Maybe the TSSAA refs won't be so intimidated on Monday when Central comes to the TAC... I can only hope anyway. Lol
D-B dominated Central from start to finish and won 53-45. Led by as many as 16. McAmis ended up being the leading scorer with Looney but was held to only two in the first half, both from the free throw line and was 0-12 from the field.
Did some googling. Was about 700ish Bonanza and Pondersosas (same ownership) in the USA around 1990. By 2001, only 300. Today, only 13 total (Ponderosa and Bonanzas) and 9 or 10 of those 13 are Ponderosas, and only 3 or 4 Bonanzas left in the United States. Don't quote me on those numbers. They are close but might not be exact. I did the search last night.
Lebanon is kind of unique that it's only one out of 3 or 4 Bonanzas left in America regarding what once was, an outstanding steak house. We are getting into "Tastee Freeze" territory here with only about 12 Tastee Freezes left in America. Just rare to find one, much like Lebanons Bonanza.
What about Rax? Harlan, Kentucky still has one of those. May have to stop in if I get up to Harlan County to watch a game in their barn this season.
Well, I think it is obvious that what is going on at Lebanon is centered around keeping that kid and his dad as a coach. Look, throwing a kid in an offense that passes a lot is one thing but developing that kid and teaching him how to correctly make reads and dissect a defense and understand the subtleties of playing that position is another thing. Exactly who in this region is the quarterback whisperer? It was Mance...he is gone. My apologies to anyone at Honaker or Lebanon, but who there makes you think they will turn the kid into a D-1 prospect? One dude has the prior experience of working with and developing QBs and look what RV did to him.
At this point the kid is already behind his fellow QBs. He hasn't worked with good speed WRs...so timing is already poor. He doesn't see man/press coverage so he has zero experience throwing against man or even reading if the defense is in man. He certainly hasn't seen disguised coverages nor has been given read/check down authority in a game. Every QB at the 4A and above level has already seen this. And most of them have a dedicated QB coach. If the goal is for pops to coach his kid......that's a bad strategy. If the goal is to have his kid developed.....there really is only one dude around the area that has that resume. It will be interesting to see how this unfolds.
20 hours ago, Gridiron60 said:
I think every team needs a dedicated QB coach who knows how to develop them and maximize a kid’s potential. Nothing against Graham’s staff but I wish they had the one with the resumè that you speak of which I have no clue who that is but I wish the GMen had one.
1 hour ago, Ryan4VT said:
I don’t think it’s Wicks.
The man being referenced above is Edwards at Castlewood, formerly worked under Tiller at Ridgeview, I'm pretty certain.
I'll see Central both Saturday and Monday (against Ridgeview and Dobyns-Bennett). Ridgeview has had more success against Central than anyone, but that was with Frazier coaching. Will be interesting to see if Robinette can have that same kind of success.
Central got almost every call after McAmis picked up a foul near half court and Dotson started working the refs. The officials in this area are obviously intimidated by him.
Maybe the TSSAA refs won't be so intimidated on Monday when Central comes to the TAC... I can only hope anyway. Lol
this was prob the worst HS basketball game I have seen in quite some time, IT WAS UGLY!!! BHC said it was a defensive struggle, it wasn't!!! It was just that bad!!!
I missed the first half since I didn't get off work till 5 but yeah, what I saw it wasn't pretty at all.
Some games actually got in yesterday! Notably, I was at Abingdon and Ridgeview where the Ridgeview girls suffered their first Mountain 7 loss and the boys lost as well:
Look don’t shoot the messenger just telling you all the things I’ve heard. But playing guys who are already hurt. They could have had a decent season if it wasn’t for everyone not being able to play the rest of the season (think there was a total of 11 players out for the year and almost half were during practice). Not saying that’s on him at all. It’s just super unattractive to all of the other athletes at the school when they walk in each day and one of their buddies is hurt.
It was a promising season until.... Honaker put over 50 on you in the first half in the first game of the season. Then it went to hell in a hand basket. Lol
The Flores girl from upper east Tennessee started in the David Crockett system, transferred to Daniel Boone before her freshman season, transferred to Knoxville Catholic before the start of this her sophomore season, and now just this week has transferred back to Boone and is eligible to play for Boone beginning tomorrow.
Yea I’m just counting region d. Know too little about region c. I just know that GW is very good and auburn is also good. Also heard that GW was out 2 starters. Anyone have any confirmation on that?
Article doesn't mention anything specifically, though I didn't see Kirtner's name in the box score, so I assume he was out at the very least. There's no way he's being held scoreless if he's playing.
Auburn hasn't lost in district. They have played a ridiculously tough schedule though, and are currently 7-6. My guess is, the Roanoke Times mistakenly thought Auburn is in the Three Rivers with Alleghany.
Auburn (7-6, 4-1) started the fourth quarter down 43-36, but quickly changed the momentum scoring the first eight points of the final period. Royal capped off the 8-0 run with a three at the 5:13 mark to give the Eagles the lead. Before the three-pointer, Auburn last led at 5-3 early in the first quarter.
