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I am not trying to badmouth richlands. i have nothing but respect for richlands and what they do as a program. They have great players, tremendous coaches and will definitely be in contention for a state crown. You have some people who cant have a mature discussion without being insulting.

The bristol paper must be making up fake stats around 480 yards worth. It must have been an illusion that a td was called back. Upon further research it was two all-region kids who started both ways for CS not playing that must have been an illusion. It was said "to be the man you gotta beat the man" Let me ask you this, who is the man in region four this year? Don't think too long either. Damn son you got their 9 best and they still won. If they spotted you one more two way starter you might have gotten them.

Yes without a doubt cs beat graham badly don't really care. Comical comparison maybe but when the td was called back against cs it would have made it 35-14 tack the last one on it's 42-21. The most comical thing is cs had almost 500 yards in the game. Would have had 600 had two penalties not occurred on two huge gains. Comedy is four first team on d giving up those kind of numbers. Btw the funniest thing of all was mentioned on the radio cs top two players (two way starters) were injured and didn't play at all. Good thing they didn't but hey that's comedy for ya. You gave up 35 to their 18 best and could have easily been 42. Might have been more had they played but you know it's a bad comparison since you gave up 35 and graham gave up 42 a week before when they had all their players.

Let me break this down 1st half richlands 14 cs 7 2nd half cs 28 richlands 7*with a touchdown called back. graham would have faired better if they didnt play a state champion and state semifinalist the first two games. guess they could have scheduled a lot of single a schools so they could win more games. But being slow seems to be a problem for a lot of people

I didn't get into an analysis competition. I posed a question about the number of points they scored and to my best knowledge stated what facts I had. Graham was scrappy and moved the ball on everyone. They scored 40+ several times. I don't know that they deserved four all region selections. Either way score was 20-14 at the half with richlands. They played with them for a half before richlands pulled away. A blowout is beating a team soundly for four quarters.

They did pretty well against the swd. Didn't they score at least 20 against everybody and 35 or better against three district teams. They didn't fair so well out of district. What is amazing to me is the two regional champions had so few on the all region team and graham had four. Works out funny sometimes.

Numbers turned in to the state indicate between 750 and 800 per vhsl

Didn't Bluefield and Christiansburg scrimmage? how did that go?

If this is in fact true who walks through the revolving door next?

Couldn't make the game because of work. Who was it that got ejected for throwing punches?

Seems like you're comparing hurley to pulaski and I would guess their power rating. Also I would say region d and c seeded teams don't compare to the top 3 in d4 region 4. Hey you can argue a lot of things I never said strength of schedule determined power points only that it creates a gray area. If the teams you play schedule cupcakes it inflates your rating with their easy wins see grundy and abingdon. Maybe pulaski should have scheduled some cupcakes. Then they would make the playoffs like some other aa schools. You make some excellent points and it just goes to show the flaws in the system.

Northside may be the region three team and there are still four teams left in region four

I guess you could look at the schedule in this way CS played the number 1,2,3 seeded teams in the region four d4 playoffs and played the 2,5 seed from region three division three and region three d4 seed five equalling 7 aa playoff opponents while the tornadoes have only played one division 4 opponent who was a four seed in region four and of course the rest of the swd who made the playoffs 5 aa playoff teams in all with lebanon gate city and powell valley being the single a playoff teams.remaining teams abingdon wins versus two weak single a teams and grundy. Grundy 4 wins versus very weak teams and one versus a decent tazewell team.remainging teams for CS PH-Roanoke aaa not very good but managed three wins pulaski who must have played the the toughest schedule in D4 played three one seeds, two two seeds, a AAA playoff team and was in basically every game they played except for a few. Blacksburg same schedule as pulaski they played three one seeds and two twoseeds also. If I were making an argument no doubt this would be mine. Forgot to mention of course CS played d3 seed #5 in graham. This is the gray area argument on power points and the tie. But none of this really matters anyway its who scores the most on the scoreboard.

debating is a form of arguing isnt it and it will always be opinions that are debated

Good to hear they are healthy.

A guy at work today said he heard one of the johnson boys had a bad injury. Sure hope this is a rumor and only a rumor.

You know you are right. They have not won a regional title this decade I guess. I guess by your definition they have not competed with the man either. I was making reference to facts that they have played some pretty good competition and won or hung right in there. Hard to believe the next smallest team in the river ridge is almost 1100 and the biggest is 1600.

Didn't mean to touch a nerve big fella just saying they have competed with the man and yes they have beat the man and yes apparently losing to the d4 champion by a touchdown and a point over a two year period is definitely competing with the man. A school with 1300 kids year in and year out. I have no fight with you on this just stating some facts. Oh and those two games were within the last EIGHT YEARS

Have to add one more thing they lost four games in 2004 one to salem 28-21 salem was state champions. lost to gretna 49-28 in the playoffs the year gretna won state with vic hall. They won two river ridge games that year going 2-3 in the district finised in the bottom half I would assume but competed with two state champions. All info per vhsl-reference.com if it is correct

Not to be an ass but per vhsl reference over the last decade they have made the playoffs five times beat salem when they won the state title in 2000. Finished with 8 wins or better four times. Went 9-1 in 2005 losing to salem 7-6 that year they went 14-0 and won the state title. I'm not sure about all the teams they play but they managed six winning seasons in their district and had a bad season in 2002 going 0-10 think that's when the split with hv ocurred not sure but I'd say they have been worth more than a shit. Someone should do a little research before making a statement like that. And to finish if cave and richlands play I'm sure it will be a great game but they both have to win this week. May the best team win.

salem by a bunch

Man you must really have nothing else to do

Great response. The power of purpose is one of God's great gifts and when we live and work for purpose we are rewarded in all that we do. those who don't live for purpose are punished for their idleness of mind and learn to make excuses when things don't go their way. Like I said earlier there is no big secret in Salem, Richlands or any program like them. It takes time and effort. If it's not there drop the football program there is no need to have one.

People will question a successful program. Salem has been scrutinized for years and will continue to be. Willis white, salem city leadership and the entire community pulled together and committed their resources to one common goal of making Salem the best program in the state. I read on vapreps they have averaged 10 wins a year for the last 27 years. The richlands program is following the same formula and as long as everyone continues to pull together the success will continue.Many communities have the financial and human resources to pull this off but because of power struggles they can't seem to pull it together. It takes a special group of people to get it done. What pisses people off is they think something subversive is going on and that's the only way they can explain why others are successful and they aren't. There is no secret when people all share a common vision, accept their role and work their asses off to accomplish it, when this happens you get Salem and Richlands type programs. This is the secret formula of which there is no secret.

Ph won 26-23