Girls basketball and softball consistently produce more state championship caliber teams than any other sports on our end of the state and have for a long time. They rarely receive the same recognition as the boys, however. It's nice to see the efforts of these young lady's being noticed with the amount of activity on this site.
The girls who remain in the program at Galax are changing the culture. The new coach ruffled some feathers of parents and players alike causing roughly half the program participants to quit over the past year. I'm not certain that's an altogether negative thing. Changing a culture of mediocrity means changing habits, patterns, expectations and desires. Those who weren't willing to put in the work throughout the spring and summer were a part of the culture of mediocrity. The results have been tremendous thus far. This team is young, hungry but inconsistent. But the inconsistency is changing rapidly!
I look forward to what these girls can accomplish over the next few years.
8 minutes ago, EliteSWVAFan said:
The summer showcase team that Essence Brown and Shay Fox of Galax played with this summer had several other SWVA girls (Grace Hess and Taylor Gilbert [Abindgon], Dee Cvetnich [Central], Ericah Burton [Richlands]). Their coach was extremely demanding in a very positive way so with those two at the helm, I see a bright future for Galax.
I thought GALAX was one of the best small A teams I'd seen until I changed my mind a bit score board watching. However if the GALAX team I watched early In the season shows up in the post season then I believe the sky's the limit. I personally think Galax is one of the few teams out there that can beat the PM team.
I was very impressed with those girls the game I saw. I'm sure PM wants to avoid playing that group if at all possible.
If if nothing else it sounds like the girls deserve to be recognized for their hard off season work. I doubt anyone at these small school districts are putting in that much off season work. It sounds like GALAX should be rewarded
Not saying Cburg isn't a good team, just pointing out that the rest of the Pioneer teams are bad.
Sounds like your right. id like to see them play the LB game. It's a Saturday. It looks like some pretty good boys teams will be in that tournament as well
I called the Blacksburg @ Cburg game last night. Cburg has a couple of tall girls down low in Allen and Carr and then Hutson can SHOOT. Not sure how they stack up in Class 3, but they surprised me.
I've saw cburg once this year and I agree they have a good team. Have some talent. I think they can compete in D3 this year based on some teams I'm watching.
The Roanoke times has them listed high in their top 10. I can't remember where but they are receiving attention
Galax thumped George Wythe 55-36 tonight. Impressive performance by an inconsistent team getting much more consistent as the season progresses.
Sounds like they looked really good like they did the game I saw them play earlier this season. I'm a believer of GALAX. I'm not sure they can beat what I saw at PM but it sounds like the two of those guys are headed for a clash.
According to the Roanoke website PM won 80 to 12 or something like that tonight
im not sure what kind of competition is there these scores are crazy
very impressive win for galax. I believe the D1 division is heating up
I watched Union play a few times this year. They are very long and athletic. In my opinion they are similar to PM except Union is more athletic but does not play as good of a basketball game as PM. They have the ability on any given night to beat any of Champs top 10 teams. Just my opinion.
I only saw them once this year. I didn't think they were great that night. Nice win the other night though. If they keep that up I'm sure I will have to move them up in my rankings.
Which im sure they are concerned about my rankings lol.
Is Central really that good guys? I watched them play v. Union and wasn't impressed in the slightest. They've got one shooter and a post player, and their offense is very hit or miss. Union was far from great, lots of turnovers, but still pulled out the W. I was told Wise was undefeated and had a shot to make a run but I don't see it. This Central team isn't nearly as good as some in years past IMO.
I ageee. The more I watch the more central is dropping down my rankings list.
It won't be hard. Region D for 1A is the BDD, Cumberland and Hogoheegee schools. So, in the BDD it should be Grundy and Honaker for sure. Out of the Cumberland, I could see Eastside, Burton and Rye Cove, and the Hogoheegee I see Chilhowie and PH, to make the 8 teams if it's an 8 team tournament.
There is no more West region. 4 region setup with 2 coming from each region, the region finalists. Region D winner "hosts" Region C runner up, Region C winner "Hosts" Region D runner up. Same scenario for the A & B side (East).
Appomattox Regional Governor's School, who the 71 point scorer Jada Boyd plays for, lost in the 2016 finals to Northwood and last year lost in the quarters to Honaker. This year, in what games they have listed on that inaccurate site that everyone hates and doesn't get mentioned here... they are 1-6. So apparently they are not as good as a team as they have been.
