vthokies4life 10 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 It's about time to start its own thread, right? I've really got nothing to say about the game other than I hope we win, and think we will. I do want to give you this quote from John Brandon's weekly piece on Grantland.com (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7299505/the-biggest-week-college-football-really-matter): The Hokies have been almost great for so long that they're easy to forget about. But Beamer and those guys are consistently consistent. This should be a heck of a game. Bud Foster trying to slow down Sammy Watkins & Co. When a fancy team like Clemson starts losing, it's fun to see whether it rights the ship or drowns, and if it does right it against a tough-minded, Beamer-coached squad out for revenge, it'll be quite a trick. The ACC title doesn't mean anything, but beating VT twice in one year would. I think "consistently consistent" is a good way to describe VT football. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 It's about time to start its own thread, right? I've really got nothing to say about the game other than I hope we win, and think we will. I do want to give you this quote from John Brandon's weekly piece on Grantland.com (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7299505/the-biggest-week-college-football-really-matter): I think "consistently consistent" is a good way to describe VT football. Thoughts? I think VT wins. If VT doesn't, there's still a decent chance VT makes a BCS bowl. That would bump everyone up the pecking order, and it could bump UVA up as much as 4 spots. So, that's how my heart is rooting: a very close, hotly contested Clemson win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueTornadoFan 17 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Hokies roll. They win by at least 3 TD's..... If they don't, then quote me..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuceswild 15 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Despite our terrible conference, two teams in a BCS bowl would be great. Too bad VT has to lose for that to be a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie07 11 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Hokies roll. They win by at least 3 TD's..... If they don't, then quote me..... A little crazy there, BTF. But I'll take it, haha. Regardless, VT is licking their chops for this game. They've seen this video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vthokies4life 10 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 I don't necessarily know if this blogger speaks on behalf of many Clemson fans, but he had some interesting things to say about what he wants his Clemson team to look like: http://www.tigernet.com/blogs/plyler/?entry=virginia_tech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuceswild 15 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 I don't necessarily know if this blogger speaks on behalf of many Clemson fans, but he had some interesting things to say about what he wants his Clemson team to look like: http://www.tigernet.com/blogs/plyler/?entry=virginia_tech That made me tear up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunker Bass 27 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Clemson is now Clemson again. VT rolls and then a date with West By-God, I hope. Love that game. Not a VT or WVU fan, but love games where teams hate each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Clemson wins 35-31... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Clemson wins 35-31... This would be the PERFECT result if I was wanting to pick a score that would give VT a slimmer of a chance at an at-large. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 ACC is NOT getting two teams in the BCS...not happening, don't even think about it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacker 82 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Sounds like Dabo has still got a few Gamecock feathers in his craw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 ACC is NOT getting two teams in the BCS...not happening, don't even think about it... You tell me who gets that 4th at-large. A KSU team that didn't finish better than 3rd in its own conference? A potential 3-loss OU? A Michigan team that didn't win its own division? A 3-loss MSU/Wiscy loser? Why not VT, with a loss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend11 32 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 You tell me who gets that 4th at-large. A KSU team that didn't finish better than 3rd in its own conference? A potential 3-loss OU? A Michigan team that didn't win its own division? A 3-loss MSU/Wiscy loser? Why not VT, with a loss? One loss Stanford? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend11 32 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Sounds like Dabo has still got a few Gamecock feathers in his craw. In this video, Dabo says that Clemson is South Carolina's school. I wonder if Dabo checks ESPN SportsNation polls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuceswild 15 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 In this video, Dabo says that Clemson is South Carolina's school. I wonder if Dabo checks ESPN SportsNation polls. Hahahaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcecilgolf 11 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 You tell me who gets that 4th at-large. A KSU team that didn't finish better than 3rd in its own conference? A potential 3-loss OU? A Michigan team that didn't win its own division? A 3-loss MSU/Wiscy loser? Why not VT, with a loss? Stop over thinking it. BCS = LSU vs Alabama Orange = VT vs Big East (WVU) Rose = BIG 10 vs Pac (Wisconsin vs Oregon) Fiesta = Big 12 vs At Large (Okie State vs Stanford) Sugar = At large vs Non AQ (Michigan vs