Union_Fan Posted October 18 Author Report Posted October 18 1 hour ago, VHSLhelper said: wacha need? Nottoway/Randolph-Henry Stonewall Jackon/Park View-sterling Quote
SWVAgridiron Posted October 18 Report Posted October 18 6 minutes ago, Union_Fan said: Nottoway/Randolph-Henry Stonewall Jackon/Park View-sterling Park View and Nottoway won Union_Fan 1 Quote
KW23 Posted October 25 Report Posted October 25 On 10/16/2025 at 10:22 AM, Union_Fan said: 1D doesn't have nearly the drama at the top. Eastside will cruise to #1. Rye Cove will finish #2 or #3. Chilhowie, Holston, Rural Retreat and possibly Northwood battling for #2-#6. Massey doesn't like Northwood at all. For the purpose of PPs, I am including Tri-Cities Christian into the equation even though the "Official" 1D PP numbers have some phantom points mixed in for Hurley and Twin Valley. Chilhowie wins out. Twin Springs/Thomas Walker may very well determine the #8 seed. Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Eastside 10-0 252 25.2 02.) Chilhowie 9-1 242 24.2 03.) Rye Cove 7-3 206 20.6 04.) Rural Retreat 6-4 191 19.1 05.) Honaker 5-5 186 18.6 06.) Holston 6-4 173 17.3 07.) Northwood 6-4 168 16.8 08.) Thomas Walker 5-5 165 16.5 09.) Hurley 6-4 156 15.6 Rye Cove wins out. Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Eastside 10-0 252 25.2 02.) Rye Cove 8-2 225 22.5 03.) Chilhowie 8-2 224 22.4 04.) Rural Retreat 6-4 190 19 05.) Honaker 5-5 186 18.6 06.) Holston 6-4 172 17.2 07.) Northwood 6-4 169 16.9 08.) Twin Springs 6-4 167 16.7 09.) Hurley 6-4 156 15.6 What if RR wins out. Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Eastside 10-0 252 25.2 02.) Rye Cove 8-2 223 22.3 03.) Rural Retreat 7-3 208 20.8 04.) Chilhowie 7-3 207 20.7 05.) Honaker 5-5 186 18.6 06.) Holston 6-4 172 17.2 07.) Northwood 6-4 169 16.9 08.) Twin Springs 6-4 167 16.7 09.) Hurley 6-4 156 15.6 What if RR wins out and Chilhowie beats RC. Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Eastside 10-0 252 25.2 02.) Chilhowie 8-2 225 22.5 03.) Rural Retreat 7-3 210 21 04.) Rye Cove 7-3 205 20.5 05.) Honaker 5-5 186 18.6 06.) Holston 6-4 173 17.3 07.) Northwood 6-4 170 17 08.) Twin Springs 6-4 166 16.6 09.) Hurley 6-4 156 15.6 Since we know now it's 1. Eastside 2. Chilhowie 3. Rye cove... Can you do an updated prediction on where rural retreat could fall....since these scenarios didn't consider them to lose to Northwood which we just did. If our qb ever gets back we got a real shot but without him on offense and deefense our team is hot garbage next year we will be really bad unless we go to transfer portal lol Quote
Union_Fan Posted October 25 Author Report Posted October 25 1 minute ago, KW23 said: Since we know now it's 1. Eastside 2. Chilhowie 3. Rye cove... Can you do an updated prediction on where rural retreat could fall....since these scenarios didn't consider them to lose to Northwood which we just did. If our qb ever gets back we got a real shot but without him on offense and deefense our team is hot garbage next year we will be really bad unless we go to transfer portal lol Yep. I'll do another round this week. Was going to do one last week, but pretty much every game went as expected, so projections stayed the same. Quote
KW23 Posted October 25 Report Posted October 25 Appreciate you...thanks I don't feel like researching how to do it like Union_Fan 1 Quote