As for Ridgeview, the ship is still afloat for now. They WERE picked third in the district. Abingdon and Central both were picked ahead of them, so there's that. If they lose tonight to Gate City, then the questions will start to come.
Yes Ridgeview game tonight is big for my rankings of them. So they better play hard lol.
Dont tell me the playoff format changed ? I just learned what was a new format to me a few weeks ago. Of course I was researching based off last year.
And yes I know which site your talking about. If it makes you feel any better I've lived in 3 states and everyone I know that follows sports hates the site. It is for sure inaccurate at times
Is Region C using the mercy rule like Region D is. I’m talking about single A, I was told 2A and up voted against the Mercy rule. Because 90+ points is a tremendous amount to score if the clock is running nonstop for the 3rd and 4th quarter. Unless they are pressing the whole game?????
I was at Galax this year and they had a running clock. Apparently it's a running clock after getting a certain lead.
I watched the PM vs Gate City game. They didn't press late in that game but their transition game looks like small college ball.
Their point guard is one of the better floor generals I've laid eyes on. She sets them up time and time again with easy buckets.
Their bigs run the court like guards. They have several good shooters as well
I saw them play Floyd County as well. It wasn't even close.
Id love to see them play Abingdon, central etc. it would be some great action to watch.
I still feel like honaker can sneak into the region D. I don't see them beating PM but I hope to play them so they can see what kind of standard needs to be set.
From what I can tell it's a 4 team field for the west title in single A. I've watched about 12 games of multiple schools now and to me
PM. GALAX. EASTSIDE AND homer alert
HONAKER are the only 4 teams that have a chance. Personally I think PM is 20-30 points better than Any of the other 3.
EAST I have no idea. Someone up there scored 69 points with 30 rebounds. You'd have to think that team can compete ?
2A central is a surprise. Many told me they were down a little but they certainly seem to be heading the right direction. FLOYD county is a good team. They have lost to several good teams. I'm not sure what to think about Ridgeview ? They have also played a pretty solid schedule
So, since this has become the unofficial girls basketball thread, it should be mentioned that Jada Boyd of Appomattox Regional Governors School (lost to Northwood in 2016 1A finals), scored a VHSL record 69 points, had a VHSL record 33 rebounds and 10 blocks tonight in an OT loss to Franklin County. She scored 69 of ARGS 77 points.
My goodness. Congrats to that young lady
sounds like she needs some help if they still lost the game. What a shame. But what a great memory for that young Lady.
Use it as a practice, yell on the court and waste time teaching during the game. Work on a delay offense or focus on a specific shot vs a zone. I could waste a good 3 mins doing that.
Yes I agree there are some things you can do and continue to be sharp.
I don't think holding the ball to long is the answer because you want to play ball and continue to work on your game
but certainly working on a half court offense and looking for certain shots could slow things down. There's not much you can do about defense but offensively you can slow down.
In PA this was never the case. They would beat you to the point of blood and tears coming out and the favor would be returned when the opportunity presented itself.
Cut throat basketball from AAU to Highschool. The boys were always worse than the girls. We had a small highschool 15 miles from the border line of PA and Maryland. I watched them lose a game 125 to 4 one evening.
I lived in PA for several years and the key to all success appears to be Playing lots of basketball together. In PA they are starting AAU teams as early as 2nd grade.
It seems that any dominant successful team usually has an AAU story. However for every one success story there's 5 teams that started at a young age and because of coaches or parents or both they ruined the game for these kids.
I think starting kids early is great but you have to let them have fun as well
I hope all 5 of my daughters would tell you that we had fun and it never felt like a job.
Just saw this score popup on Twitter. Good Lord! GIRLS BASKETBALL -- Parry McCluer 89, Highland 7 -- Final.
Last night after seeing this I have to raise an eyebrow at this and wonderful about the message a coach is sending. I immediately question the coach at hand for this ( that was my first thought )
1 hour ago, TwhscoachT said:
I would be extremely careful doing this at a 1a school, This could REALLY come back to bite you.
I just like you has the same original reaction.
8 hours ago, Girls-Hoops said:
CW Is down and out.