George Wythe (8-3, 4-1) regained the lead on their next offensive possession thanks to a 3-pointer from the Maroons’ Holden Luttrell, but just a minute later Royal put the Eagles up for good with back-to-back 3s to make the score 50-46.
Just wanted to add the text from the article for clarity. Not debating you @sixcat. You definitely know more about that district than I do. 🙂
This result surprises me after the Maroons run in the Arby's. Granted Auburn is usually pretty good as well, but the Roanoke Times article on the game said Auburn had already lost in district play? Who did they lose to?
Just noticed that George Wythe is nowhere in @Stelley rankings... Granted they lost to Auburn last night, but any top 10 without G-Dub in it is invalid.
I thought that matchup got changed in that tournament.
13 hours ago, Comegetsum said:
Graham is playing Shady Soring on that Thursday and Eastsids on Saturday. Heard JM wanted some cash to come play in Bristol. So what’s that tell ya about that team in Richmond
Ok, then that has all changed just recently then. I was told as late as last week that Graham and JM were playing in that deal.
I watched GC for first time last night. Graham's better by 6 to 7 points. The entire region is the worst for not just 2D, but also 2C that I've seen since the turn of the century, 23 years. Not only that, region 2B is turrrrrrible. Graham has had probably 8 or 9 teams, maybe more........that are better than this 2023 team since the year 2000, and this years Graham team has a very strong chance to play for a state title against the East, JM. The state of Virginia in Class 2 is that down this year. Worst I've ever seen in my lifetime or memory of HS basketball. This isn't hyperbole. I'm giving my opinion.
The best 3 teams in the state are from 1 region. JM, Greensville County, and Bruton, and if Brunswick wouldn't have dropped from Class 2 down to class 1, it would be 4 teams as 1,2,3, and 4th best from one region (Region A). P.S Floyd is the best in 2C, and they are right there with Graham, but they don't alarm you with the eye test either.
You won't have to wait till March for Graham and John Marshall to play. They play at Virginia High later this month in the Big Shots showcase.
I agree with you on the tournament needing different teams. The coal classic that was in Appalachia back in the day was way better than this. If I remember correctly half the teams were from Virginia and the other half Kentucky teams
That was a good tournament. I remember Haysi playing in that a few times back in the day. Some good games back then.
Dead Horse: Abingdon shouldn't have anything post-season inside the district. All it does is flip the bracket no matter what the sport and changes regional pairings because of district tourney finish.
Abingdon was excluded from the district tournament a few years ago if I recall and they got livid with it. Or maybe that was baseball/softball. It was one of the three sports I remember.
won't be decided until district tourney is over I would imagine.
Both #1s and #2s will be on opposite sides from each other?
swd1 vs m7-4
m7-2 vs swd3
m7-3 vs swd2
m7-1 vs swd4
don't keep up with basketball as much so I'm not sure, but I'm sure it's like football and has too many teams in it for extra revenue. Might be just the top 8 records inside the district/region?
I think typically SWD goes by regular season champ is #1, then tournament champion/tournament runner up if regular season champ also wins tournament is #2, third place game winner is 3 and third place game loser is 4.
Mountain 7 does regular season champ is #1, the other three is based on some kind of compilation between regular season finish and tournament finish since 3A Abingdon is also in the district.
Look how many OT games there were. But I guess people would rather watch blow outs.
I don't think you'd see blowouts if the PVNB would invite teams like West Ridge, Unicoi County, Letcher Central, Pike Central and maybe another SWD team. Instead of having four M7, three Cumberland, and three Hogo.
Yes Arby's typically has blowouts in the first round when it's a local vs. a non local, but after that it's pretty competitive.
Just this year alone, Arby's had:
one of the best games in the history of the tournament with Mentor and George Wythe.
a comeback for the ages with Imhotep (down 27 with 4 minutes left in the third to win over Maryville)
tournament records set with 3's in one game by a team and 3's by a team for the tournament.
Not to mention all the D1 and future power 5 players you're going to see on a yearly basis.
Unfortunately there were only a few folks who saw that 27 point comeback by Imhotep as that was the late game that night and even myself left at that point, because even I feel that a 27 point lead is pretty safe at the high school level.
not so much as "needs to grow" but expand to some teams from outside the region, or at least get to see different match-ups. I was reading the other posts and was under the impression a few matchups are too frequent with the teams playing each other on their regular schedule aside from the tourney. I'm not sure if it hurts/helps playing the same team multiple times a season. It is a nice venue, and good for teams to play on a big floor against possible regional opponents later in the post-season. I don't know the in's and outs of the setup, but maybe try to get the surrounding district champs and solid teams first, along with some tn, ky, and some region c teams that might be possible opponents on the way to richmond.
Yeah, I'm not going to argue with the folks on here anymore about it. I am in the thought process that you are that there needs to be more variety. It has the potential to be a great tournament, but I don't want to spend $10-$15, whatever the session cost is to watch district games in a holiday tournament. It's apparent the majority of the folks on here like this tournament the way it is though, so be it.
I didn't even like the fact that D-B played Maryville last week in the Arby's. Even though it's not a district or even region matchup, it is a decent possibility it could be a substate matchup later down the road.
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Lol. Didn't bicker at them any best I could tell. Yelled at his players a couple times but not the refs.