Union_Fan Posted October 25 Author Report Posted October 25 For 2D. Union is locked in at #1 even if they lose to Abingdon. Lee is locked in at #8 even if they lose to Battle. GC/Ridgeview will play for 2nd. Loser gets 3, 4 or possibly even 5th. Lebanon most likely 3/4. Graham in at 4/5. VHS and Richlands most likely 6 and 7. Central, Tazewell, Battle and Marion are out barring a miracle. Games to watch in this scenario... Central/Grundy, DB/Science Hill Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Union 10-0 278 27.8 02.) Ridgeview 9-1 252 25.2 03.) Lebanon 8-2 229 22.9 04.) Gate City 7-3 228 22.8 05.) Graham 7-3 228 22.8 06.) Va High 7-3 213 21.3 07.) Richlands 6-4 195 19.5 08.) Lee 4-6 168 16.8 09.) Tazewell 2-8 147 14.7 If Union loses to Abingdon, this actually helps GC. Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Union 9-1 262 26.2 02.) Ridgeview 9-1 253 25.3 03.) Gate City 7-3 229 22.9 04.) Lebanon 8-2 228 22.8 05.) Graham 7-3 227 22.7 06.) Va High 7-3 213 21.3 07.) Richlands 6-4 197 19.7 08.) Lee 4-6 168 16.8 09.) Tazewell 2-8 146 14.6 GC over Ridgeview. Games to watch... Holston/RR, Honaker/Northwood Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Union 10-0 278 27.8 02.) Gate City 8-2 247 24.7 03.) Ridgeview 8-2 234 23.4 04.) Lebanon 8-2 229 22.9 05.) Graham 7-3 228 22.8 06.) Va High 7-3 213 21.3 07.) Richlands 6-4 196 19.6 08.) Lee 4-6 168 16.8 09.) Tazewell 2-8 147 14.7 GC over Ridgeview. VHS over Lebanon. Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Union 10-0 276 27.6 02.) Gate City 8-2 247 24.7 03.) Ridgeview 8-2 236 23.6 04.) Va High 8-2 231 23.1 05.) Graham 7-3 228 22.8 06.) Lebanon 7-3 209 20.9 07.) Richlands 6-4 196 19.6 08.) Lee 4-6 168 16.8 09.) Tazewell 2-8 147 14.7 Ridgeview over GC. VHS over Lebanon. Games to watch in this scenario... Central/Grundy, DB/Science Hill Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Union 10-0 276 27.6 02.) Ridgeview 9-1 254 25.4 03.) Va High 8-2 231 23.1 04.) Gate City 7-3 228 22.8 05.) Graham 7-3 228 22.8 06.) Lebanon 7-3 209 20.9 07.) Richlands 6-4 195 19.5 08.) Lee 4-6 168 16.8 09.) Tazewell 2-8 147 14.7 10.) Central-Wise 2-8 144 14.4 11.) John Battle 1-9 137 13.7 12.) Marion 0-10 114 11.4 Graham-VT Fan 1 Quote
Union_Fan Posted October 25 Author Report Posted October 25 For 2C, it's Glenvar and everyone else. Gretna is looking like #2 unless they lose to both Appo and Altavista. Massey has Altavista as the favorite as of now. If Gretna beats Appo but loses to Altavista and Radford wins out. Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Glenvar 10-0 268 26.8 02.) Gretna 8-2 243 24.3 03.) Floyd Co 7-3 226 22.6 04.) Radford 6-4 214 21.4 05.) Appomattox 6-4 207 20.7 06.) James River-B 5-5 194 19.4 07.) Dan River 5-5 180 18 08.) Nelson Co 5-5 173 17.3 09.) Patrick Co 3-7 165 16.5 Appo and Radford both win out. Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Glenvar 10-0 268 26.8 02.) Floyd Co 7-3 226 22.6 03.) Gretna 7-3 226 22.6 04.) Appomattox 7-3 225 22.5 05.) Radford 6-4 214 21.4 06.) James River-B 5-5 194 19.4 07.) Dan River 5-5 180 18 08.) Nelson Co 5-5 173 17.3 09.) Patrick Co 3-7 165 16.5 Appo loses to Gretna. Radford loses to Floyd. Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Glenvar 10-0 268 26.8 02.) Gretna 8-2 243 24.3 03.) Floyd Co 8-2 242 24.2 04.) Appomattox 6-4 207 20.7 05.) Radford 5-5 196 19.6 06.) James River-B 5-5 194 19.4 07.) Dan River 5-5 180 18 08.) Nelson Co 5-5 173 17.3 09.) Patrick Co 3-7 165 16.5 Quote
