Graham32 Posted May 15 Report Posted May 15 Hearing Sam Wright new HC for the Spartans…anyone else hearing anything? Quote
NotJustin23 Posted May 16 Author Report Posted May 16 1 hour ago, Graham32 said: Hearing Sam Wright new HC for the Spartans…anyone else hearing anything? Easiest and most convenient move by Giles as most expected...... Quote
Graham32 Posted May 16 Report Posted May 16 17 minutes ago, NotJustin23 said: Easiest and most convenient move by Giles as most expected...... Will he stay with the single wing or will he or whoever it is go in another direction. Quote
NotJustin23 Posted May 16 Author Report Posted May 16 That pick in a coach would be Giles just being satisfied and continuing the status quo imo. The entire good Ole boy coaching staff would stay in place and continue doing what they have been. Not a chance they drop the single wing if that's who they end up hiring. Hokiebird7 1 Quote
Graham32 Posted May 16 Report Posted May 16 Just now, NotJustin23 said: That pick in a coach would be Giles just being satisfied and continuing the status quo imo. The entire good Ole boy coaching staff would stay in place and continue doing what they have been. Not a chance they drop the single wing if that's who they end up hiring. True NotJustin23 1 Quote
NotJustin23 Posted May 16 Author Report Posted May 16 2 minutes ago, Graham32 said: True Giles, in all honesty have played horrible football for the past 7 seasons so why hire someone to take over the program that was there as a part of it the entire time? Giles has a chance to revamp the program now. An internal hire could be just an extension of the program they have been recently. Not even sure Sam has the football pedigree which most schools might look at in a hire? Played for a terrible program all through H.S, didn't learn football playing in college, and to my knowledge has never been a head coach. All things considered....... Hokiebird7 1 Quote
Graham32 Posted May 16 Report Posted May 16 12 hours ago, NotJustin23 said: Giles, in all honesty have played horrible football for the past 7 seasons so why hire someone to take over the program that was there as a part of it the entire time? Giles has a chance to revamp the program now. An internal hire could be just an extension of the program they have been recently. Not even sure Sam has the football pedigree which most schools might look at in a hire? Played for a terrible program all through H.S, didn't learn football playing in college, and to my knowledge has never been a head coach. All things considered....... Giles will do Giles things…so if it’s Sam don’t be surprised. NotJustin23 1 Quote
NotJustin23 Posted May 17 Author Report Posted May 17 9 hours ago, Graham32 said: Giles will do Giles things…so if it’s Sam don’t be surprised. Nobody will be. Case in point, Giles is no longer a football school and the powers to be don't hire coaches anymore just to win football games with the exception of a few schools. Its nice to show up at kickoff though and find a seat. Wasn't always the case. Graham32 1 Quote
Hokiebird7 Posted May 17 Report Posted May 17 Who should we hire? Just curious of some names we should be considering Quote
60minuteMan Posted May 17 Report Posted May 17 1 hour ago, Hokiebird7 said: Who should we hire? Just curious of some names we should be considering let's just flip that back to you. Who do think we should be considering. Give a couple names on your wish list, then a few names on your realistic wish list. Quote
Graham32 Posted May 17 Report Posted May 17 2 hours ago, Hokiebird7 said: Who should we hire? Just curious of some names we should be considering IMO, I think Giles should try to find someone who is willing to take the program in a different direction. Yes, I know there is tradition with the single wing but sometimes you just have to make a change. Change in the culture could really be beneficial. NotJustin23 1 Quote
Hokiebird7 Posted May 17 Report Posted May 17 35 minutes ago, 60minuteMan said: let's just flip that back to you. Who do think we should be considering. Give a couple names on your wish list, then a few names on your realistic wish list. I asked the question...just wondering who we should set our radar on since the current frontrunner candidate don't cut the mustard according to most Quote
Gridiron60 Posted May 17 Report Posted May 17 30 minutes ago, Hokiebird7 said: I asked the question...just wondering who we should set our radar on since the current frontrunner candidate don't cut the mustard according to most Is the Wright guy from Giles? Is he a school employee? I don’t know much about Giles but maybe they didn’t have a long list of candidates & they’re going with the one they know who will stick around. Quote
Hokiebird7 Posted May 17 Report Posted May 17 5 minutes ago, Gridiron60 said: Is the Wright guy from Giles? Is he a school employee? I don’t know much about Giles but maybe they didn’t have a long list of candidates & they’re going with the one they know who will stick around. Yes he works for the school...and you made my point....people say we should get someone that's a good coach and Wright may be in time but if you dont have the candidates apply you just choose from the ones that do apply....getting the right assistants are key IMO Quote
60minuteMan Posted May 17 Report Posted May 17 31 minutes ago, Hokiebird7 said: Yes he works for the school...and you made my point....people say we should get someone that's a good coach and Wright may be in time but if you dont have the candidates apply you just choose from the ones that do apply....getting the right assistants are key IMO Can you give me an example, in this area, where a coach has left a struggling program, going through a down cycle, and had an assistant promoted to take over, that the new first time HC was able to turn the program around? Dozens of examples of struggling programs being turned around by bringing in a new head coach. And it's Jeff William's last dagger in the back of Spartan football, that he waited to crunch time to announce his retirement. Could of done it back in November. NotJustin23 1 Quote
