beaver90

Bluefield is losing a lot this year, and with all due respect to Albert, Hutchinson, and whoever, they're not going to nearly have the talent to carry this team next year. They're losing all of their backs, most of their line, most of their defense, and of course their kicker and punter (which they'll see next year will hurt them a lot more than they think). So if you were to ask me, I honestly wouldn't even place them as a playoff team next year. They'll be way too inexperienced. However, due to the declining level of talent in WV (as this year certainly showed - I mean, when was the last time Graham, Princeton, Woodrow, and Oak Hill were ALL that bad?!) I think Blfd may have a chance to squeak in the playoffs. But thats a big if. If the talent is as bad as it was this year, they'll certainly have a chance.

I agree with you definitely on that last part - we are state champs and thats all that matters - I was simply just starting a discussion, thats all. I'm from Bluefield.. don't think I'm mad b/c we won a state title.. haha. I still disagree with pee wee about the best overall team thing, but of course thats just opinion (even though every one else who has posted agrees with me). And of course its hard to compare teams now to the past b/c of the different styles, different coaching, etc. Its like comparing Steeler teams of this year to the 70's and so on.. everyone is going to think differently. If you supposedly watched every game of Sarver, Sudduth and Coeburn, you would know Sarver's and Sudduth's mechanics were much better. Its like when I hear the Tom Brady/Peyton Manning comparison. Brady has won titles and Manning has not - so therefore Brady is a better QB. You put the Patriot's D with Manning .. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! Brady is Brady b/c of his defense. The Colts D this year is dreaful, and he still puts up the numbers he does. But anyway, I will say this year's team had the best overall coaching of any Beaver squad I have ever seen. The coaching staff from last year back until about 2000 was absolutely terrible, especially the offense (aka Sizemore and Boyles). Even as smart as Boyles was, any one who has played under him knows how he is and knows he needs to be on a college campus doing what he wants to do. Its as simple as that. And also, about the '99 team giving up all those points to Liberty-Harrison, how about Nate Sowers doing what he did to Beaver's D this year? They might have only scored 28 points, but he shredded their D, just as Patterson (the QB) did for Liberty-Harrison against Blfd. So the day that a secondary of Mike Davis, David Perdue, and whoever else is better than Donald, Tremayne, and J.J. is a day I guess I'll never see.

I commend you for supporting your team, but as Sources said, you think this year's team could beat EVERY one of those teams?! Thats absolutely insane, and I thought about numerous people last night that I left off of my original post, including Eric Krauss, Eric Gates, Troy Powers, Brandon Williams, and Paul (not Shaun) Beasley. To think any of this year's team could muscle with those linemen from the past is just unrealistic. And obviously you know nothing about Beaver football when you said this year's D was better than '99 b/c of how many points were given up in the state title game, b/c in that game, Beaver was missing two of its best players in J.J. Patton and Mike Williams, both of whom were offensive starters as well. As to your post about Rusty being a better QB than Jarrod, I could understand your reasoning (if you had any) but if you watched both of those players play, Sudduth didn't just "hand the ball off to Donald and Tremayne," he also threw it to them along with J.J. and Jason Thompson (who WERE more athletic than either Repass or Davis this year) and played under the offense of legendary coach Chmara.. not the genius Playstation offense of little Freddie. Thats no knock on Rusty b/c he is a great player, but fundamentally he was no better than Jarrod and especially not near the level of Brandon Sarver from '97. Oh yeah and '96 was a one-man show?! Shows how much else you know about Blfd football. You're telling me a backfield of Lenny Johnson, Yubrenal, and Charlie Tynes was a one-man show? Along with Glen Keene and Brandon Sarver at QB? Give me a break. This year's team was great, but like I said in my original post, get off the bandwagon buddy.

Being an alumnus of BHS, I still can't believe people would say the 2004 team is the best of all time. Thats insane.. you think they could battle with the '97 or '96 teams? Give me a break. That would basically be saying people like David Perdue and Quinton Steptoe and Derrick are better than Shawn Dews, Lenny Johnson, Jack Wright, Rick Dissibio, Yubrenal Isabelle, Charlie Tynes, Donald Amaker, and I'll even throw Tremayne Bennett in there. Lets go to the offensive line.. those Siers twins (who both weigh about 170 lbs at the most) going up against Kyle Croye, Shaun Beasley or Setti (sp?) Leggett. Are you kidding?! Those mid to late-90's group of athletes at Bluefield were just a different breed.. you ask any of the area teams about them. Those guys are like men among boys when compared to this year's team. People need to get off the bandwagon and realize yes these guys this year were outstanding and deserve a state title, but they were not even NEAR the talent level of year's past. This year's team, IN MY OPINION, I don't think is any better than the '99 team or '03 team either. Yes, that same '99 team that got blown out by Wyoming East. You go position by position, and you see a backfield of Donald Amaker (who was faster than any guy on this year's team could dream to be), Tremayne Bennett, and Craig Bauer (who as a FB, was bigger than any guy on this year's team). And the QB position was arguably better with Jarrod Sudduth(playing with a more consistent offense than this year's) with receivers like J.J. Patton and Jason Thompson. This year's team, talent wise, still was not near their level. As for last year's team, one word sums them up: underachievers. You stick this year's coaching staff with last year's talent, you have one dominating football team. I won't dwell on last year, but I'll say they were also more talented, just didn't perform to the level they needed to. Now as much as I'm sounding like I'm from Poca, Wayne, or even Princeton, I'm not. I'm just stating a point as to who is the best BHS team of all time. If you asked me, I would say '96 hands down. And no, they didn't even win the title game, but they were the deepest and most talented BHS team I had ever seen. If not for the more questionable QB switch in BHS history after Glen Keene separated his shoulder against East Bank, they would have won the title. So there you go - let the debate begin.