You know lineman strong you cant always count on who beat who or how bad you beat them last time... I mean Grundy beat Hurley by 20 or so haysi then beats Grundy by 40 or so. So things are not as cut and dry as you may think honaker may be the better team and have more size up front but if they try to just key on waynick or bergalow they will lose I've seen hurley play a few times this year and they have a few more playmakers than them two