps final class 2A rankings for girls has Wise Central #1, Ridgeview #2, and Gate City #3 proving once again that the Mountain 7 is the top conference in VA. If you take Wise out of the equation then Ridgeview probably has at least 2 state titles and Gate City possibly has 1-2.  The addition of the Union girls after losing Looney definitely put Wise in the drivers seat again this year and with the way Union played in the second half of the season, they would have been strong contenders had those girls stayed.  With that being said, Ridgeview may be the only team in SWVA that has not benefited from transfers, so hats off to those girls for what they accomplished this season.

M7 is definitely a powerhouse for girls basketball in VA. With McAmis graduating, does another M7 team take the top spot next year? I’m not familiar enough with what each team has coming back but thought some of you M7 folks might have thoughts on it.