Williams announced retirement. New coach taking over the Spartans!

[tbgfan]

1 hour ago, SwvaOG said:

I'm I the only one missing Bandana's commentary?  Can we get him back?  Can't we all be friends?  🤣I would love to hear his insight on this.  

I miss him and Liam as well.  Two knowledgeable posters.  I would go as far in calling them pillars of this site.  They weren't the foundation.  That legacy belongs to Gman and Lance.  Someone has the vision and others build on it.  

[Mountain Football]

46 minutes ago, tbgfan said:

I miss him and Liam as well.  Two knowledgeable posters.  I would go as far in calling them pillars of this site.  They weren't the foundation.  That legacy belongs to Gman and Lance.  Someone has the vision and others build on it.  

Couldn't agree more!

[SWVAgridiron]

Congratulations to Jeff and I hope he enjoys retirement. I do believe I have narrowed it down to the top 3 candidates. Whoever takes over, needs to change some stuff up. Trying to keep everything the way it was 40+ years ago just isn’t working. I’m not saying we need to completely get rid of the single-wing because these kids have been running that offense since little league but why not spice it up a bit?

Even in Class A, strictly ground and pound is slowly fading as teams are airing it out more. The past 5-6 years we have waited until 3rd and long to attempt a pass, when teams know it’s coming. Look back at clips from 2011-2017. We weren’t above throwing it on first or second down and had success out of it. 

As far as talent goes, we have had talented kids as of recent, but overall team speed has declined over the years and it shows. We’ve had good backfields but nothing like Ricky Cook, Nathan Tanner, Brian Mann, Brett Whitlow, or Ryan Beidleman. But I have watched the recent Giles teams show that when they want to play, they could hang with most of the teams on our schedule until the 4th quarter. We need someone who is going to make strength and conditioning a priority so that we’re not getting wore out late in the games. That use to be Giles’ advantage. We were stronger, more conditioned, and slowly wore teams out. 

Williams, along with the other coaches leaving with him will be missed and I wish nothing but success for the new coach. No matter what, me and dad will be sitting at the 40 yard line blaring the horn and supporting whoever it is. GO SPARTANS!

 

[Gridiron60]

3 hours ago, tbgfan said:

I miss him and Liam as well.  Two knowledgeable posters.  I would go as far in calling them pillars of this site.  They weren't the foundation.  That legacy belongs to Gman and Lance.  Someone has the vision and others build on it.  

We need several folks back honestly. I believe in second chances well, at least on a sports board anyway. 

[Hokiebird7]

34 minutes ago, SWVAgridiron said:

Congratulations to Jeff and I hope he enjoys retirement. I do believe I have narrowed it down to the top 3 candidates. Whoever takes over, needs to change some stuff up. Trying to keep everything the way it was 40+ years ago just isn’t working. I’m not saying we need to completely get rid of the single-wing because these kids have been running that offense since little league but why not spice it up a bit?

Even in Class A, strictly ground and pound is slowly fading as teams are airing it out more. The past 5-6 years we have waited until 3rd and long to attempt a pass, when teams know it’s coming. Look back at clips from 2011-2017. We weren’t above throwing it on first or second down and had success out of it. 

As far as talent goes, we have had talented kids as of recent, but overall team speed has declined over the years and it shows. We’ve had good backfields but nothing like Ricky Cook, Nathan Tanner, Brian Mann, Brett Whitlow, or Ryan Beidleman. But I have watched the recent Giles teams show that when they want to play, they could hang with most of the teams on our schedule until the 4th quarter. We need someone who is going to make strength and conditioning a priority so that we’re not getting wore out late in the games. That use to be Giles’ advantage. We were stronger, more conditioned, and slowly wore teams out. 

Williams, along with the other coaches leaving with him will be missed and I wish nothing but success for the new coach. No matter what, me and dad will be sitting at the 40 yard line blaring the horn and supporting whoever it is. GO SPARTANS!

 

I do agree we have had some talented kids recently but what i.meant was the talent level as far as the team has been down compared to prior teams...but yes we've had some talented kids recently

[tornado99]

9 hours ago, NotJustin23 said:

I seen an interview one time talking about Giles Single Wing being so deadly largely in part because a lot of the schools success came when almost every offense in SWVA ran an under center type offense. Not saying that's true or not true but makes a lot of sense.  Much easier to prepare for now because teams see some form of shotgun style offense weekly.  Shotgun formations with misdirection is literally what most teams do now. Would have been a foreign affair for defenses in the 80's, 90's and early 2000's. Giles won a lot of games through the years against more talented teams because of that offense. There's still single wing success all over the country but just not at Giles. Williams single wing and Ragsdales doesn't even look the same. Running the play clock down to zero all the time (even when your behind) probably isn't a recipe for success either. Hopefully Giles finds their guy that will both run the single wing and be dedicated to the program.  Coaches can change a culture and Giles NEEDS that!!

