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With the Patriots winning the Super Bowl we now have 3 NFL QB's with 4 SB wins. There has been much debate in the media as to where Brady stacks up against the other best all time QB's. I was just curious how some of you would rank these 3 qb's?
 
Below are the career Super Bowl stats on all 3 guys.
 
Joe Montana 4-0 with 11 TD's, 0 int's and an average QB rating of 127.8
Terry Bradshaw 4-0 with 9 TD's, 4 int's and an average QB rating of 112.8
Tom Brady 4-2 with 13 TD's, 4 int's and an average QB rating of 95.3
 
I would definetly put Monanta first. I felt that way even before I looked up the statistics. You can't really argue with a guy who was 4-0 in 4 SB appearances and never threw an Int. 
 
It's hard to pick between Bradshaw and Brady. The stats say Bradshaw and two of Brady's wins came off of the kicking foot of Adam Vinatieri and the latest win was a result of a bone head offensive call by Seattle and an interception by the Patriot's D. Also, I was a Raiders fan when the tuck rule game happened so that doesn't help Mr. Brady out in this debate either lol.
 
I will give Brady this, he has clearly set himself apart from Peyton in that debate but as far as how he stacks up against the other two 4 timers I would put him a close third behind Bradshaw, and both clearly behind Joe Montana.

With the Patriots winning the Super Bowl we now have 3 NFL QB's with 4 SB wins. There has been much debate in the media as to where Brady stacks up against the other best all time QB's. I was just curious how some of you would rank these 3 qb's?
 
Below are the career Super Bowl stats on all 3 guys.
 
Joe Montana 4-0 with 11 TD's, 0 int's and an average QB rating of 127.8
Terry Bradshaw 4-0 with 9 TD's, 4 int's and an average QB rating of 112.8
Tom Brady 4-2 with 13 TD's, 4 int's and an average QB rating of 95.3
 
I would definetly put Monanta first. I felt that way even before I looked up the statistics. You can't really argue with a guy who was 4-0 in 4 SB appearances and never threw an Int. 
 
It's hard to pick between Bradshaw and Brady. The stats say Bradshaw and two of Brady's wins came off of the kicking foot of Adam Vinatieri and the latest win was a result of a bone head offensive call by Seattle and an interception by the Patriot's D. Also, I was a Raiders fan when the tuck rule game happened so that doesn't help Mr. Brady out in this debate either lol.
 
I will give Brady this, he has clearly set himself apart from Peyton in that debate but as far as how he stacks up against the other two 4 timers I would put him a close third behind Bradshaw, and both clearly behind Joe Montana.

With the Patriots winning the Super Bowl we now have 3 NFL QB's with 4 SB wins. There has been much debate in the media as to where Brady stacks up against the other best all time QB's. I was just curious how some of you would rank these 3 qb's?
 
Below are the career Super Bowl stats on all 3 guys.
 
Joe Montana 4-0 with 11 TD's, 0 int's and an average QB rating of 127.8
Terry Bradshaw 4-0 with 9 TD's, 4 int's and an average QB rating of 112.8
Tom Brady 4-2 with 13 TD's, 4 int's and an average QB rating of 95.3
 
I would definetly put Monanta first. I felt that way even before I looked up the statistics. You can't really argue with a guy who was 4-0 in 4 SB appearances and never threw an Int. 
 
It's hard to pick between Bradshaw and Brady. The stats say Bradshaw and two of Brady's wins came off of the kicking foot of Adam Vinatieri and the latest win was a result of a bone head offensive call by Seattle and an interception by the Patriot's D. Also, I was a Raiders fan when the tuck rule game happened so that doesn't help Mr. Brady out in this debate either lol.
 
I will give Brady this, he has clearly set himself apart from Peyton in that debate but as far as how he stacks up against the other two 4 timers I would put him a close third behind Bradshaw, and both clearly behind Joe Montana.

Ps. I didn't see that this was already being discussed on the shoutbox until after I posted my thread lol. I think there is a lot of different things to discuss on this topic. Look forward to reading your thoughts.

With the Patriots winning the Super Bowl we now have 3 NFL QB's with 4 SB wins. There has been much debate in the media as to where Brady stacks up against the other best all time QB's. I was just curious how some of you would rank these 3 qb's?
 
Below are the career Super Bowl stats on all 3 guys.
 
Joe Montana 4-0 with 11 TD's, 0 int's and an average QB rating of 127.8
Terry Bradshaw 4-0 with 9 TD's, 4 int's and an average QB rating of 112.8
Tom Brady 4-2 with 13 TD's, 4 int's and an average QB rating of 95.3
 
I would definetly put Monanta first. I felt that way even before I looked up the statistics. You can't really argue with a guy who was 4-0 in 4 SB appearances and never threw an Int. 
 
It's hard to pick between Bradshaw and Brady. The stats say Bradshaw and two of Brady's wins came off of the kicking foot of Adam Vinatieri and the latest win was a result of a bone head offensive call by Seattle and an interception by the Patriot's D. Also, I was a Raiders fan when the tuck rule game happened so that doesn't help Mr. Brady out in this debate either lol.
 
