Anyone else find that article kind of tough to read?
Regardless, the GMen looking strong early on. I doubt they can knock off GC but they are going to be a TOUGH runner up coming out of the Region D. If the stars align and Carlock schemes up something to contain McClung or Ervin and the GMen score at will it could be an interesting game, however.
They’d get smashed. E&H is a pretty darned good team in the ODAC (7-0), and UVA-Wise is D2 and isn’t chopped liver there, either (5-6). The sheer depth and experience disparity alone would choke Gate City. Not saying McClung and Ervin wouldn’t give great accounts of themselves, but basketball is a team game, and there’s a steep drop off after #2...
This. Could not have said this any better.
Once GC sees some good competition in the Arby's SWVA and the rest of the state of VA will know just how good GC is. They should be the favorite to win the 2A championship IMO though.
Alright, Dickie V, I'm starting to get a little worried here!
Sixcat, don't ruin our good run of getting along lol!
Although basketball season is firing up which is traditionally where we disagree mostly... toss in havok into the mix and it is a free for all between all three of us.
I said someone deleted one tweet about Appo having a crew of refs paid for and how union cant play us and play refs. Its not there no more.
I dont cuss, even if u meet me personally, profanity is not in my vocab. yall had swva fans calling appo fans on preps “b!$ches” and to “eat a d!@k” after disagreeing. The same appo fans that say i need to shut my mouth and be quiet are same ones probably giving likes to them post cause they wanna paint face.....lol...they fake and if they were grown men they would approach me as such and talk to me about their disagreements with me.
Sorry advocate. We are a bunch of boys on here. We will man up and chat with you in person one day perhaps .
I thought you said your days are numbered? Why not leave now? It is a great time for it.
I think the whole "Refs cheated us" and "Appo paid refs to hit the road with them" superseded the congratulations that may have been posted. I think all we read was how bad yall was cheated...so it was hard for anyone to give yall props on there.
Judging a group using the perspective of a few (or one). Classic move!
My days are limited here....I will tell ya that...this is the lions den...I understand that and expected it. Im Central VA all day. I was disappointed in Heritage losing this weekend....
Unlike YALL...I have great respect of how yall back ya teams and the fan base yall bring to your games for not only your team but for SWVA teams. I moved to Hampton, VA last year and if a team from CVA comes this way to play for states, you dang right im rooting for em.
Funny you say that though @Dick_Vitale....Many on here have identity crisis as well..giving mad props to us on preps and then refraining on game predictions. On here saying Union had the recipe to beat Appo. dadadadada, NOT ONE TIME did i read someone say that on preps that yall had this master key to unlock what could beat Appo. SO you are coffee calling the kettle black....
Not really sure why you feel the needs to try and use "y'all" in your second paragraph. Literally goes back to the whole offensive statement I made.
TBH, I cannot follow your third paragraph at all. I have re read it 3 times... still clueless.
It is one thing to argue and disagree on preps... it encompasses the whole state. But why come on this forum, talk up SWVA and the teams, and then run to preps and be a prick? Two-faced.
If your days are numbered why not just go ahead and allow me to show you the door out of here.
DANG BRO! You was all over!!!!! great commentary. Now that Appo is going to have a down year. YES, IM SAYING IT!!! many in Appo get PO'd when i say this...So what, I ate humble pie on this team. I said we would be contenders with a chance of winning states. I had no idea we was going to be that good. I know for a fact...next year is a rebuilding year for Raiders. Who knows....SWVA might win one and quit hating on Appo as "arrogant" pricks.
You are a different guy on the preps site. Expectedly so, you have back up there while here you are coming into the lion's den.
With that said, I have read your stuff here and thought highly of you as a poster. I then read your stuff on VApreps and concluded you are also an arrogant prick with an identity complex. There really is no need for you to be a dick on preps and come here to try and make mends. Your statements about SWVA concludes my opinion of you.
Is it not like that everywhere? To a certain extent. There are very few high school programs that can be dominate year after year. And the smaller the school the harder it is to establish a legacy like Central has.
I am not saying it is the same teams. Collectively, there are 5-6ish teams that are good. The rest usually are not very good.
Your original premise is that SWVA girls basketball is very good. I disagree with that statement.
I do see what your saying. And to a degree you are correct. For the last 4 years 1A and 2A has been dominated by west schools.
2017 PM vs GW
2016 Northwood vs Appomattox
2015 Clintwood Vs Twin Valley
2014 Chilhowie vs Honaker
So in the last 4 years only one eastern team was good enough to get to the final game.
I can agree that the West, specifically SWVA, dominated the state tournament in girls basketball.
However, as a whole, it is not super competitive down there. SWVA has roughly 5-6ish teams from 1A-3A who are good any given year. After that, the median level of competition is rough.
There is a lot of good basketball in single A and AA. I’m pretty sure in the last 4 years Honaker has made it to the championship game once and Final 4 twice.