I believe that I heard or read the same thing, which lead me also to compare to Richlands. 
That said, coaches can change a culture. This is where I believe the G-men have gotten right. As I said multiple times, the talent in that area has always been there, and is even more mobile nowadays. The coaches have brought the culture and the talent has come from both hallways and highways. I will admit recent additions and experience has lead to greater in game adjustments compared to others, but most in our area, not named Union they simply have an edge in talent. 

[tornado99]

I should expand to say that Union is one place high on culture, just maybe slightly lower than Graham on talent. According to Union posters, on strategy as well. 
 

I digress. Good luck to Williams and the Spartans. It’s always more interesting when they are good.

[SwvaOG]

20 hours ago, tbgfan said:

I miss him and Liam as well.  Two knowledgeable posters.  I would go as far in calling them pillars of this site.  They weren't the foundation.  That legacy belongs to Gman and Lance.  Someone has the vision and others build on it.  

Well, shit.  Who do I have to buy a beer for to make this happen?  

[Gridiron60]

11 hours ago, SwvaOG said:

Well, shit.  Who do I have to buy a beer for to make this happen?  

Liam had the best memes! 

[Dookthecook]

On 5/1/2025 at 4:11 PM, SWVAgridiron said:

Congratulations to Jeff and I hope he enjoys retirement. I do believe I have narrowed it down to the top 3 candidates. Whoever takes over, needs to change some stuff up. Trying to keep everything the way it was 40+ years ago just isn’t working. I’m not saying we need to completely get rid of the single-wing because these kids have been running that offense since little league but why not spice it up a bit?

Even in Class A, strictly ground and pound is slowly fading as teams are airing it out more. The past 5-6 years we have waited until 3rd and long to attempt a pass, when teams know it’s coming. Look back at clips from 2011-2017. We weren’t above throwing it on first or second down and had success out of it. 

As far as talent goes, we have had talented kids as of recent, but overall team speed has declined over the years and it shows. We’ve had good backfields but nothing like Ricky Cook, Nathan Tanner, Brian Mann, Brett Whitlow, or Ryan Beidleman. But I have watched the recent Giles teams show that when they want to play, they could hang with most of the teams on our schedule until the 4th quarter. We need someone who is going to make strength and conditioning a priority so that we’re not getting wore out late in the games. That use to be Giles’ advantage. We were stronger, more conditioned, and slowly wore teams out. 

Williams, along with the other coaches leaving with him will be missed and I wish nothing but success for the new coach. No matter what, me and dad will be sitting at the 40 yard line blaring the horn and supporting whoever it is. GO SPARTANS!

 

Sewin one wings loosen leeder.  Eye ol dook cook puddin two boggin n 💍.

Ha ha and hee hee! Ruby gal says know’n u knot honey 🐝 

 

[Dookthecook]

On 4/29/2025 at 11:22 PM, NotJustin23 said:

For the Williams did a great job crowd, here are irrefutable facts. In the last 7 years, he had 6 losing seasons. Set a GHS record for both points against and average points against in a season.  The last 7 years had a negative point differential which has Never happened in the History of Giles high school. Not just during the Ragsdale years but EVER. So it started well but ended in an absolute disaster. Giles has been getting their ass handed to them in the off-season for years and their record has reflected that. Williams let one of the most prominent programs in the entire state go to absolute crap. 

Me tinks u miss n sum thing. Jaws fit bol schedule muchn way to hard fer skewl dat n roll mint drop Muchily .  Tenk dats muchn  tissue.  
 

tank yer sun . Unk Vern at Narz sea fire two meddlin .  Vern sez nod on mere levy as dat ft chips dude Bideyman . 
 

u in may bee correck own few ideas but Willy per Vern not sow tissue 

 

 

 

[SWVAgridiron]

7 hours ago, Dookthecook said:

Sewin one wings loosen leeder.  Eye ol dook cook puddin two boggin n 💍.

Ha ha and hee hee! Ruby gal says know’n u knot honey 🐝 

 

I’m really not sure if I should agree or disagree with that statement as I cannot comprehend. I’ll just say thank you for your input.

[NotJustin23]

Was just thinking 🤔  Giles might not have won more than 5 games in the last 4 tears without outside talent. Guage fleeman (Narrows/Monroe), Gunter Dunford (Narrows), Hunter Moser (Monroe) Aaron Miller (Monroe), Jackson Parsell (Narrows) Joe Linkenhokier (Craig) Conner Price (Blacksburg)...etc etc etc These are kids that didn't even live in the Giles school district that played football at Giles. Ricky Cook (also an outsider) from Narrows made a huge impact. So Giles playing with just Giles talent would have been so much worse than the continuous losing seasons by the Spartans. Giles would have been the new Bland Co. without a lot of kids playing there that shouldn't have. 

