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I don't bother trying to discuss anything even remotely political anymore, and these days, that's nearly everything, because I found myself making everyone mad. No political party has a monopoly on ignorance. If Republicans passed a resolution that the sky was blue, Democrats would oppose it, and if Democrats passed a resolution that grass was green, Republicans would oppose that. I miss the days when people did what was right, NOT what is right for THEM. If people are so stubborn/ignorant that they will not believe the very truth that is before them because it doesn't align with their private "reality", then that only leaves us with a cleaner gene pool. Might be harsh, but you can't fix stupid.

Such a Bastian of discourse, this thread.

Being in healthcare for 33+ years the one thing I can say for sure is you cannot stop a highly contagious virus. No paper or cloth mask or amount of social distancing is going to stop us from getting it. You will either get it and not know you had it, get it and be sick for awhile, get it and die, or hopefully be lucky enough to not be exposed.

Since the word 'random' is in the topic line...I'm posting the following here: Timesland @Timesland Chris Paul with a Bluefield State sweatshirt on the podium.#timesland great state

From what I understand we are one of 14 states that are not allowing our kids to participate in fall sports at the current time, obviously that leaves 36 states who are playing RIGHT NOW. I just hope they don't rob the kids the chance for their senior season. Let the kids play!! My youngest son will be a senior for Appomattox this year and i want to be able to watch him play his last year.

Whichever one garners the largest insurance reimbursement for the hospital?

Just let me do the selecting.

I enjoyed this board and life a lot better when everyone's political leaning was less known. Those were the days.

I think he was "kidding on the square" about the virus's disappearance on 11/4. While obviously the virus will be no less transmittable or no less deadly, you're kidding yourself if you think the narrative won't change, for better (Biden) or worse (Trump).

What about life has been “normal” since March 12, 2020?

He told swva_havoc_fan "ive got my list narrowed down. Its Virginia Tech, Penn State, Tennessee, and... you know that school with Navy and Yellow uniforms" and thats the list he came up with

VHSL will stick to the plan in place to protect their a$$es. To many people on board with the spring to go against. King Ralph isnt lifting any restrictions till November when he will apply more restrictions to make up for the election, I mean flu season

If Al Groh were competent, there could have been the possibility of Hall and Bradshaw being in the same backfield at UVA between 2005 and 2008. What could have been...

I dont think we will know that answer until after VA has played. If TN has some issues in the coming weeks and the season is canceled for everyone or a few schools and VA has a trouble free Spring then it looks like VA made the right decision. If TN goes through the season problem free and so does VA then its a wash. If VA has problems this Spring then there was absolutely no benefit. Were weeks into it but still early in the process overall. Sullivan North shut down for a few weeks after an outbreak but that's the only hiccup I've heard about.

This year, no. Next year, haven't heard anything 😉

Carole Baskin? 😁

Covid19 is more than serious. It's the real deal. There's no question about it. I have had it, so I can attest to it personally. We are trying to go by science and it's important to go by science IN ALL facets of any argument or debate or discussion about C-19 from start to finish. For example, we have several pieces of sound data above in this thread giving numbers about C-19 that are accurate and there's no question, any thought stating it's not very serious or is fake is just absurd. We have scientific data, metrics, and more to support this point. With this written, lets CONTINUE with the scientific viewpoint. We also have data suggesting throughout history that many, many contagious and serious illnesses for some reason or another (be it Darwinian selection or Divine intervention) children DO NOT transmit very well do adults. From smallpox to Ebola to the Spanish Flu, and to even chicken pox (yes, an adult who has never had chicken pox can be around a child who has it and remarkably, the adult usually and somehow doesn't get it.) Of course today, we have a vaccine for this as well. Anyway and historically, it is certainly possibly and it happens, children can surely transmit serious and contagious illnesses to adults, but it is overwhelmingly LOW in chance. We have theories why, but still aren't completely sure. With all of the above written, we have very, very, very little data so far on C-19's ability to transmit/infect from a child to an adult or more important and vulnerable, a transmission from a child to an elderly adult who likely has co-morbidiities. Of the anecdotal data we have with C-19, and it's only anecdotal so far, it's becoming very clear that children are very unlikely to transmit the virus to adults. Yes, it's possible and it's easy to cherry pick the one case in Iowa or Colorado where the kid gave it to 5 adults, etc ) but it's absolutely the exception to the rule. The media has been and continues to beg for, to actively seek out, to look for this scenario and has been doing so for months, and they are turning up empty 99% of the time. One theory is that the immune response is so overwhelmingly powerful in children that the virus is weakened to the point that the overall "viral load" in the child is so rapidly decreased that sheer volume of virus around an adult or other child is greatly limited. Because of this, I am in fact, very much in favor of ALL schools opening and returning in class. With that written, when I say all schools, I am talking about Pre-K through 8th grade. I would be in favor of High Schools returning only with mandatory mask policy and would prefer a mixed curriculum of 2 or 3 days in school and 2 or 3 days online. With colleges, I would halt all public attendance until December. This is only my opinion, and yes, as you may suspect, I am in the medical field and have Dr as one of my credentials. It's also how I contracted the illness months ago. If we are going to argue scientific data to support an argument (a good thing) then we need to stay with that data or lack thereof when arguing the entire argument, from start to finish. The data in my opinion is far, far in favor of returning pre K kids through 8th grade to school, and in High School, its tricky, it's 50-50.

