ThatDude

LMAO I haven't been to this board since yesterday for the first time in a week. Plus I find it funny how two people try to guess who I am, but unsuccessfully do so. If you want to know who I am, feel free to PM me and I'll gladly point out to you who I am. Will I need my drivers license, social security number and birth certificate as well?

Appreciate it, man.

Hurley or Richlands fans, where is the game being hosted?

A round of applause goes out to Heath Miller on being named 1st Team All-American. Not only that, but he won the John Mackey Award presented to the college football's top tight end. It should be his second, but I won't suck on sour grapes. In any case, congrats to Heath on the well deserved awards!

The Hurley poster above needs to take a Xanax and chill. My head hurt from even attempting to read that. But Mr. Justus, you need to chill as well with your shots at Hurley. I mean how much better of a ball player have the folks at Grundy made you? Yeah, you were always a good player, but it seems to me you've straight lined since getting there. In any case, I don't see how in one year of JV basketball at Hurley, you can come to any conclusion about how the boys are handled. You can say you've heard this, heard that, but what exactly does that mean? Feel free to try again when you have first hand information.

Oh, quite a few replies. Goodie, I'll have a good time with this one. Rebs: Trust me bro, I've been there, dealt with Wayne and have seen how he has handled things from when he coached 8th grade ball, to the JV/Varsity baseball teams, and the football teams. I've seen how he handles players and how he tries to 'motivate' them. But I like how you go on to contradict yourself and talk about how the coaches babyfied players just to keep them on board. Nice touch. If first-hand information makes me 'ignorant' then sobeit, I must be at the head of the class. rebelman44: Good players make good coaches? What the blue f'n heck are you smokin'? Do you want me to go back over the course of history and show you teams loaded with talent who have accomplished jack? You can load your team with all-state talent? Heck, you could load up players from around the state like Pat Sheil, Vic Harris, Vic Hall, Todd Nolen, etc., and if you don't give them a good coach, they won't perform for SQUAT! I also find it funny how you knock on playcalling by Hackney. Need I go back and refer to the last INT during the Twin Valley game. Yeah, really nice trick play. It'd been even more nice if Pound had won and that idiotic play had cost the team a shot at regionals. It's sorta funny how you contradict yourself as well and talk about assitant coach Ledford Gibson who was a Wayne Halal assitant until he stepped down, but then say he could've did a better job than him? Last I checked Coach Gibson was having much success in NC under a once bad football team. I also find it funny how you don't have your facts straight. Wayne Hall was never fired. He was offered the chance to step down or be fired after the incident that happened after a football game. The school board had NO CHOICE but to let him go, and he chose to step down. And lastly, Mr. Compton in another thread said it best. No matter the talent, nor the numbers, if you have the heart you can match up with any squad. I can remember when this schedule was put togehter 2 years ago, the coaches themself said it was done solely based on putting togehter a string of lesser opponents to make it to region. Now whether you want to miscontrude that, it's your own perrogative, so have at it, but facts are facts.

It's one thing to watch Hurley football, it's another to grasp the actual concept of it, learn it, and actually know what you're talking about. But hey, I can say I'm Albie Einstein on the internet but judging by your posts, you really have no clue as to what you're talking about in the least. Heck, I probably wouldn't be to far out of line you're one of those people who refer to Hurley people as "the people over the mountain." Either that or you're a Race Fork holligan who stays strung out most of its life. Either or, what's the difference?

