trublue 939 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Following is an excerpt from article: "Anything that threatens the integrity of the Census has profound implications. Not only is it the basis for congressional redistricting, it provides the raw data by which government spending is allocated on everything from roads to schools. The Bureau of Labor Statistics also uses the Census to prepare the economic data that so much of business relies upon. "If the original numbers aren't as hard as possible, the uses they're put to get fuzzier and fuzzier," says Bruce Chapman, who was director of the Census in the 1980s." http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123423384887066377.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzsawBeaver 12 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 (edited) Following is an excerpt from article: "Anything that threatens the integrity of the Census has profound implications. Not only is it the basis for congressional redistricting, it provides the raw data by which government spending is allocated on everything from roads to schools. The Bureau of Labor Statistics also uses the Census to prepare the economic data that so much of business relies upon. "If the original numbers aren't as hard as possible, the uses they're put to get fuzzier and fuzzier," says Bruce Chapman, who was director of the Census in the 1980s." http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123423384887066377.html a lot of real concerns in what they "are" attempting to do with that. If it's not obvious this isn't a big move towards government controlling the people then people should educate themselves on everything this administration is tampering with. Everyone who voted for these people are accountable for this. Edited February 13, 2009 by buzzsawBeaver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublue 939 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Just heard on Fox News Gregg has decided to not take the Sec. of Commerce job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Honestly, to most people this might not mean a lot, but it carries a whole lot of implications, money, and votes. It was bipartisan since the beginning, unless Obama gets his way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucfan64 309 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Of everything that the Obama Administration has done so far, THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY BIG COUP. The implications of this move, if approved, could have long term ramifications unlike any that we have ever seen politically in this country. I am PISSED off that the mainstream media isn't discussing this issue more and giving it the HEADLINES that it deserves. This is BIG! By Controlliing the Census Bureau, the White House will be able to confirm and approve the work of the Bureau, denying a bipartisan review in the legislature. In the past, the numbers and data had to be approved by BOTH parties before being accepted. Now only the Dems will get to approve. This is not democracy, this is TOTALITARIANISM! There are basically two ways to conduct the Census, go door to door and question everyone, and estimate based on a few questionaires. The latter is what will take place under the proposed change. Why? By estimating the numbers, the electoral college will change. I PROMISE YOU that the population numbers will be HIGHER in Democratically controlled areas and states than in Republican areas and states. This will result in GERRYMANDERING on a grand scale, District boundaries will be redrawn at a larger number than ever. States that are likely to vote Democrat will see an increase in Electoral votes, while states that usually vote Republican will see a decrease in electoral votes. Federal District Boundaries will be redrawn in a manner that will give advantages to Pro Obama and Pro Democrat areas. This is heinous and of the lowest things that a President could possibly do, politically. In addition, by WORKING the numbers, federal funds will pour into so called "larger" populated areas. Thus securing the welfare state in those areas, by securing the government handouts, these sheeple will in turn vote for those that give the handouts, AKA THE PARTY IN CONTROL! DEMS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzsawBeaver 12 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 actually all it requires is faith that those in power wouldn't abuse such a system, but the only faith that I have is in the certainty that they would, otherwise they wouldn't even be attempting this. If you consider the liberal voting strongholds, bigger cities, it's very difficult to accurately count people, especially with all the homeless and the poor who don't have much records. Then combined with what should be an "acorn" that's more powerful than ever before after their 4 billion handout, that without a doubt will certainly stimulate the economy, I'd say they'll have quite the unfair advantage in government and elections. Nothing but some of the most greedy, power grabbing moves against freedom in the u.s. history,. nothing to see here folks move along, .................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Of everything that the Obama Administration has done so far, THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY BIG COUP. The implications of this move, if approved, could have long term ramifications unlike any that we have ever seen politically in this country. I am PISSED off that the mainstream media isn't discussing this issue more and giving it the HEADLINES that it deserves. This is BIG! By Controlliing the Census Bureau, the White House will be able to confirm and approve the work of the Bureau, denying a bipartisan review in the legislature. In the past, the numbers and data had to be approved by BOTH parties before being accepted. Now only the Dems will get to approve. This is not democracy, this is TOTALITARIANISM! There are basically two ways to conduct the Census, go door to door and question everyone, and estimate based on a few questionaires. The latter is what will take place under the proposed change. Why? By estimating the numbers, the electoral college will change. I PROMISE YOU that the population numbers will be HIGHER in Democratically controlled areas and states than in Republican areas and states. This will result in GERRYMANDERING on a grand scale, District boundaries will be redrawn at a larger number than ever. States that are likely to vote Democrat will see an increase in Electoral votes, while states that usually vote Republican will see a decrease in electoral votes. Federal District Boundaries will be redrawn in a manner that will give advantages to Pro Obama and Pro Democrat areas. This is heinous and of the lowest things that a President could possibly do, politically. In addition, by WORKING the numbers, federal funds will pour into so called "larger" populated areas. Thus securing the welfare state in those areas, by securing the government handouts, these sheeple will in turn vote for those that give the handouts, AKA THE PARTY IN CONTROL! DEMS! Change we can believe in! /Sarcasm. [sHAKING MY HEAD] We're in trouble, fellas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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