There're several teams from the former LPD that would agree.

You get your chance to change that on November 3, 2020. Needless to say, the stakes just ratcheted up exponentially. Such is the political climate upon the passing of Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Quite a mixed legacy, and in better times, we could remember her for simply her legacy. Society won’t allow that anymore, and it’s not for the best.

Tennessee West Virginia Penn State Virginia Tech Toledo

01 824 Parkersburg 02 697 Bridgeport 03 685 Bluefield 04 684 Morgantown 05 668 Magnolia 06 655 Fairmont Sr 07 621 Martinsburg 08 603 Keyser 09 591 St. Marys 10 585 Woodrow Wilson - Beckley 11 571 Weir 12 569 Charleston - closed 13 567 Linsly Institute 14 555 Wayne 15 553 Wheeling Central Catholic 16 535 Ravenswood 17 523 Nicholas County 18 520 Point Pleasant 19 517 Ceredo-Kenova - closed 20 516 Summers County - Hinton

VHSL won't let them play just to prove they have that power...

It wasn't always about football, sometimes it was a life lesson...

Thought some may be interested to know. Andrew's paternal great-grandmother is my dad's sister. We used to beat up on Chad and my brother when they were kids. Wouldn't attempt it today!

Lee was never a member of the SWD. They successfully appealed to drop to Group A when the Highlands District went belly up. But a lot of SWD scheduled games with the Generals in a show of magnanimity. Just FYI....

If you ever met Coach Carlock, you would understand why.

Soaring like an Eagle!

Let’s all try to avoid any tunnel vision, y’all.

Seems like we’ve came up on a Clear fork in the road.

Careful guys, that's a bit of a Rocky Gap you're treading!

Rather bland response if you ask me...

Not a Trump supporter but this argument is a common one and is weak as well water; If someone touches a woman in a sexual way and then she later sleeps with them then apparently she didn't mind and it wasn't sexual assault. Cheating on his wife, that's immoral but ultimately between him and his wife. Paying a prostitute (and that's what she was/is) to have sex with you and then paying her to keep her mouth shut about it is greasy but from my point of view isnt a big deal(it it in no way reflective of the person I want as president), but if prostitution was legalized tomorrow I wouldn't have a problem with it. Solicited other countries to help him win an election, not really. Encouraged people to drink disinfectant, that's not what he meant and everyone knows it. Tweets, embarrassing plain and simple. He needs to hand that over to someone else or get better at it. I will say, the POTUS speaking directly to citizens isn't unlike a modern day fireside chat and is kinda cool. I just wish he was better at it. There is a huge difference between acting inappropriately and supporting/passing rules that apply to commoners but not the elites. Its just a haircut, but businesses are failing and people are losing their lifes work over this. If Pelosi was a real leader she would proudly walk around grey headed with 6 months of extra growth in her hair. That being said, it was obviously a set up and every hair stylist/barber has been working on the side. Hell, if I was a barber id be going to peoples homes and doing haircuts. Trumps greasy as hell but to compare his moral short comings to what Pelosi and others have done and the way they obviously believe that theyre above the law is ridiculous.

