total 12 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 FOR ALL YOU VICK HATERS THAT HAVE BEEN BASHING..... i'm not really a fan of either... just a neutral reader that understands what it's like to have a tough childhood, and a lot of pressure. even if you don't read the story - skip down to the very end and read the last 2 paragraphs. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=2287414 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman 13 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Those who would excuse lawlessness continue thier apology and assualt on the law abiding nature of our society. Try telling this "hard luck", Oprah crap to an immigrant that escaped some third world dump to come to this country to live free and work hard and they'll laugh in your face. That's what the foreign born nationals that I showed this news article did, laugh. And some asked if it was a real article or a spoof article! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
total 12 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 i didn't say everyone else was immune... everyone has it tough at one point or another. nobody's life is easy. it's the choices we make that reflect our character, and just because some make the wrong choices... it doesn't make it ok because they can say i've had it sooo tough in my past. however - the biggest thing is... it's not up to me, or you, or anyone else to judge him. however, his actions shouldn't be excused and he should man up and take responsibility for what he's done... and if a jury of his peers finds him guilty, and he does time - then i'll still love him unconditionally... even though i don't know him. seems like i've read something like that in a book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman 13 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 [ QUOTE ] i didn't say everyone else was immune... everyone has it tough at one point or another. nobody's life is easy. it's the choices we make that reflect our character, and just because some make the wrong choices... it doesn't make it ok because they can say i've had it sooo tough in my past. however - the biggest thing is... it's not up to me, or you, or anyone else to judge him. however, his actions shouldn't be excused and he should man up and take responsibility for what he's done... and if a jury of his peers finds him guilty, and he does time - then i'll still love him unconditionally... even though i don't know him. seems like i've read something like that in a book. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with you right up to the point about love. Love and respect are earned, just like punishment is earned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
total 12 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefieldRocks 14 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 So a tough childhood makes it ok for him to pull a gun on somebody? and step on the back of another players leg? I dont think so.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
total 12 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 "just because some make the wrong choices... it doesn't make it ok because they can say i've had it sooo tough in my past" i guess you didn't see that part - huh? nobody was saying it was ok... read it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90bhsgrad 10 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 There are countless people who grew up in the same conditions as these guys but are now successful not only in sports, but in business,law, etc way it's called free will. People use that junk as an excuse while others use it to motavate them in a positive way. Period. Vick and Clarett chose to go the their respective schools so any pressure was partial self-inflicted in my opinion. These two men and I use that term loosely have pissed away opportunity after opportunity so if they never make to the NFL or any pro league it wouldn't affect my life at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 Great post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH31 2,533 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 jay leno made a joke last night that said "did you hear about marcus vick and maurice clarett? they pulled a gun on each other" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ3 10 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Leno also said "Vince Young announced he's going to the pro's and Marcus Vick announced he was going to the cons" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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