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So without tyler They lost, but if they had tyler they win by 20. Had Tyler against TV and won, but someone says without shortridge, response is one player doesn't make a team. I'm confused or is there a double standard somewhere. And no one player doesn't make a team and yes it takes 5 to make a team. But please take in to consideration what i'm getting ready to say i don't mean one player is the reason for a teams success, BUT.....In college football the Heismen is given to not so much the MVP but the player who shows he is a gamebreaker and is the difference maker for a team. Take Mark Ingram away from Bama would they be the same, Let Colt play the Championship would the game turned out the same. Before somebody throws a smartA comment this is basketball. Take Jordan away from the bulls do they still win, Kobe away from the Lakers do they? So yes, sometimes maybe a player does make the difference

Hey we all pay our dues, to get playing time, but whos to say Jordan will set the bench his whole time there. Never know he could come out to start.

Trust me i miss being back in Virgina, but shoot that snow yal got, i see that here every week so i don't need to come home for any of that i got enough here. And as far as Hart if he had the teams Moore had, well this settles that, He Didn't so why even bring that up. And who was to say those teams would have played the exact same way if they were coached under Hart, The What If game can be played all night long.

You know, Your are right about all of that. Flemming is the best athlete in the BDD. So i actually agree with you about council as well. But UNC1 i've been good, chilling in this arctic winter That came down from Canada, this state is uninhabitable for the human race. haha what about you??

NO they won the Bdd tourney in '07, I will never forget that game, every other school their cheered as we lost, and as Baldwin fouled out, Simpson fouled out, Horne fouled out, Smith fouled out and we were left to play with only 4 players with 6 mins. left in the game.

Theres only one way to settle this, Take it to the CAGE!!!!!! Or just wait until the next time these teams play.

I agree you should talk to him first, But his my cousin and i haven't spoke to him in about a week. But his reasons for going to see his mother is personal and in no way should that be criticized, I mean the boy has been through a lot in his life so if he wants to spend time with his family so be it. Sports are important to him without a doubt, but family is forever ya know.

haha Hokiepanther, doesn't this conversation tend to come up every year. lets see, a few years ago it was twin valley and grundy going at each on here, before that council and twin valley. Now hurley and twin valley. Brings a lot of fun, and yes you can say your coach works you harder than anyone else, but it comes down to the results so twin valley tends to have those results. Not saying hurley wont have them either just, twin valley in the PAST has had those to prove they work harder because they have gone home with the bdd champ.

WOW, one year changes so much huh, its the same every year, TV doesn't care about the first half hurley sticks close to a 5 point lead maybe even cut it down to 2. Moore yells at them at half time, its a 30 point game. Yes playing with a passion to win always seems to help hurley, but the fact is say whatever WHATEVER you want about Luke shortridge, and say how dirt Josh Smith is, but you have no clue how hard they work, and yes dustin, tyler, and austin have a few years to see if they can match up to those two, but Luke and Josh have something those three dont have the experience in Big Games. Your gonna talk about winning a region game, I say do, you wanna talk about killing twin valley and they have no chance in the words of the movie jerry McGuire "Show me the money" in this case show me the W, when you get it and you do what you say then try to compare to the straight years of dominance TV has had that Luke and Smith have been a part of. When those three do that and make to state twice and play in games at that size and perform at games that size say they are are good as those two. The proof isn't there yet, a few games into the season doesn't mean anything going 12-0 doesn't mean anything until those district games start.

Hurley 16-12, Gary Blankenship hopefully can get over 200 yards and go over a 1000 for the season.

77-61 TV, They are going back to Richmond

Every fan base may take things way to far, but friday or saturday that did not happen. Nothing personal was said about anyone, Besides this issue has already been discussed just with a different school read the No mafia thread no reason to start one with another high school. All this will lead too is bans of fan bases in high school because people take it personal and too far. I go to a ball game to watch the teams play and have fun, and both sides can have fun by cheering back and forth, its not meant to be personal its meant to have a good time and support your team.

This is rediculous a fight has nothing to do with a basketball game between two high school teams. And its a Fan Base almost every college, high school in the country has one. With a full objective of P***ing the other team and fans off. And what you just mentioned they evidently Won that battle if people are wanting to fight. No reason in this world to let a game that happened friday night go past that. Its over its Done nothing can change the fans cheer the players play the coaches coach. Disrespect has Nothing to do with it, like i said its a fan base they do that for a reason.

Me too, he should be his one of the toughest players i ever had a chance to play with. But tonight everyone is so focused on Smith, Hunter, and Garrett. But shew Luke has played huge in 2 games and Jake was on fire tonight it just showes everyone can play. with those 4 Smith, Hunter, Garrett, and Luke 20+ from any of them any given night add Beef or Carter depending on if you want size or speed theres 5 threats then you can go deep to the bench from beef or carter 6th man to jake, brandon, tyler you have a complete team. Everytime i watch them play i can't wait til i watch them again, they are a really exciting team to watch.

No he didnt play, and i heard he may just rest until playoffs to rest the knee