Many things to point out. 1.) Don't praise the coaching job done this year. The schedule that Hurley had was a joke. It was done for the hopes of just getting to regionals with no aspirations of winning a single game. It was soft, plain and simple, it was soft. 2.) Don't even compare Mark Hackney to Wayne Hall. I can speak for most when I say Wayne has no way to relate to the kids and get across to them. I won't deny his knowledge of the game, but he has zero knowledge of forming a coach-player relationship to have that trust of he knows what he is doing. Some of Hurley's top athletes from little league up wouldn't play for him. What I mean is they would strap on the helmet, but they gave half-hearted efforts at best because he has no motivation factor. Mark implented that drill sergeant factor and took no BS. He would bust your arse from dawn 'till dusk and he took no lip, took no half hearted effort, and took no senseless BS on or off the field. Mark himself made decisions I know he regrets until this day, but he wouldn't let his players make those same mistakes albeit differently. Mark could take his worst player from the days he had them as coach, and he could drive them to play with more heart and passion than any player Hurley fielded this year. 3.) You want to bring up the player factor that Hackney had, but you don't want to bring up the player factor Hall had in '96? Wayne fielded one of the better football players to come from this region, and arguably the best football player to come from Hurley, Greg Justus withstanding. Greg mauled everyone and single handedly dominated people because he was that much stronger, and that much faster than anyone who lined up across from him. Heck, the boy went to the U on a scholarship, and how many people around here can say that? Then I can roll off names like Chris Baker, Roger Hurley, Anthony Justus, Trey Adkins, Michael Stacy, etc., but you get the idea of the talent level he had. 4.) Players rebelled against Hall. Whether some want to remember this or not, but it wasn't Wayne's record that got him fired the first time around. It was moreso his players actions after a certain football game that handcuffed the school board into firing him. Why they decided to give him a second chance, who knows? Politics plays alot into what goes on in this county, and that was the sole reason Mark Cooper was hired to coach Hurley, and it was probably the sole reason Wayne Hall was hired back. 5.) Their is a certain fine line between constructive criticism and just being overly obnoxious. Most of the criticsim that the coaches at Hurley make crosses that line. It's one thing to tell a player he needs to work on say foot speed, but another to say you're slower than a mother f'n turtle on it's back, get going. You see what I'm saying? It all goes back to that trust factor and believing in what the coach preaches to you. If you don't develop that trust and belief, the players won't believe in you and you will get lackluster efforts. Don't get me wrong, Wayne is a wonderful person and such a giving man for what he has to deal with. But he is no coach. While he was once a great athlete from his days at Garden and even from his days at Emory he learned the game very well. But just because you have knowledge of the game doesn't mean you can teach it well to someone else. In any case, I will give Hurley it's props because it did defeat teams with in most cases 13-14 players because it's something not many teams can say, no matter who the opponent is.

You obviously either don't have a clue, or are smokin' some real sweet buddah. In any case, you described about 99% of teams in this area, so why knock Hurley? And to say these kids are more worried about looking good than playing is completely hilarious. Find me a team who fields 16 and maybe 14 of them play any or at all, and can go to region. Not to mention the coaching quality isn't top notch either, nor are the training facilities. And I'd like to know what parents you are referring to, because I with dj have no clue as to what you're talking about. Senseless and mindless babble by another clueless fan, IMO.

If anyone is wondering about former Powell Valley standout Julius Jones, he will make his return today at 1PM in Baltimore. Julius had a pulled rib muscle week 1 against the Minnesota Vikings and did not play. During week 2, Julius broke his shoulder and has been out since. Today he makes his return against a stengy Ravens defense, and his carries should be limited, but he will be in action. And looking around this area, it seems most will get the Ravens vs. Cowboys game on FOX at 1PM, so you should be able to catch Julius in action today.

Twin Springs - 42 Twin Valley - 22

Gate City - 23 Honaker - 21 J.I. Burton - 53 Hurley - 6 Powell Valley - -35 Rye Cove - 6 Lebanon - 48 Grayson Co. - 7

I would copy and paste, but that's copyright enfringement and we don't need that. http://www.nflhs.com/news/playersspotlight/MikeCompton_11042004_sim.asp Enjoy!

No habla espanol? But after trying to translate that post into English, Hurley's game with Betsy Layne DOES count toward their ranking. The start of the KY season has nothing to do with the game. And the game was not even played at Betsy Layne, it was at Hurley. At no point in the season or during the year was the game being discussed, or has been discussed as not being counted like the Beckley Christian game didn't count towards Twin Valley's rating. So basically, whomever is telling you that is blowing sunshine up the old tail pipe.

Just some notables; In Virginia: #27 Richlands #32 Grundy On the East Coast: #12 Parkersburg, WV #22 Bluefield, WV #52 Martinsburg, WV Those teams are also ranked 1, 3 and 4 in the West Virginia rankings. For West Virginia rankings: Click Here For Virginia Rankings: Click Here For East Coast Rankings: Click Here