Gridiron60 Posted May 17 Report Posted May 17 6 hours ago, 60minuteMan said: Can you give me an example, in this area, where a coach has left a struggling program, going through a down cycle, and had an assistant promoted to take over, that the new first time HC was able to turn the program around? Dozens of examples of struggling programs being turned around by bringing in a new head coach. And it's Jeff William's last dagger in the back of Spartan football, that he waited to crunch time to announce his retirement. Could have done it back in November. Tony Palmer was an assistant at Graham before becoming head coach. Graham was definitely not headed in the right direction before he became head coach. It’s not unheard of for an assistant to take over and turn a program around.I understand your point also. Many promoted assistants have not lifted programs out of the abyss. Graham32 1 Quote
Gridiron60 Posted May 17 Report Posted May 17 6 hours ago, Hokiebird7 said: Yes he works for the school...and you made my point....people say we should get someone that's a good coach and Wright may be in time but if you dont have the candidates apply you just choose from the ones that do apply....getting the right assistants are key IMO Exactly, the right assistants can make a huge difference in a program. Graham is a perfect example. Palmer has surrounded himself with assistants that know football and get the job done. Quote
Hokiebird7 Posted May 17 Report Posted May 17 7 hours ago, 60minuteMan said: Can you give me an example, in this area, where a coach has left a struggling program, going through a down cycle, and had an assistant promoted to take over, that the new first time HC was able to turn the program around? Dozens of examples of struggling programs being turned around by bringing in a new head coach. And it's Jeff William's last dagger in the back of Spartan football, that he waited to crunch time to announce his retirement. Could of done it back in November. Good lord just answer the original question i asked. And do you know the reason Williams waited to announce it? No obviously you don't NotJustin23 1 Quote
60minuteMan Posted May 17 Report Posted May 17 2 hours ago, Hokiebird7 said: Good lord just answer the original question i asked. And do you know the reason Williams waited to announce it? No obviously you don't I'll try to keep this simple, so even you can understand. I don't have a preference in who we hire. I don't know every coach in the US that is looking to move on, move up. My preference is to be able to have a fairly long, extensive, drawn out period of taking applications and conducting interviews. Williams took that luxury away from us. 99% of the localized coaches looking to move up or move on have already accepted positions elsewhere. I was told, by somebody that should know, at our playoff game in Wytheville, that Jeff told him that week that he wasn't coming back next year. If that's so, Williams did a major disservice to the program by waiting till May. Now answer my question. NotJustin23 1 Quote
Hokiebird7 Posted May 17 Report Posted May 17 You have no idea what all went on...so I want nick saban...he isn't coaching...does that answer your question? Now since you have a hard time picking names why don't you throw some out there NotJustin23 1 Quote
Pickett Posted May 17 Report Posted May 17 I am not familiar or know Coach Wright but I have alot of respect for Giles Football and Coach Williams. If this young man is a product of this program I feel he has a good chance of being successful. He will of course have to bring his own skill set and talents to the table. I hope he and the new coach at Galax do well. Give them some time. Region C needs a strong Galax and Giles. NotJustin23 1 Quote
NotJustin23 Posted May 17 Author Report Posted May 17 4 hours ago, Hokiebird7 said: You have no idea what all went on...so I want nick saban...he isn't coaching...does that answer your question? Now since you have a hard time picking names why don't you throw some out there What difference does it make? We could all make a wish list of people who obviously didn't apply. Likely Williams planned it this way to ensure the next good ol boy got hired. Sam is obviously gonna get the position and nobody even said he wouldn't do a good job. He's definitely a step up from Williams and it'll show his first year. Some of the current staff/assistant coaches have said hes probably not head coach material so we'll see in time. He definitely needs to get some thicker skin and if he's gonna take that position though. Criticism comes with the territory and whoever should focus on winning a damn football game instead of what's said on this forum. Hokiebird7 1 Quote
SWVAgridiron Posted May 18 Report Posted May 18 Going to change the subject a little.. Jeremy Haymore’s book “The Bandana Express” is now available for preorder. This book is based off the 1980 Giles state championship team. Here is a link to Amazon if you’d like to preorder! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F8LRTYJ5?ref=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cp_ud_dp_RQPX7FP1WFHS28NCHEEK&ref_=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cp_ud_dp_RQPX7FP1WFHS28NCHEEK&social_share=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cp_ud_dp_RQPX7FP1WFHS28NCHEEK&bestFormat=true&previewDoh=1&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwKW4EJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHnV4qhbieDODE-kwUEwDmyGoQbFoyW6jqv1ZKOoHu_8zMYvOQPjd0OZa7I_7_aem_R_rDUDqN_TKBtnv7qPwSzw redtiger and NotJustin23 2 Quote
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