[Dookthecook]

9 hours ago, NotJustin23 said:

Was just thinking 🤔  Giles might not have won more than 5 games in the last 4 tears without outside talent. Guage fleeman (Narrows/Monroe), Gunter Dunford (Narrows), Hunter Moser (Monroe) Aaron Miller (Monroe), Jackson Parsell (Narrows) Joe Linkenhokier (Craig) Conner Price (Blacksburg)...etc etc etc These are kids that didn't even live in the Giles school district that played football at Giles. Ricky Cook (also an outsider) from Narrows made a huge impact. So Giles playing with just Giles talent would have been so much worse than the continuous losing seasons by the Spartans. Giles would have been the new Bland Co. without a lot of kids playing there that shouldn't have. 

u seam'n berry hert and angree.  Led itt go, juz led itt go 

[Mountain Football]

11 hours ago, NotJustin23 said:

Was just thinking 🤔  Giles might not have won more than 5 games in the last 4 tears without outside talent. Guage fleeman (Narrows/Monroe), Gunter Dunford (Narrows), Hunter Moser (Monroe) Aaron Miller (Monroe), Jackson Parsell (Narrows) Joe Linkenhokier (Craig) Conner Price (Blacksburg)...etc etc etc These are kids that didn't even live in the Giles school district that played football at Giles. Ricky Cook (also an outsider) from Narrows made a huge impact. So Giles playing with just Giles talent would have been so much worse than the continuous losing seasons by the Spartans. Giles would have been the new Bland Co. without a lot of kids playing there that shouldn't have. 

If Williams is so bad, why did so many kids from outside the Giles area transfer to Giles?

[60minuteMan]

6 hours ago, Mountain Football said:

If Williams is so bad, why did so many kids from outside the Giles area transfer to Giles?

My guess is the players, and/or their parents, didn't realize till they got there, what the problem was. But they figured it out. I think it was year before last, the Giles Spartan football Facebook page, let all the seniors post a little section talking about their football years at Giles. Don't remember the total number of seniors that year, maybe about 10. But not a single one of those guys mentioned Coach Williams. That told me plenty. And the fact that, to my knowledge, only one player that ever played for Williams while he was head coach, ever came back to coach with him at Giles, tells me there's not a lot of respect there for the guy. And he only stayed one year. 

[NotJustin23]

9 hours ago, Mountain Football said:

If Williams is so bad, why did so many kids from outside the Giles area transfer to Giles?

Lol.....maybe it wasn't for football?? You don't really think kids transferred to play football for Williams do you?

[Hokiebird7]

What was it for then? I'm curious

[NotJustin23]

2 hours ago, Hokiebird7 said:

What was it for then? I'm curious

You're not serious right? Kids go to different schools for all kinds of various reasons 

[Real Sasquatch]

2 minutes ago, NotJustin23 said:

You're not serious right? Kids go to different schools for all kinds of various reasons 

Exactly and Giles Co. is not that far from Blacksburg, which is constantly growing.  I'm sure they have folks moving into Giles Co. that work in Blacksburg or Christiansburg.

[Hokiebird7]

25 minutes ago, NotJustin23 said:

You're not serious right? Kids go to different schools for all kinds of various reasons 

Why did your son go to Giles was my question

[Hokiebird7]

22 minutes ago, Real Sasquatch said:

Exactly and Giles Co. is not that far from Blacksburg, which is constantly growing.  I'm sure they have folks moving into Giles Co. that work in Blacksburg or Christiansburg.

Yeah but it was said they didn't live in giles co....which is true I guess..

[NotJustin23]

23 hours ago, Hokiebird7 said:

Why did your son go to Giles was my question

Ya wanna know what color my underwear is too? My family decisions doesn't need discussed on the internet nor any of your business honestly. He's home from college for the summer so if you see him around you can ask him. Hes both nice amd approachable. He's just working, lifting, and trying to get ready for his 2nd year of college football. You should come support him for a game this season as he is one of your own 

[Real Sasquatch]

15 minutes ago, NotJustin23 said:

Ya wanna know what color my underwear is too? My family decisions doesn't need discussed on the internet nor any of your business honestly. He's home from college for the summer so if you see him around you can ask him. Hes both nice amd approachable. He's just working, lifting, and trying to get ready for his 2nd year of college football. You should come support him for a game this season as he is one of your own 

Exactly, it's nobody's business but your own.

[Hokiebird7]

18 minutes ago, NotJustin23 said:

Ya wanna know what color my underwear is too? My family decisions doesn't need discussed on the internet nor any of your business honestly. He's home from college for the summer so if you see him around you can ask him. Hes both nice amd approachable. He's just working, lifting, and trying to get ready for his 2nd year of college football. You should come support him for a game this season as he is one of your own 

Just a question....chill dude

And you're right it's none of my business...I was just asking