Union_Fan Posted October 25 Author Report Posted October 25 There's definitely a mess brewing in 1D. So many ways these games can go. Add to that mix, the miscalculating of TCC. Top 4 win out. RR loses their remaining games. Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Eastside 10-0 244 24.4 02.) Chilhowie 9-1 238 23.8 03.) Rye Cove 7-3 209 20.9 04.) Honaker 6-4 201 20.1 05.) Holston 7-3 187 18.7 06.) Northwood 7-3 184 18.4 07.) Twin Springs 6-4 171 17.1 08.) Thomas Walker 4-6 148 14.8 09.) Hurley 5-5 144 14.4 Holston over Chilhowie Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Eastside 10-0 242 24.2 02.) Chilhowie 8-2 220 22 03.) Rye Cove 7-3 208 20.8 04.) Holston 8-2 206 20.6 05.) Honaker 6-4 202 20.2 06.) Northwood 7-3 184 18.4 07.) Twin Springs 6-4 171 17.1 08.) Thomas Walker 4-6 148 14.8 09.) Hurley 5-5 145 14.5 Holston over Chilhowie, but loses to RR Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Eastside 10-0 244 24.4 02.) Chilhowie 8-2 221 22.1 03.) Rye Cove 7-3 208 20.8 04.) Honaker 6-4 202 20.2 05.) Holston 7-3 192 19.2 06.) Northwood 7-3 185 18.5 07.) Twin Springs 6-4 171 17.1 08.) Rural Retreat 4-6 159 15.9 09.) Thomas Walker 4-6 148 14.8 Holston and Honaker lose out. Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Eastside 10-0 248 24.8 02.) Chilhowie 9-1 238 23.8 03.) Rye Cove 7-3 205 20.5 04.) Northwood 8-2 201 20.1 05.) Holston 6-4 174 17.4 06.) Rural Retreat 5-5 173 17.3 07.) Twin Springs 6-4 172 17.2 08.) Honaker 4-6 168 16.8 09.) Thomas Walker 4-6 148 14.8 RR wins out. Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Eastside 10-0 248 24.8 02.) Chilhowie 9-1 238 23.8 03.) Rye Cove 7-3 205 20.5 04.) Northwood 8-2 201 20.1 05.) Holston 6-4 174 17.4 06.) Rural Retreat 5-5 173 17.3 07.) Twin Springs 6-4 172 17.2 08.) Honaker 4-6 168 16.8 09.) Thomas Walker 4-6 148 14.8 If RR wins one of their two remaining games, they'll be in at #8. Honaker and Holston are in even if they lose their last 2. TW has to win out to get in. TS has to win one of their last 2 to get in. KW23 1 Quote
Union_Fan Posted October 25 Author Report Posted October 25 For 1C. Not so clear cut here either. Craig goes undefeated. Giles over GW. Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Craig Co 10-0 238 23.8 02.) Giles 8-2 209 20.9 03.) Grayson Co 6-4 201 20.1 04.) George Wythe 6-4 186 18.6 05.) Parry McCluer 6-4 164 16.4 06.) Narrows 3-7 157 15.7 07.) Bath Co 5-4 138 15.33333 08.) Auburn 5-5 141 14.1 09.) Fort Chiswell 2-8 124 12.4 Craig goes undefeated. GW over Giles. Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Craig Co 10-0 238 23.8 02.) George Wythe 7-3 204 20.4 03.) Grayson Co 6-4 200 20 04.) Giles 7-3 192 19.2 05.) Parry McCluer 6-4 164 16.4 06.) Narrows 3-7 156 15.6 07.) Bath Co 5-4 138 15.33333 08.) Auburn 5-5 141 14.1 09.) Fort Chiswell 2-8 124 12.4 Narrows over Craig. GW over Giles. Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Craig Co 9-1 224 22.4 02.) George Wythe 7-3 204 20.4 03.) Grayson Co 6-4 200 20 04.) Giles 7-3 194 19.4 05.) Narrows 4-6 176 17.6 06.) Parry McCluer 6-4 164 16.4 07.) Bath Co 5-4 139 15.44444 08.) Auburn 5-5 141 14.1 09.) Fort Chiswell 2-8 124 12.4 Narrows over Craig. Giles over GW. Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Craig Co 9-1 224 22.4 02.) Giles 8-2 211 21.1 03.) Grayson Co 6-4 201 20.1 04.) George Wythe 6-4 186 18.6 05.) Narrows 4-6 177 17.7 06.) Parry McCluer 6-4 164 16.4 07.) Bath Co 5-4 139 15.44444 08.) Auburn 5-5 141 14.1 09.) Fort Chiswell 2-8 124 12.4 Narrows wins out. Giles over GW. Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Craig Co 9-1 223 22.3 02.) Giles 8-2 213 21.3 03.) Grayson Co 6-4 201 20.1 04.) Narrows 5-5 192 19.2 05.) George Wythe 6-4 186 18.6 06.) Parry McCluer 6-4 163 16.3 07.) Auburn 5-5 141 14.1 08.) Bath Co 4-5 124 13.77778 09.) Fort Chiswell 2-8 124 12.4 Narrows wins out. GW over Giles. Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Craig Co 9-1 223 22.3 02.) George Wythe 7-3 204 20.4 03.) Grayson Co 6-4 200 20 04.) Giles 7-3 196 19.6 05.) Narrows 5-5 191 19.1 06.) Parry McCluer 6-4 163 16.3 07.) Auburn 5-5 141 14.1 08.) Bath Co 4-5 124 13.77778 09.) Fort Chiswell 2-8 124 12.4 Quote
