EH31 Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 wow lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield_Rules Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Are you surprised? That's what happen you shoot the basketball more times than the rest of your teammates combined. A number of other NBA players could and could have scored that many if they were as selfish as Bryant is. So put me in the group of being unimpressed by this "feat." I have no respect for selfish players that put personal accomplishment over team accomplishment. That isn't what sports is about and Bryant is a black eye for the TEAM concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 How many shots did he take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhsfan88 Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Kobe was 28-46 with 6 rebounds and 2 assists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sources Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Are you surprised? That's what happen you shoot the basketball more times than the rest of your teammates combined. A number of other NBA players could and could have scored that many if they were as selfish as Bryant is. So put me in the group of being unimpressed by this "feat." I have no respect for selfish players that put personal accomplishment over team accomplishment. That isn't what sports is about and Bryant is a black eye for the TEAM concept.  [/ QUOTE ]  "It just happened, man" Bryant said. "It really hasn't, like, set in for me. It's about the `W,' that's why I turned it on. It turned into something special."  - Kobe Bryant   Yes, that really sounds like the words of a selfish individual. I thought the whole point of basketball was to win (which they did) and do the thing which gives your team the best chance of winning (putting the ball in the hands of your best player). This man can do nothing without being scrutinized because if I recall, last month when he dropped 62 points on Dallas and sat out the entire fourth quarter he was being criticized for that as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield_Rules Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 This is the entire reason Kobe wanted rid of Shaq. He wanted a team 100% reliant on him, and ONLY him, to take 25-30 shots and score 35-40 a night just to be competitive. It really strokes his ego knowing he's the only go-to-man on his team. Â And Kobe spare me with the "all I wanted was to get the win" B.S. The only ones buying that are the Kobe worshipers like Sources... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 lol if you pay attention to kobe you can see he trys to talk and act like micheal jordan infront of the media and reporters he is a selfish individual and i believe there has been players that could have droped 81 or more if they wasnt as selfish as that and kobe really doesnt have a team around him im mean it is a good thing to have 81 points but im not that stund by it and it doesnt impress me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH31 Posted January 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 wilt chamberlain had 100 and when talking about selfish players noone ever mentions him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Here is why Chamberlain is never called "selfish"...  "One of the main reasons coaches asked him to shoot less was to try to win more. Of the 14 years he played in the NBA, only twice did his teams emerge with the NBA title. In 1966-67, Sixers Coach Alex Hannum asked Chamberlain to pass the ball more often than shoot, and to play more aggressive defense. The strategy worked. Although he failed to win the NBA scoring title for the first time in his career, averaging 24.1 points, Chamberlain recorded the league's highest shooting percentage (.683), had the most rebounds (24.2 rpg), and was third in assists (7.8 apg).  Chamberlain took his new role so seriously that he led the league in assists the next season."  http://www.nba.com/history/players/chamberlain_bio.html   He sacrificed his "numbers" and "scoring" in order to make the team better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield_Rules Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 And Wilt never ran another star player off his team like Kobe did Shaq. In fact, Wilt took a pay-cut twice during his career so that his respective teams, at the time, could sign better players to help him win NBA titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH31 Posted January 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 i wasn't pulling out anything on wilt.. i was just wondering why his name hadn't came up, i knew about leading in assists later in the year but i diudnt know about the other stuff. but imo with the team kobe has around him shooting 20+ times a game gives them the best chance to win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefield_Rules Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 [ QUOTE ] but imo with the team kobe has around him shooting 20+ times a game gives them the best chance to win  [/ QUOTE ]  Exactly, that's my entire point. Kobe had a championship caliber team, but his whining and mandate that he wasn't playing with anymore Shaq destroyed that. As I said previously, Kobe wanted less talented players around him so that he looked better and needed to shot the ball everytime down the floor for them to compete. He's a selfish, self-centered, prima madonna... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH31 Posted January 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narz_Wave Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] but imo with the team kobe has around him shooting 20+ times a game gives them the best chance to win  [/ QUOTE ]  Exactly, that's my entire point. Kobe had a championship caliber team, but his whining and mandate that he wasn't playing with anymore Shaq destroyed that. As I said previously, Kobe wanted less talented players around him so that he looked better and needed to shot the ball everytime down the floor for them to compete. He's a selfish, self-centered, prima madonna...  [/ QUOTE ]  Agreed whole heartedly! Kobe could've had two fists full of rings had he learned to play TEAM ball, but he didn't, so I don't see Kobe getting another ring anytime soon if ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] but imo with the team kobe has around him shooting 20+ times a game gives them the best chance to win  [/ QUOTE ]  Exactly, that's my entire point. Kobe had a championship caliber team, but his whining and mandate that he wasn't playing with anymore Shaq destroyed that. As I said previously, Kobe wanted less talented players around him so that he looked better and needed to shot the ball everytime down the floor for them to compete. He's a selfish, self-centered, prima madonna...  [/ QUOTE ]  Agreed whole heartedly! Kobe could've had two fists full of rings had he learned to play TEAM ball, but he didn't, so I don't see Kobe getting another ring anytime soon if ever.  [/ QUOTE ]  Especially if they get Artest, which they said Lakers are back into the running for him now that Sac doesnt want him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogs52 Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 hes a ball hog and i dont like him at all!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 I'd like to see Artest and Kobe get into it. It may settle kobe down a little and he wont pull anymore stunts like he did to Mike Miller @ L.A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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