I will give Brady this, he has clearly set himself apart from Peyton in that debate but as far as how he stacks up against the other two 4 timers I would put him a close third behind Bradshaw, and both clearly behind Joe Montana.

Ps. I didn't see that this was already being discussed on the shoutbox until after I posted my thread lol. I think there is a lot of different things to discuss on this topic. Look forward to reading your thoughts.

With the Patriots winning the Super Bowl we now have 3 NFL QB's with 4 SB wins. There has been much debate in the media as to where Brady stacks up against the other best all time QB's. I was just curious how some of you would rank these 3 qb's?
 
Below are the career Super Bowl stats on all 3 guys.
 
Joe Montana 4-0 with 11 TD's, 0 int's and an average QB rating of 127.8
Terry Bradshaw 4-0 with 9 TD's, 4 int's and an average QB rating of 112.8
Tom Brady 4-2 with 13 TD's, 4 int's and an average QB rating of 95.3
 
I would definetly put Monanta first. I felt that way even before I looked up the statistics. You can't really argue with a guy who was 4-0 in 4 SB appearances and never threw an Int. 
 
It's hard to pick between Bradshaw and Brady. The stats say Bradshaw and two of Brady's wins came off of the kicking foot of Adam Vinatieri and the latest win was a result of a bone head offensive call by Seattle and an interception by the Patriot's D. Also, I was a Raiders fan when the tuck rule game happened so that doesn't help Mr. Brady out in this debate either lol.
 
I will give Brady this, he has clearly set himself apart from Peyton in that debate but as far as how he stacks up against the other two 4 timers I would put him a close third behind Bradshaw, and both clearly behind Joe Montana.

After the season that Tech had, I really don't think you are in any position to poke fun at anyone. I would be worried about getting my own house in order rather that talking smack to your in state rival who nearly beat you and sent you home for the holidays.

The Jets made 2 consecutive AFC Championship Game appearances not too long ago.  Don't know if I'd consider them one of the worst 5.
 
I'm shocked at the amount of incompetency in NFL front offices.  It's like they make decisions the same way that Congress made decisions about the U.S. economy in South Park.  But there are some franchises who are especially ignorant:
 
(1) Browns.  Bottom of the barrel.
(2) Redskins.  Should be #1 on the strength of the RGIII trade alone, but still, Cleveland's worse.
(3) Jaguars.  They are probably #1, but no one cares enough to rank them that lowly.
(4) Lions.  Historical incompetence, and the 0-16 thing.  Bonus points for being not dog meat lately.
(5) Raiders.  Made a Super Bowl 13 seasons ago, but the Crazy Man's dead now, so they'll improve. 

I haven't looked at the video online because I don't want to see someone fataly struck by a racecar. I did see the video on Foxnews which stopped the footage just before Tony struck him. There is no doubt that Tony is a hot head and can be very aggresive at times but I can't imagine he intentionally tried to hit this you man. From what I have read and heard concerning the matter it sounds like the other driver made a dangerous move walking out so close to the cars on the track and that the car ahead of Tony almost hit him.
I think it was an accident plain and simple. Both he and Tony probably could have made better choices to avoid the accident but I don't think you can condemn Tony based so heavily on his past.
I think Tony made a wise move that showed consideration for the family by choosing not to race at Watkins Glen. I could forsee NASCAR instituting a rule in their series that prohibits drivers from walking toward cars on the track in the future to avoid an incident like this, in one of their series.
 
Just a sad situation and my heart goes out to the Ward family and to Tony.

I haven't looked at the video online because I don't want to see someone fataly struck by a racecar. I did see the video on Foxnews which stopped the footage just before Tony struck him. There is no doubt that Tony is a hot head and can be very aggresive at times but I can't imagine he intentionally tried to hit this you man. From what I have read and heard concerning the matter it sounds like the other driver made a dangerous move walking out so close to the cars on the track and that the car ahead of Tony almost hit him.
I think it was an accident plain and simple. Both he and Tony probably could have made better choices to avoid the accident but I don't think you can condemn Tony based so heavily on his past.
I think Tony made a wise move that showed consideration for the family by choosing not to race at Watkins Glen. I could forsee NASCAR instituting a rule in their series that prohibits drivers from walking toward cars on the track in the future to avoid an incident like this, in one of their series.
 
Just a sad situation and my heart goes out to the Ward family and to Tony.

Yeah, I think she is out in left field on this one. I do believe our government is more and more pushing us into a socialistic society where they take from the hardworking to give to others who they claim need it more but I think some people who feel similar to me on this go on too many witch hunts and see socialism creeping in in places where it is not.
 
As far as soccer and the world cup, I will check espn.com to see how the US is doing as long as we are still in the tournament but if and when they are eliminated I won't pay it a second thought. I give soccer players props for their athleticism and talent because you have to be in very good shape to play soccer. That being said, that is all the credit I will give them. There isn't nearly enough scoring. To use a football term, the ball isn't in the red zone that often so there isn't even the threat of scoring very often.
 