The hairstylist had video proof turned over to legal counsel of Erica opening her “closed” shop multiple times since April. Nancy Pelosi is not a saint. Erica Kious is not a saint. Donald Trump is not a saint. Joe Biden is not a saint.

I love the outrage on this from the same Republican Party that supports a man who admitted to sexually assaulting women, cheated on his wives numerous times, paid off a porn star to keep her quiet, solicited other countries to help him win an election, encouraged people to drink disinfectant, and tweets like he's 5 year old. This lady got a haircut but you would think she was guilty of war crimes.

Giles is now a member of the Mountain Empire in the next cycle after winning their appeal.

The fear would be you catch Covid, and you're obese so right there you're +1 and develop pneumonia, then suddenly you're +2 and in trouble. Very reasonable situation and you're taking the proper and necessary precautions and that's all any of us can do. On a side note, a friend of mines husband caught it, both of them and their teenage daughter were of course quarantined and luckily they hadn't had a lot of contact with people outside their immediate family(each other and a few others) because they were taking it serious and social distancing. The response from the daughters boyfriends family was pretty disgusting. Treating her like a leper even after her quarantine period was over, even though she was negative and developed no symptoms whatsoever. Blaming her for putting them and their parents in danger, and these are people who dont wear masks or social distance and fall into the "Covid isnt real" group but when it hit close to home they were hyper defensive toward it and her. The level of pure ignorance out there is astonishing and im honestly surprised, shouldn't be but I am.

Not really. A comorbidity is for example diabetes. If you don't have Covid, you're not likely to die of diabetes suddenly in your 50s or 60s. Covid is exacerbating the problem and causing things we would normally get through easily, such as pneumonia, and making them fatal. 184,697 Americans are dead because Covid made their health issues worse.

I predict Marion vs Lebanon for region D championship. Due to postponements and cancellations.

You’ve got quite the potty mouth today, don’t you? I’ve got a gif for that too.

I’m just an ordinary demiguy, why do I upset you so?

Here’s the problem. Disagree with him if you want, but going right after him with an ad hom doesn’t exactly give you the high road here.

People aren’t gonna want to hear this, but there is U.S. Supreme Court precedent on point (Jacobson v. Massachusetts) requiring compulsory vaccinations in the event of public health emergencies.

And here we go

it should have been. never should have locked down, will go down as one of the bigger blunders in history

Society's getting a glimpse of how science works when science has to be done "on the fly". Unfortunately, scientists (aided by the media) have done a pretty miserable job of stating things as ironclad facts when, in fact, it's merely preliminary results of scientific testing.

It’s not as big an issue of the kids getting it. Make no mistake. Kids will get it as they go back. They already have in states that have already started school. It will spread among children. Is it as deadly? Not compared to other groups, no. But you have to look past the school and go to the home. Those kids who get it, maybe they live with Grandparents because the parents died in a car crash. Maybe the parents themselves are older. Those kids are going to bring it home. Those parents/grandparents — who have been vigilant and safe for 5 months by wearing masks, staying inside and following the guidelines that WORK — and now they are sick and die. All because of another family who didn’t follow those guidelines and sent their kid to school with the virus and infected countless others. It’s the same argument about sports. It’s NOT about the players getting it. They will. And they’ll recover. But it’s about the families they go home to. And the fans that sit in those stands if you open them back up. Stop looking at the micro and look at the macro. It’s not an easy decision to make school virtual. I understand that. Believe me. My wife and I, along with my stepson’s father and stepmother, had some real discussion for weeks before we decided to make him 100% virtual for the entire school year. It will likely hurt him in the short run academically. It’s something we are going to work hard to mitigate. But at the end of the day, is it worth sending him back for him to potentially get it and bring it home to his mother who won’t survive the virus? It’s never as easy as “go or no.”

The VHSL is completely controlled by the state administration. The decision or answer of YES or NO for football in the fall has already been decided for them, and decided ABOVE them.

Here is a better livestream with commentary.

Better a grape field than a rocky gap!

I just hope we play; personally think Virginia could have had abbreviated season this fall especially after reading CDC’s revised numbers and data concerning Covid. We shouldn’t have to be watching ESPN to see HS football. Predictions? I’ll take Graham for district just because I’m loyal. Regionals, no clue.