centerback15 10 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Hey last time everyone thought the SEC was to tough for West Virginia to handle. Georgia was to tough, physical, faster, and more battle tested. HMMM didn't the mounties win that game. Didn't WVU run up and down the field? But if the SEC is so physical then we shouldn't have been able to do that correct. Doubt them again i will be glad to hear you eat your words come January 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMoney55 11 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Hey last time everyone thought the SEC was to tough for West Virginia to handle. Georgia was to tough, physical, faster, and more battle tested. HMMM didn't the mounties win that game. Didn't WVU run up and down the field? But if the SEC is so physical then we shouldn't have been able to do that correct. Doubt them again i will be glad to hear you eat your words come January 8. [/ QUOTE ] hmmm...didnt WVU wet their pants when Georgia came back to tie the game? WVU pulled it out, but Georgia gave them a heck of a scare. its not like WVU "ran up and down the field" and even if you think they did, do you honestly think they could do that against LSU? youre out of your mind if you think they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwhisman 10 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 yeah!! now that's the spirit! WVU is not ranked #3 for no reason...yeah they lost to a above-average USF team...but almost everyone has lost to some team not ranked...i do recall the week 4 out of the top 5 teams lost we were the only team to lose to a ranked team...RANKED! and as saw before we are ranked top 20 in the top defensive categories...now idk if that means anything to you...but looks pretty impressive to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JJBrickface Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Hey last time everyone thought the SEC was to tough for West Virginia to handle. Georgia was to tough, physical, faster, and more battle tested. HMMM didn't the mounties win that game. Didn't WVU run up and down the field? But if the SEC is so physical then we shouldn't have been able to do that correct. Doubt them again i will be glad to hear you eat your words come January 8. [/ QUOTE ] hmmm...didnt WVU wet their pants when Georgia came back to tie the game? WVU pulled it out, but Georgia gave them a heck of a scare. its not like WVU "ran up and down the field" and even if you think they did, do you honestly think they could do that against LSU? youre out of your mind if you think they can. [/ QUOTE ] Slaton set a Sugar Bowl rushing record with 204 yards, that my friend is running up and down the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogeavers 10 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Hey last time everyone thought the SEC was to tough for West Virginia to handle. Georgia was to tough, physical, faster, and more battle tested. HMMM didn't the mounties win that game. Didn't WVU run up and down the field? But if the SEC is so physical then we shouldn't have been able to do that correct. Doubt them again i will be glad to hear you eat your words come January 8. [/ QUOTE ] hmmm...didnt WVU wet their pants when Georgia came back to tie the game? WVU pulled it out, but Georgia gave them a heck of a scare. its not like WVU "ran up and down the field" and even if you think they did, do you honestly think they could do that against LSU? youre out of your mind if you think they can. [/ QUOTE ] I do think they can. I know they can if they play up to their potential. When a team gives up 24 points to a very, very sub-par Alabama team. If the o-line blocks, WVU can run all over that Tiger defense. Both teams have to concentrate on the teams at hand right now and not look ahead to the title game. Just ask Michigan about that looking over an opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie07 11 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] You and I aren't watching the same Defense. WVU is very physical this year. You have to realize we usually only rush 3 people...all linemen. Occasionally we send a linebacker or spur or bandit. If you have watched the defense all year.....they have been very physical. [/ QUOTE ] They may rush three, but they have problems covering the pass. and yeah their d line is amazing, i mean they play the best teams ever in the big east and that non conference schedule is a killer... and trust me, you dont rush three everytime. If a team can constantly rush 3 and get pressure, no team could ever be able to put points on the board against them... [/ QUOTE ] Do they really have trouble? I think they are doing pretty good. [/ QUOTE ] If you say so. They are ranked 70th in strength of schedule. Marshall is 54th and they are a mid-major team in the C-USA. So talk up the defense all you want, but I am sure that they will have their hands more than full trying to stop a high powered offense. It will be a shootout and whoever reaches 50 will win the game. Even with WVU's high powered offense, I highly doubt that they could put up that many points. Assuming they hang onto the football and do not throw those screen passes (which any decent defense would eat alive), then they might have an outside chance of hanging with the big dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] You and I aren't watching the same Defense. WVU is very physical this year. You have to realize we usually only rush 3 people...all linemen. Occasionally we send a linebacker or spur or bandit. If you have watched the defense all year.....they have been very physical. [/ QUOTE ] They may rush three, but they have problems covering the pass. and yeah their d line is amazing, i mean they play the best teams ever in the big east and that non conference schedule is a killer... and trust me, you dont rush three everytime. If a team can constantly rush 3 and get pressure, no team could ever be able to put points on the board against them... [/ QUOTE ] Do they really have trouble? I think they are doing pretty good. [/ QUOTE ] If you say so. They are ranked 70th in strength of schedule. Marshall is 54th and they are a mid-major team in the C-USA. So talk up the defense all you want, but I am sure that they will have their hands more than full trying to stop a high powered offense. It will be a shootout and whoever reaches 50 will win the game. Even with WVU's high powered offense, I highly doubt that they could put up that many points. Assuming they hang onto the football and do not throw those screen passes (which any decent defense would eat alive), then they might have an outside chance of hanging with the big dogs. [/ QUOTE ] My question is: which team with a "high-powered offense" are we talking about? The two remaining on the schedule are Connecticut and Pittsburgh. Here are how their total offenses stack up nationally: Connecticut: 86th Pittsburgh: 104th Likewise, neither team has put up fifty points this season. I don't know if I missed the original point, but from here until the bowl game, West Virginia's defense will have no problem whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie07 11 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 I am talking about their national title hopes... I am sure they will have no problem with the final two games of their schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Ah, fair enough, then. I think that an LSU-West Virginia matchup would be close, personally. I believe LSU would win, but it would make for a great game. I'd give analysis, but I'm beat. Good night, and happy Thanksgiving, all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 For all the WVU fans out there, dont be so quick to think your defense is amazing. Heres why: Your defense isnt playing very good competition. Dont believe me? well here ya go: Total Offense W Mich. - 58 Marshall- 50 Maryland- 96 ECU- 77 USF- 30 Cuse- 115 Miss St.- 114 Rutgers- 24 (without teel however) L'ville- 9 Cincy- 33 Pitt- 105 Uconn- 88 Thats an average of around 67. that is the upper half of the NCAA. of these teams, 5 of them average less than 205 passing yards a game. How is that supposed to test WVU's defense? What offenses has WVU faced? In comparison, lets take Hawaii for example. The offenses they play average out to be 66 (65.6 to be exact) ... hmmm... anybody want to say Hawaii plays a tough schedule that tests their defense? What im saying is that WVU hasnt played any offenses that could test them and break them. they are not as physical as the SEC teams, anyone who thinks they are doesnt watch CBS on saturdays... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefieldRocks 14 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 [ QUOTE ] What im saying is that WVU hasnt played any offenses that could test them. they are not as physical as the SECteams, anyone who thinks they are doesnt watch CBS on saturdays.. [/ QUOTE ] Quick question. What conference does Miss. St play in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 [ QUOTE ] What im saying is that WVU hasnt played any offenses that could test them. they are not as physical as the SECteams, anyone who thinks they are doesnt watch CBS on saturdays.. [/ QUOTE ] Quick question. What conference does Miss. St play in? [/ QUOTE ] thats one team out of 12, and they def dwell in the bottom of the SEC... thats no comparison... BTW... LSU beat them 45-0, held them to under 150 total yards of offense, which includes 10 yards on the ground. WVU... well they gave up 13 points, more yards passing than LSU did total, and also didnt even amass 100 yards in the air... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefieldRocks 14 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 WVU beat Miss St Miss ST beat Kentucky Kentucky beat LSU You spin me right round baby right round like a record baby right round round round... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 [ QUOTE ] WVU beat Miss St Miss ST beat Kentucky Kentucky beat LSU You spin me right round baby right round like a record baby right round round round... [/ QUOTE ] here we go again... Duke beat Northwestern Northwestern beat Michigan state michigan state beat pittsburg pittsburg beat syracuse syracuse beat louiville louiville beat cincinatti cincinatti beat South FLorida USF beat WVU WVU beat Miss St Miss st beat Kentucky Kentucky beat LSU. Everyone knows the Duke Blue Devils are better than LSU. Duh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] WVU beat Miss St Miss ST beat Kentucky Kentucky beat LSU You spin me right round baby right round like a record baby right round round round... [/ QUOTE ] here we go again... Duke beat Northwestern Northwestern beat Michigan state michigan state beat pittsburg pittsburg beat syracuse syracuse beat louiville louiville beat cincinatti cincinatti beat South FLorida USF beat WVU WVU beat Miss St Miss st beat Kentucky Kentucky beat LSU. Everyone knows the Duke Blue Devils are better than LSU. Duh! [/ QUOTE ] Bingo! You can't use the transitive property when talking about football. If there was one lesson I could teach every football fan when starting out, it's that the transitive property is a CROCK when applied to football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogeavers 10 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 I still think that a LSU-v-WVU title game would be a lot more exciting and fun to watch than last year's onslaught. Either way, WVU has a good shot to make it and if they do, I don't want to hear that the polls are BS. At the beginning of the season, we were hammering teams, but yet we still dropped in the polls. I am biased because I am a WVU fan, but I think there are some other fans out there, just maybe, that would like to see WVU's spread offense against that fast Tiger defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRIDIRON 10 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Sounds like the ACC is a little bitter that they don't and won't have a represenative in the top five not to mention the national championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie07 11 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Sounds like the ACC is a little bitter that they don't and won't have a represenative in the top five not to mention the national championship. [/ QUOTE ] Not at all. It is just that there are at least 5 teams in the ACC that could do exactly what WVU is doing. Beat up on WEAK schedule in a WEAK conference, get beat by an AVERAGE South Florida team in week 5, and possibly get to play for a National title. But I don't know, you all played Mississippi State so you should be ready... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEAVERTAIL Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Sounds like the ACC is a little bitter that they don't and won't have a represenative in the top five not to mention the national championship. [/ QUOTE ] Not at all. It is just that there are at least 5 teams in the ACC that could do exactly what WVU is doing. Beat up on WEAK schedule in a WEAK conference, get beat by an AVERAGE South Florida team in week 5, and possibly get to play for a National title. But I don't know, you all played Mississippi State so you should be ready... [/ QUOTE ] amen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMoney55 11 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 the ACC is weak this year. People are basing schedule strength for ACC teams on prestige...Miami, FSU, so on. Miami is garbage this year, FSU is garbage, they arent good teams. The ACC is weak and I personally feel that the Big East is the stronger conference of the two. This is coming from a guy who's favorite team is in the Pac 10 so im not biased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie07 11 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 [ QUOTE ] the ACC is weak this year. People are basing schedule strength for ACC teams on prestige...Miami, FSU, so on. Miami is garbage this year, FSU is garbage, they arent good teams. The ACC is weak and I personally feel that the Big East is the stronger conference of the two. This is coming from a guy who's favorite team is in the Pac 10 so im not biased. [/ QUOTE ] I will be one of the first to tell you that the ACC is not strong this year, and has been down in the past couple of years. But, there is no doubt in my mind that the top 4 in the ACC this year could do exactly what WVU is doing, given the preseason ranking. Boston College, Clemson, UVA, and Virginia Tech would be very strong favorites to win the Big East, and at any time 2 out of those 4 could run the table in the Big East. Georgia Tech, Wake, Florida State, and even Miami could beat the majority of the teams in the Big East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] the ACC is weak this year. People are basing schedule strength for ACC teams on prestige...Miami, FSU, so on. Miami is garbage this year, FSU is garbage, they arent good teams. The ACC is weak and I personally feel that the Big East is the stronger conference of the two. This is coming from a guy who's favorite team is in the Pac 10 so im not biased. [/ QUOTE ] I will be one of the first to tell you that the ACC is not strong this year, and has been down in the past couple of years. But, there is no doubt in my mind that the top 4 in the ACC this year could do exactly what WVU is doing, given the preseason ranking. Boston College, Clemson, UVA, and Virginia Tech would be very strong favorites to win the Big East, and at any time 2 out of those 4 could run the table in the Big East. Georgia Tech, Wake, Florida State, and even Miami could beat the majority of the teams in the Big East. [/ QUOTE ] Forgot about Clemson. We've been down this road quite often. The ACC is not bitter; anyone outside of a rabid fan will tell you that the conference is not having one of its stronger years. However, the Big East is right there, tooth and nail, duking it out for least prestigious among the major conferences. The SEC, Big XII, and Pac-10 are the top half, and there's little dispute about that. I say the Big 10/11 is fourth, even though ESPN loves to hype them up. If nothing else, at least the ACC has an automatic bid to a BCS game. The Big East can't boast of that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMoney55 11 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 im pretty sure the winner of the Big East gets a BCS game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JJBrickface Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 [ QUOTE ] im pretty sure the winner of the Big East gets a BCS game. [/ QUOTE ] Correct. I dont know what he is talking about. Every BCS conference gets an automatic bid. Also Observer, how can you say that the Big Ten is better than the ACC or Big East. The Big 10 isn't very good in my opinion. Ohio St and Illinois are having very good seasons. Other then that they are pertty mediocre. They may be the only conference this year to have two teams lost to Div. 1-AA teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account 5,203 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 My apologies, my last post was definitely not my brightest. I was basing the statement on the Big East off the 2005 version of the BCS eligibility, not the current 2007-2010 eligibility. The source: http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/eligibility However, it's not hard to defend my statement that the Big 10/11 is the fourth best conference. I love to bash the Big 10/11 as much as anyone, believe me. However, credit where credit's due. I will state one statistic that is the foundation of my belief. The Big 10/11 fields a whopping ten teams (of a possible 11) that are bowl-eligible; this ties the SEC's ten bowl-eligible teams (of a possible 12). The Big East has just five of eight, and the ACC has just seven of twelve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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