Mountain Football Posted October 26 Report Posted October 26 Thanks for taking the time to do these. I always enjoyed seeing the different scenarios. Union_Fan 1 Quote
Football is Cool Posted October 26 Report Posted October 26 2 hours ago, Union_Fan said: There's definitely a mess brewing in 1D. So many ways these games can go. Add to that mix, the miscalculating of TCC. Top 4 win out. RR loses their remaining games. Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Eastside 10-0 244 24.4 02.) Chilhowie 9-1 238 23.8 03.) Rye Cove 7-3 209 20.9 04.) Honaker 6-4 201 20.1 05.) Holston 7-3 187 18.7 06.) Northwood 7-3 184 18.4 07.) Twin Springs 6-4 171 17.1 08.) Thomas Walker 4-6 148 14.8 09.) Hurley 5-5 144 14.4 Holston over Chilhowie Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Eastside 10-0 242 24.2 02.) Chilhowie 8-2 220 22 03.) Rye Cove 7-3 208 20.8 04.) Holston 8-2 206 20.6 05.) Honaker 6-4 202 20.2 06.) Northwood 7-3 184 18.4 07.) Twin Springs 6-4 171 17.1 08.) Thomas Walker 4-6 148 14.8 09.) Hurley 5-5 145 14.5 Holston over Chilhowie, but loses to RR Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Eastside 10-0 244 24.4 02.) Chilhowie 8-2 221 22.1 03.) Rye Cove 7-3 208 20.8 04.) Honaker 6-4 202 20.2 05.) Holston 7-3 192 19.2 06.) Northwood 7-3 185 18.5 07.) Twin Springs 6-4 171 17.1 08.) Rural Retreat 4-6 159 15.9 09.) Thomas Walker 4-6 148 14.8 Holston and Honaker lose out. Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Eastside 10-0 248 24.8 02.) Chilhowie 9-1 238 23.8 03.) Rye Cove 7-3 205 20.5 04.) Northwood 8-2 201 20.1 05.) Holston 6-4 174 17.4 06.) Rural Retreat 5-5 173 17.3 07.) Twin Springs 6-4 172 17.2 08.) Honaker 4-6 168 16.8 09.) Thomas Walker 4-6 148 14.8 RR wins out. Rank Team Record Total Points Rating 01.) Eastside 10-0 248 24.8 02.) Chilhowie 9-1 238 23.8 03.) Rye Cove 7-3 205 20.5 04.) Northwood 8-2 201 20.1 05.) Holston 6-4 174 17.4 06.) Rural Retreat 5-5 173 17.3 07.) Twin Springs 6-4 172 17.2 08.) Honaker 4-6 168 16.8 09.) Thomas Walker 4-6 148 14.8 If RR wins one of their two remaining games, they'll be in at #8. Honaker and Holston are in even if they lose their last 2. TW has to win out to get in. TS has to win one of their last 2 to get in. Is it possible to compile a list of 2D and 1D already eliminated teams? as always thanks for all you do Quote
Union_Fan Posted October 26 Author Report Posted October 26 11 minutes ago, Football is Cool said: Is it possible to compile a list of 2D and 1D already eliminated teams? as always thanks for all you do HUGE difference between mathematically and realistically, but these are the only teams mathematically eliminated from the 2025 playoffs. 2D - Marion 1D - Castlewood and Twin Valley Quote
BigWinners Posted October 26 Report Posted October 26 3 minutes ago, Queue said: What is that Gate City/Graham tiebreak?? Id assume record or record v VA or 2D teams. Quote
Gridiron60 Posted October 26 Report Posted October 26 5 minutes ago, Queue said: What is that Gate City/Graham tiebreak?? I believe Graham would get it because of opponent not finishing season. Seems like somewhere in a thread it was posted in regards to Glenvar and having Galax as opponent. If they were tied with Union, Glenvar would get the nod because opponent didn’t play full schedule . (I think, lol and could be wrong) Quote
Union_Fan Posted October 26 Author Report Posted October 26 11 minutes ago, Queue said: What is that Gate City/Graham tiebreak?? I think Graham would win tie breaker (g) or (h), concerning highest avg rating of opponents. Quote
Union_Fan Posted October 26 Author Report Posted October 26 That's assuming that Galax doesn't factor in. If so, it's still Graham. Quote