In my opinion it is just boring. I looked at a soccer stats sheet and with the exception of goalie saves the only stats you can record is offsides, fouls, corner kicks, assists, and goals. So basically if you aren't committing a penalty or scoring a goal you did nothing significant during the whole game lol. In baseball you have hits, rbi's, obp, doubles, triples etc. in addition to actually scoring. Same in basketball rebounds, assists, steals; Football passing yards, rushing yards, sacks, interceptions etc.
So in my opinion soccer isn't communist just boring lol.
69 days until Professional American Football season starts!!!!

Oh where to begin lol. The entire country would be better off if Harry Reid never went to a Washington Redskins game again or for that matter just never went back to Washington D.C. at all. We have far more important issues for the government to be focusing in than a NFL team mascot.
Also, even if it weren't politicians pushing this, the whole argument is still juvenile and petty. Why is it a crime if a small group of people are offended by something. There comes a time when you just have to overlook certain minority opinions no matter how loud they yell. If you don't, then you give random radical minorities the power to change the entire nation. I mean if the Redskins are forced to change their names where does it stop? Whose to stop someone from complaining that Notre Dame needs to change their mascot because it depicts people of Irish descent as being violent and wanting to fight.
Finally, if Harry Reid really cares about the Native American Indians then why doesn't he push some legislation to help them get some of their land back and provide more opportunities for them to get better jobs so they are better able to provide for their families. I personally think the Native Americans have more to complain about than any other minority but changing the name of a football team isn't going to make their day to day life any better or easier. If these people who say they care about the Native Americans really do, then prove it by doing something meaningful to help them rather than going on the news and talking about how racist and offensive a NFL team name is.
 
The inmates are running the asylum!!!

I think you're exactly right that these five guys will likely find their way back into a terrorist group and will more than likely carry out attacks somewhere. I don't understand for the life of me why our president thinks that you can negotiate with terrorists and that you can just be nice to them and somehow they will no longer want to attack us. The Taliban is not going to hate us any less because we released 5 of their guys. Instead they will laugh at our stupidity and will use those same guys to try and hurt us. When it comes to dealing with terrorists I like Teddy's philosophy of speaking softly and carrying a big stick.

Our president doing something
(1) illegal and
(2) against our Nation's interest?
 

 
Worthless deserter got 6 actual soldiers killed. He should've rotted in Afghanistan until Jesus deals with him.

You are really setting yourself up to look foolish by building a National Championship Trophy Case for a trophy you haven't earned yet. If the new AD was the one who made the desicion to have the case removed then that is a good sign for Tech's future. More changes are needed though if Tech hopes to win a National Championship. I think Beamer and his staff has taken Tech as far as they can. Tech will not win a National Chmapionship with the current coaching staff.
On the other hand I do think Beamer should be respected for building such a solid program and I hope Tech will let him leave on his terms unlike Bowden and Fla. St.

You are really setting yourself up to look foolish by building a National Championship Trophy Case for a trophy you haven't earned yet. If the new AD was the one who made the desicion to have the case removed then that is a good sign for Tech's future. More changes are needed though if Tech hopes to win a National Championship. I think Beamer and his staff has taken Tech as far as they can. Tech will not win a National Chmapionship with the current coaching staff.
On the other hand I do think Beamer should be respected for building such a solid program and I hope Tech will let him leave on his terms unlike Bowden and Fla. St.

Yes, I'm sure the fact that Junior had 6 prior restrictor plate points race wins before yesterday, had finished runner up in 3 of the past 4 Daytona 500's, and that two of his team mates finish in the top 5 along with him had nothing to do with his victory. Nascar planned the whole thing. Man, you would think with Nascar being so good at fixing outcomes they could have at least orchestrated a 1-2 finish for Junior and the #3 and maybe have even gotten Danica in the top 5.....

I've watched Nascar for over 20 years and the quality of racing has certainly declined and I don't like Nascar nearly as much today as I used to but thinking Nascar rigged qualifying to get the #3 on the pole is a stretch. All of the RCR cars were fast, including RCR affiliated cars like Martin Truex. Also there is no way you can rig a car to win a pole on a 2 1/2 mile track and still have the guys behind him within a couple hundredths of a second of his time. It might be a fun conspiracy to talk about but it's not realistic. Plus if Nascar was in the business of rigging things then Dale jr. would have won far more races over the past few years than he has.

I've watched Nascar for over 20 years and the quality of racing has certainly declined and I don't like Nascar nearly as much today as I used to but thinking Nascar rigged qualifying to get the #3 on the pole is a stretch. All of the RCR cars were fast, including RCR affiliated cars like Martin Truex. Also there is no way you can rig a car to win a pole on a 2 1/2 mile track and still have the guys behind him within a couple hundredths of a second of his time. It might be a fun conspiracy to talk about but it's not realistic. Plus if Nascar was in the business of rigging things then Dale jr. would have won far more races over the past few years than he has.