Houston) Why in the world would the sugar bowl pick KSU over Michigan? Or VT over Michigan? All schools will have 2 loses. KSU doesn't travel, VT will have just lost. Michigan is a tier 1 school who has had a miserable last 5 years and just won 10 games. They are excited about their program and would love a trip to Nola. Bottom line Michigan = Tier 1 program in terms of history, tv, and fans VT = Tier 2 program KSU = Maybe a tier 2, could even be a tier 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1inStripes 932 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Here were my predictions earlier today based on who I think wins this weekend: Rose: Wisconsin vs. Oregon Fiesta: Oklahoma vs. Houston Sugar: Michigan vs. Stanford Orange: West Virginia vs. Virginia Tech Title Game: Alabama vs. LSU ***I could see Stanford and Houston swapping locations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 One loss Stanford? They're one of the three. Alabama, Stanford, Houston/Boise (with a win/loss respectively). There are 4 at-larges for the 10 games (including national title game). Stop over thinking it. BCS = LSU vs Alabama Orange = VT vs Big East (WVU) Rose = BIG 10 vs Pac (Wisconsin vs Oregon) Fiesta = Big 12 vs At Large (Okie State vs Stanford) Sugar = At large vs Non AQ (Michigan vs Houston) Why in the world would the sugar bowl pick KSU over Michigan? Or VT over Michigan? All schools will have 2 loses. KSU doesn't travel, VT will have just lost. Michigan is a tier 1 school who has had a miserable last 5 years and just won 10 games. They are excited about their program and would love a trip to Nola. Bottom line Michigan = Tier 1 program in terms of history, tv, and fans VT = Tier 2 program KSU = Maybe a tier 2, could even be a tier 3 Y so cranky? Michigan would have: 1. Worse overall record than VT. 2. Lower BCS rank by several spots. 3. No conference championship game appearance. 4. Worse losses (MSU/Iowa worse than Clemson 2x). You're going on nebulous, subjective standards like "prestige", I'm going on objective numbers. The ENTIRE objective profile would be in favor of VT. The Fiesta/Sugar would be skewered for taking Michigan over VT, and rightfully so. KSU even has a better profile than Michigan. The real debate should/would be KSU/VT. But it won't be. If you can find OBJECTIVE evidence backing up Michigan over VT, present it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuceswild 15 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 They're one of the three. Alabama, Stanford, Houston/Boise (with a win/loss respectively).There are 4 at-larges for the 10 games (including national title game). Y so cranky? Michigan would have: 1. Worse overall record than VT. 2. Lower BCS rank by several spots. 3. No conference championship game appearance. 4. Worse losses (MSU/Iowa worse than Clemson 2x). You're going on nebulous, subjective standards like "prestige", I'm going on objective numbers. The ENTIRE objective profile would be in favor of VT. The Fiesta/Sugar would be skewered for taking Michigan over VT, and rightfully so. KSU even has a better profile than Michigan. The real debate should/would be KSU/VT. But it won't be. If you can find OBJECTIVE evidence backing up Michigan over VT, present it. Wouldn't Mich and VT have the same number of losses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Wouldn't Mich and VT have the same number of losses? Not the same number of wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuceswild 15 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Not the same number of wins. True. Would that matter? You always hear them speak of x-loss teams getting bids. Mich and VT would both be 2 loss teams. I'm not saying that's a justifiable case, its just how I feel it goes most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 True. Would that matter? You always hear them speak of x-loss teams getting bids. Mich and VT would both be 2 loss teams. I'm not saying that's a justifiable case, its just how I feel it goes most of the time. I understand where you're coming from, but Michigan has quite possibly the WORST profile of any of the teams competing from that last spot, and it drives me batty to see people extolling the virtues of Michigan. If OSU were to beat OU and Houston beating Southern Miss, the only 1-loss teams would be OSU, Alabama, Stanford, and Boise. OSU would be its conference champion, Alabama's the BCS #2, and Stanford is at-large #3. Houston would knock Boise out as the non-BCS AQ. Need one more sport, and it has to be a 2-loss teams. If VT loses, OSU wins, Houston wins, LSU wins, here's the likely complete list of 2-loss teams: 1. VT 2. Arkansas 3. Oregon 4. KSU 5. South Carolina 6. MSU/Wiscy winner 7. Michigan 8. TCU Arkansas is ineligible due to the 2-per-conference rule. Oregon is the Pac-12 champ. MSU/Wiscy is the Big X+II champ. TCU is eliminated by the non-BCS qualifier (Houston) That leaves FOUR and ONLY FOUR teams that have a shot: VT, KSU, South Cackalacky, and Michigan. The order I listed them isn't a coincidence; it's how they're ranked right now. VT would be the only one of them that made a conference title game. VT would be the only one with 11 wins. VT would almost certainly have the highest BCS rank of any of those 4 teams. VT and KSU would be the only ones to have both its losses come to BCS teams. That's how I see it, anyway. Were I to rank it on who "should" be in, it would be: VT, KSU, USC-South, Michigan, in that order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan 3,569 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 They're one of the three. Alabama, Stanford, Houston/Boise (with a win/loss respectively). Boise is NOT eligible for a BCS bowl this season...TCU is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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