Gridiron60 Posted October 26 Report Posted October 26 9 minutes ago, Union_Fan said: That's assuming that Galax doesn't factor in. If so, it's still Graham. Graham probably wishing they had taken no contest. I’d say Giles, Grayson, & George Wythe are taking no contest. Weren’t those the last three opponents Galax had left when they cancelled their season? A forfeit from Galax is practically worthless as far as PowerPoints. Quote
Hokiebird7 Posted October 26 Report Posted October 26 4 minutes ago, Gridiron60 said: Graham probably wishing they had taken no contest. I’d say Giles, Grayson, & George Wythe are taking no contest. Weren’t those the last three opponents Galax had left when they cancelled their season? A forfeit from Galax is practically worthless as far as PowerPoints. I would hope we would take a no contest but with the people making decisions for us who knows...is it up to each team to decide? Quote
Union_Fan Posted October 26 Author Report Posted October 26 12 minutes ago, Gridiron60 said: Graham probably wishing they had taken no contest. I’d say Giles, Grayson, & George Wythe are taking no contest. Weren’t those the last three opponents Galax had left when they cancelled their season? A forfeit from Galax is practically worthless as far as PowerPoints. Graham would get the same points from Galax as they get from Marion this year...bare minimum. Quote
Gridiron60 Posted October 26 Report Posted October 26 19 minutes ago, Hokiebird7 said: I would hope we would take a no contest but with the people making decisions for us who knows...is it up to each team to decide? Someone more knowledgeable than me would have to answer that but I would presume each team can decide if they want a forfeit or no contest. Dividing by 9 would definitely be more beneficial to Galax opponents I would think. It may be too late for Graham to get no contest but not for the other G schools, lol. Quote
Real Sasquatch Posted October 26 Report Posted October 26 17 minutes ago, Union_Fan said: Graham would get the same points from Galax as they get from Marion this year...bare minimum. At that early point in the season and not foreseeing what Galax was going to decide. It would have been a tough decision to take a forfeit or a no contest. There's no way to guarantee what Graham would average over 18.0 at that point, or if Galax would play more or possibly win a game or 2. Hokiebird7 and Gridiron60 2 Quote
Union_Fan Posted October 26 Author Report Posted October 26 22 minutes ago, Real Sasquatch said: At that early point in the season and not foreseeing what Galax was going to decide. It would have been a tough decision to take a forfeit or a no contest. There's no way to guarantee what Graham would average over 18.0 at that point, or if Galax would play more or possibly win a game or 2. It's a gamble. No doubt. The worst part isn't the point issue, but rather the lost reps. At this point, it is what it is. Graham will be just fine. Real Sasquatch 1 Quote
Real Sasquatch Posted October 26 Report Posted October 26 1 hour ago, Union_Fan said: It's a gamble. No doubt. The worst part isn't the point issue, but rather the lost reps. At this point, it is what it is. Graham will be just fine. Well, even if they had a "home playoff game"....it would have to be somewhere else this year, anyway. Might lose out on some gate money though, that part sucks. However, there are some benefits to traveling too. Don't have to hire refs, get volunteers for the gates, concessions,...etc...(just trying to look at the glass half full). Union_Fan 1 Quote
bigunionfan_ Posted October 27 Report Posted October 27 Is there any chance that Ridgeview could drop to a 4 seed? Or are they locked to at least get a 3? Quote
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