Lance 228 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 http://www.wcyb.com/news/Appalachian-Power-asking-for-rate-increase/-/14590844/19556410/-/evpkn1z/-/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futbolking 766 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 http://www.wcyb.com/news/Appalachian-Power-asking-for-rate-increase/-/14590844/19556410/-/evpkn1z/-/index.html At least it's better than the Insurance Companies raising everybody's rates 10% or more every year for the past decade without having to prove why they need to raise them in the first place... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 http://www.wcyb.com/news/Appalachian-Power-asking-for-rate-increase/-/14590844/19556410/-/evpkn1z/-/index.html Our area's rates were artificially deflated for 50 years. This is just energy prices reverting to the mean, unfortunately. AEP's Price/KwH is the 2nd lowest in the state for coal-based energy and well below the average for the rest of the state. Even after the last decade of rate hikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Our area's rates were artificially deflated for 50 years. This is just energy prices reverting to the mean, unfortunately. AEP's Price/KwH is the 2nd lowest in the state for coal-based energy and well below the average for the rest of the state. Even after the last decade of rate hikes. could care less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 could care less. I'm glad that you care about this. It's important to know why AEP is requesting such rate hikes instead of pissing and moaning while being wholly clueless about that which you're pissing and moaning. The question then becomes, however, HOW much less could you care? Do you care significantly, or is it just the generic level of care? Others probably couldn't care less, but I gots to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 I'm glad that you care about this. It's important to know why AEP is requesting such rate hikes instead of pissing and moaning while being wholly clueless about that which you're pissing and moaning. The question then becomes, however, HOW much less could you care? Do you care significantly, or is it just the generic level of care? Others probably couldn't care less, but I gots to know. my level of care is inversely proportional to your level of smartass. by the way, if AEP had a clue they would just blame it on Obama's EPA and the whole "war on coal" thing...no one would question it, and would probably ask for a higher increase...coal by god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wave316 64 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 my level of care is inversely proportional to your level of smartass. by the way, if AEP had a clue they would just blame it on Obama's EPA and the whole "war on coal" thing...no one would question it, and would probably ask for a higher increase...coal by god. Good one Lance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 my level of care is inversely proportional to your level of smartass. by the way, if AEP had a clue they would just blame it on Obama's EPA and the whole "war on coal" thing...no one would question it, and would probably ask for a higher increase...coal by god. Ouch, really made my green eyes blue with that one. /Sarcasm. You made a douchey post, and I popped you for it. You can't really play the "couldn't care less" card when YOU'RE THE FREAKING ORIGINAL POSTER. Instead of trying to have an intelligent discussion as to why those rate hikes are occurring, you made a nonsensical insult, which you hilariously bungled. I would try to further discuss market and political influences on this rate hike, but I would be wasting my time. There's no use in having a discussion with someone who refuses to listen to reason and holds unshakable biases. i wonder what 4th-graderish response I'll see to this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Ouch, really made my green eyes blue with that one. /Sarcasm. You made a douchey post, and I popped you for it. You can't really play the "couldn't care less" card when YOU'RE THE FREAKING ORIGINAL POSTER. Instead of trying to have an intelligent discussion as to why those rate hikes are occurring, you made a nonsensical insult, which you hilariously bungled. I would try to further discuss market and political influences on this rate hike, but I would be wasting my time. There's no use in having a discussion with someone who refuses to listen to reason and holds unshakable biases. i wonder what 4th-graderish response I'll see to this post. I know the company line on why they want to constantly increase the electric bills in this area, my response of could care less was directed in that direction, because I really don't care. If you think AEP is losing money in this area or any area all you have to do is look at their bottom line...they are crushing it. I really don't care why they want a rate increase, all they do is constantly request rate increases from the SCC, they have them lined up to infinity (and beyond - for you Toy Story fans). Nothing really to debate here if you think about it. Good day sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 I know the company line on why they want to constantly increase the electric bills in this area, my response of could care less was directed in that direction, because I really don't care. If you think AEP is losing money in this area or any area all you have to do is look