You said a lot... You named one team. Please tell me the good teams from the 16/17 year in 1a/2a girls basketball in SWVA.
1A: Wythe. Honaker/Eastside branching into being good teams a times and bad teams at times.
2a: Central, Ridgeview, Abingdon (but this is subjective. They are a 3a school playing a bunch of 1/2a schools. Good players but compared to 3am girls ball they are above average we will say. I cannot remember how they finished up 3a wise last year but I do not think they made it out of conference due to injuries).
Teams people will likely say that really aren't good teams... But will mention them for the sake of the argument mainly because they won their conference or were competitive: Virginia High, Gate City, Union,
C40 was/is the best girls basketball conference in the state. Hands down. GC/Central/Ridgeview/Union have had solid teams in the past and at the same time. Lee was once a powerhouse as well in girls ball. Toss in Abingdon to that mix and they is a crazy good Region now.
Sure there have been a good team or two in the past but a consistent look at teams in the area is they are pretty weak. Exceptions exist as well as opinions. This coming from someone who has seen nearly every team SWVA has to offer in 1a/2a boys/girls basketball in the past 5-7 years.
3 schools out of what 37/38 schools? Not a very good percentage. Outside of C40, girls basketball is pretty rough across the board. Sure there is always one team a bit better than others but generally, there is a large gap between the number 1 team and the middle of the pack team.
I have reasons for being a bitter old fart about those tournaments... Lol. I won't get into them here.
Duly noted.
What other options do we have in SWVA? To my knowledge, we have the Va High tourneys, fort chiswell (which is a stretch to get to), and the UVAW tourneys. Options are limited. Plus most teams are not very good.
Yeah, you're probably right... I still think that tournament and the boys tournament both over there are a joke.
I would assume one of the players who quit was the one who hit the end of regulation buzzer beater against Ridgeview, since I think she was the coach's daughter and an 8th grader at that.
If Rv had won it I am sure it would not be a “joke” of a tournament.
Props to the tournament directors for trying. It’s not the coal classic of the past but are indeed trying.
Yeah, and apparently something big happened because Shelby Valley's coach quit and some of his players did as well after the Ridgeview game Friday night. Wished they could've at least waited till Saturday night and did that, so maybe they would've beat Central.
I'm not a big fan of that tournament after this weekend... I was going to go Saturday, but I got word at the last minute that we weren't going to be playing Union because of the tournament organizers not wanting two district teams to play in a losers game.
Well, easy fix... don't schedule three teams from one district to play in the tournament to start with, and two teams from the same district in Kentucky as well (Shelby Valley and East Ridge). So, instead we got placed in the 7th place game against an outmatched Graham team that got rolled by 45.
I doubt the tournament organizer gave a crap. If Union-Ridgeview played the gate would have been larger. It was probably the ADs of one or both schools not wanting to play. With C40 being highly contested maybe one team was not wanting all their cards to be placed on the table in early December? Just a guess
A more accurate statement would be. "No one else in SWVA should be able to play with them." This is girls basketball we are talking about, Anything is possible!!
Uhm no, fairly confident in my statements. Just because it isn’t girls basketball does not mean “anything can happen”. Hurley would not beat PM once if they’ve played 1000 times.
I was just responding because you said no one in SWVA could play with them. Didn't know you only meant 1A. Also, Floyd has an enrollment of about 600. What is the enrollment of PM? Just curious, I know it has to be below 450.
We both have access tot he VHSL's numbers... I am not looking it up but I am guessing around 300-350? Furthermore, neither FC or PM is technically in SWVA. 1A SWVA cannot play with PM, there is that a better statement for you? I feel like I have covered all of my parameters. Let me know if I need to be more specific.
Regardless, Dook lost to BC today, does that mean Dook is still not the favorite to win the NCAA this year?
Thanks a good friend of mine also said to check narrows out as well as Eastside I have picked a couple dates out to see them.
Your the second person on here that's told me to check McCluer out. They are defending so I'd like to see what they have and who's returning but it's 3 hours away. I'd like to see them against someone down here.
Save yourself the drive around SWVA and just go watch PM. They won state last year and return a bulk, if not all, of their starters and players. If PM does not win this year then it will be shocking. No one else in SWVA can play with them.
They very well might be a force to deal with this year. The won big today over a George wythe team that played for the state title last year ? I'm not entirely sure how many returners George wythe has but this has to be a good win for the tigers either way.
Wythe lost like 6-7 seniors. Literally, the cupboard is empty in Wytheville. Dougie is a good coach however but still, a win is a win but this IMO is not a hang your hat on it kind of win.
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Graham beats Mavahi...
in SWVA Basketball
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Anyone else find that article kind of tough to read?
Regardless, the GMen looking strong early on. I doubt they can knock off GC but they are going to be a TOUGH runner up coming out of the Region D. If the stars align and Carlock schemes up something to contain McClung or Ervin and the GMen score at will it could be an interesting game, however.