PM is probably Even with Central and Ridgeview. They are playing at a pretty high level for 1A.
I've seen Ridgeview play 3 games and agree they are a very solid team. I'd take PM by double digits
so my final thoughts are that seeing a score like that was a little mind blowing and you question a coaches intentions at first glance. However after digging a little deeper today it appears the team is so deep that most of the back ups would start on most teams throughout the region. ( I read this online from a guy that covers the ODAC he stated that the entire bench could play minutes for the odac schools ) and the starters would all easily start for the ODAC. Apparently they have 2 ligit D1/D2 recruits as juniors .
It's hard finding much info on PM. There is apparently no local news paper in BUENA VISTA. I found a news gazette that covers the area but there's not an abundance of stuff on line. What I did read was impressive.
It appears this group of kids played ball for several years together much like the northwood girls story I read from a couple years ago. PM played that same northwood team with mostly freshman and lost in the state finals or maybe semi finals . Then last year they won the state with a predominantly sophomore roster.
I'm not so sure they aren't the best team in any of the 1 2 3 or 4 A programs I've seen
I haven't seen everyone but the ones I have seen PM could play with or beat any of them.
However with all this being said the book is still out on this score I'd like to see how the game was handled. I'd like to watch them play a couple more games if possible.
My first thought and my first gut feeling tells me it's ridiculous and uncalled for. But if they are that deep then maybe it's nothing you can do about it.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. As I would also caution a program for running a score up. If that's indeed what happened. However if your that good do you teach your kids to let someone else score ?
I would say absolutely not. This will be worth tracking this year.
Lastly i I don't think the Highland team is that good sounds like they have a struggling program
Saw eastside firsthand tonight, they are quick and run well. I would say -15 in favor of pineville if they met on an neutral floor. Pineville is not as quick but has the skillset advantage at 3 positions.
Careful not to confuse harlan (city) for harlan county. The county school has all of those prospects. Harlan county would rank in VA 6a top 10, but they are that big too
I watched some of pineville on line as well. PM would have to play awful to lose to them. I think the PM team would be top 3 at most levels D1-D4 I'm not sure how they would do against Harlan. They sound great.
I still want to go to go see pineville in person
It sounds like EASTSIDE and GALAX may be some competition for PM but not much
I'm still finger crossing that honaker can slide by EASTSIDE. We are so very young but playing good ball so far
Pineville would be #1 in 1a vhsl and it would not be close. They could possibly be top 3 in 2a west of Roanoke. Stretching the transitive property here, but I have seen them in person along with Rye cove. I'll let you know after Tuesday's game vs Eastside how they would stack up.
I'm caught up now. Your talking about pineville in KY. I haven't seen them play and I'm not doubting what your seeing but I have seen Eastside girls twice, Galax, honaker and PM girls. Along with Ridgeview Abingdon and a few others.
As far as small schools division 1 in VA you would have to really convince me there's anyone in any state 20-40 points better than the PM team. They are the best small school I've ever seen.
For a reference I personally think PM is 25-35 points better then Eastside.
Does pineville play anymore games here in SWVA ? I'd like to catch them if I can.
Unless jv girls games are somewhere else that day I tend to be at every game.
The difference was that pineville never pressed, sat in a zone or a sagging man and begged us to shoot. They cycled players in and out and really played everyone. Spoke the coach after the game, he understands down years and has experienced his fair share.
Rye cove on the other hand pressed mid way into the 4th quarter, used their starters mid way thru the 4th quarter and if not for number 3 outside shooting it would have been a 8-10 point game.
If the two were to meet. Pineville's 45 would have a field day and score at will, she has a d2 skillset and probably the best player we will see all year. I say pineville would win by 20-40 in a blow out.
I really believe if they were in Vhsl 1a division it would be 20 to 40 point favorite over everyone.
Which team are you talking about you guys have lost me. Who is 20-40 points better than anyone ?
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Update weekend of 1-20-18
1 PM ( no change win 65-26 vs faith )
2 carrol county
3 central wise ( win over Abingdon)
4 Abingdon ( loss to central )
5 Ridgeview
6 Patrick county
7 Christiansburg
8 martinsville
9 Galax
10 union
bubble
Eastside
floyd county
lebanon
honaker