at their bottom line...they are crushing it. I really don't care why they want a rate increase, all they do is constantly request rate increases from the SCC, they have them lined up to infinity (and beyond - for you Toy Story fans). Nothing really to debate here if you think about it. Good day sir. Now that the dust has settled, let's talk. It's extremely meaningful to know why AEP is requesting rate hikes annually. It's the difference between whether AEP is just doing this capriciously, or whether there is actually a method to the madness. If all a person does is squawk like a chicken every time AEP goes to the cookie jar, it loses its effect. If you cry wolf, people are eventually going to start disregarding what you say and mocking you. And our legislators ARE mocking us. Ken Cuccinelli, the next governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia, gave a powerful set of town hall lectures showing the following: (1) For 50 years, AEP ran at a significant loss in Appalachia to generate the coal power that would be subsidized by higher rates outside the region. (2) AEP can't justify running at a loss in Appalachia with coal on the decline. (3) AEP, even after a decade of rate hikes, is still the 2nd lowest (of 34) coal-based energy providers in VA. (4) SWVA is so economically depressed as a whole that AEP cannot justify a lump rate hike, and must do so incrementally. Maybe this area would prefer Dominion, who would have no reservations with charging 30% more on our light bills. No one likes to see the price of utilities jump. I sure don't. But bleating like a sheep with its wool on fire over something that is entirely fiscally justifiable will diminish the effect of our anger when we REALLY need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1inStripes 935 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 ODP also is requesting a rate hike I noticed in yesterdays KTN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Now that the dust has settled, let's talk. It's extremely meaningful to know why AEP is requesting rate hikes annually. It's the difference between whether AEP is just doing this capriciously, or whether there is actually a method to the madness. If all a person does is squawk like a chicken every time AEP goes to the cookie jar, it loses its effect. If you cry wolf, people are eventually going to start disregarding what you say and mocking you. And our legislators ARE mocking us. Ken Cuccinelli, the next governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia, gave a powerful set of town hall lectures showing the following: (1) For 50 years, AEP ran at a significant loss in Appalachia to generate the coal power that would be subsidized by higher rates outside the region. (2) AEP can't justify running at a loss in Appalachia with coal on the decline. (3) AEP, even after a decade of rate hikes, is still the 2nd lowest (of 34) coal-based energy providers in VA. (4) SWVA is so economically depressed as a whole that AEP cannot justify a lump rate hike, and must do so incrementally. Maybe this area would prefer Dominion, who would have no reservations with charging 30% more on our light bills. No one likes to see the price of utilities jump. I sure don't. But bleating like a sheep with its wool on fire over something that is entirely fiscally justifiable will diminish the effect of our anger when we REALLY need it. you must have had a lot of coffee lately. All i said was AEP is at it again and posted a link to the rate hike...you've run wild with it...lmao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 ODP also is requesting a rate hike I noticed in yesterdays KTN. Dominion is one of the higher cost providers (nearly 30% higher than AEP). Opposing that would be a more legitimate gripe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuceswild 15 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Is Cuccinelli the loony bin who thinks Obama isn't a citizen, swears gas emissions aren't harmful to our environment, and favors abstinence only sex-ed programs? Or is that someone else? For the record, I'm agree with your take on AEP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swvacsas2 15 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 A lot of these hikes are transitioning related to either other fuel sources or plant retrofitting etc. Cost is being passed on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Is Cuccinelli the loony bin who thinks Obama isn't a citizen, swears gas emissions aren't harmful to our environment, and favors abstinence only sex-ed programs? Or is that someone else? For the record, I'm agree with your take on AEP. That's Cooch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuceswild 15 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 That's Cooch. Thanks for not calling me out for saying "I'm agree". You're a real bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Thanks for not calling me out for saying "I'm agree". You're a real bro. I'm agree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 and just to be fair UVAO, I do apologize for not carrying on a legit conversation with you on this...but, honestly I just don't have it in me today to do so. I understand what you are saying and I really don't have anything to dispute or add to it...I was just pointing out they were working on yet another one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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