thundercloud 179 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Really need the Coal Field Express Way now. When you think about how quickly a person will be able to commute between Beckley and whereever the other end will be, could allow the working parents with kids to commute and not move. Has anybody been keeping up with all these steel companies buying out the metaleric coal, one which belongs to somebody in India(and their industrializing). Coal prices possiblity going off the chart in the next few years. Couldn't this cause some growth in the next few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Wal-Mart - word is they're waiting until Main St. gets done b4 they start building, so it'll be a while yet. --again...was supposed to open in spring of 2007...not even started yet. About the CFX - Alpha changed the path so it doesn't bother Looney's Creek or Harman - it'll be beside 6 & 20 now and go straight up the hill to within a mile of P-Gap. Easy access from Hurley/Slate Creek, and just minutes from downtown. --again...been talked about for 20 years...hasn't started yet. About the school - talked to someone about 10 years ago about remodeling - can't be done at a reasonable cost. No room to build new while the old is still there, unless they lose the ballfield for about 4 years. The Jr. High & Garden were easy to fix once they were empty. There's no place left that could be a temp. HS for 2 years. --worst case, put some temp units down at Riverview for 2 years...if the population is in the 400 range and on the decline for 9-12th graders then that's not a lot of students to displace...OR...ship them over to Hurley High for 2 years...yeah I know how popular that would be...but if that was the other option, Riverview would suddenly find a way to make it happen. Yeah, Hurley will prob. close, but I think TV will stay open. --Hurley could come to Grundy once the existing school was redone. About the town - Rem., it's not the town, it's VDOT and the Corps that's footing the bill and dragging their feet. In case you didn't know, the "new town" will be up high - they're moving the courthouse & jail up there, too. All that will be left down here is lawyers, maybe the PO, a bank and the new museum showing the old Grundy (I've got some Lynwood & Ben Franklin stuff waiting for someplace to go). --don't forget the Mayors boat cars... The Airport - Don't understand the whole deal. They've killed the new one on Harman to expand the old one. But that will require closing it for, oh, about 5 years. I'd say we'll end up with a landing strip while they mine out the old one. Don't really know what they can do with a mile-long runway in the middle of nowhere. --The town wouldn't know what to do if Donald Trump wanted to build a casino and a resort complex...but, then again the Smith's would just buy up joining land plots to keep them out and prevent ANYTHING productive from EVER being built in Grundy...doesn't matter if it's old Grundy, New Grundy, or Poplar Gap Grundy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VHSLhelper 571 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 [ QUOTE ] About the CFX ..... --again...been talked about for 20 years...hasn't started yet. About the school... --worst case, put some temp units down at Riverview for 2 years...if the population is in the 400 range and on the decline for 9-12th graders then that's not a lot of students to displace...OR...ship them over to Hurley High for 2 years...yeah I know how popular that would be...but if that was the other option, Riverview would suddenly find a way to make it happen. [/ QUOTE ] CFX HAS to get started. KY's been working on the new 460 from near Shelby Valley High over to the Breaks for a couple of years now... VDOT has to get it over to Grundy somehow, so those few miles (through P-Gap) are a priority. --- Wow... imagine the bus ride from Prater to Hurley. Here's a (really bad) idea ... close Grundy, and the kids could go to 1 of the other schools, since they aren't full. I wonder how many county seats in America don't have a HS within a couple of miles of the town limits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] About the CFX ..... --again...been talked about for 20 years...hasn't started yet. About the school... --worst case, put some temp units down at Riverview for 2 years...if the population is in the 400 range and on the decline for 9-12th graders then that's not a lot of students to displace...OR...ship them over to Hurley High for 2 years...yeah I know how popular that would be...but if that was the other option, Riverview would suddenly find a way to make it happen. [/ QUOTE ] CFX HAS to get started. KY's been working on the new 460 from near Shelby Valley High over to the Breaks for a couple of years now... VDOT has to get it over to Grundy somehow, so those few miles (through P-Gap) are a priority. --- Wow... imagine the bus ride from Prater to Hurley. Here's a (really bad) idea ... close Grundy, and the kids could go to 1 of the other schools, since they aren't full. I wonder how many county seats in America don't have a HS within a couple of miles of the town limits? [/ QUOTE ] ---the only thing is...it takes them FOREVER to do ANYTHING in Grundy...if it is like any other project they have done, once they actually start it you can figure 15 to 20 years to complete it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzo5 10 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 yeah, if it came down to it, Hurley would go to Grundy, with Twin Valley staying open and Council being moved it into or something like that most kids from council would go to honaker with that probably, Just with the price of gas(even though there was a drop here resently) I just don't see Buchanan county sending buses into all the hills and hollows and trying to find a location that would make sense for that. Popluar gap is not it for sure think of the bus ride from slate top of slate creek/compton mtn. to there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VHSLhelper 571 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 it actually won't be that bad. Go down to Rockhouse and hop up to the CFX. Lance, you say it takes 15-20 years. Can you name even 1 project that Grundy has actually started AND finished???? I can't think of any. Only thing that came to mind was the law school, and like the new FC, I'm thinking that was more of a private project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 [ QUOTE ] it actually won't be that bad. Go down to Rockhouse and hop up to the CFX. Lance, you say it takes 15-20 years. Can you name even 1 project that Grundy has actually started AND finished???? I can't think of any. Only thing that came to mind was the law school, and like the new FC, I'm thinking that was more of a private project. [/ QUOTE ] well...lol...by "complete" I define that as them removing the construction equipment...not actually finishing what was started and or planned...kinda like the 4 lane project...didn't make it past the Friendly Market. And ...just to give those who don't know an inside look at the great Grundy projects of past, we are probably the only part of the state that started out with a 2 lane road...made improvements to it and expanded it to a 4 lane road...then LOWERED the speed limit on that same road by HALF for almost 10 years before raising it up to a level still LOWER than the original 2 lane highway was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercloud 179 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 As anxious as the state is about closing schools and saving money, you would think they would seek getting parts of the Coalfield Express prioritized(has to built anyway), would be a win, win for everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr4hurleyfb 12 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 #1, is the demand for flying at such an alarming rate that more airport room is needed? I sincerely doubt it. Instead of whining and lobbying for a "bigger airport", I say let some private investor put the money up for it if the need is there and the potential exists. When a bunch of lousy *ss politicians are the only ones crying for it (this makes their re-election resumes look nice), that should tell you something. #2, CFX is another thing. You don't build roads hoping that people will drive on them, and suddenly decide they want to buy a home or start a business. You build roads to alleviate traffic congestion. And besides, quicker, easier access to places like Beckley, Wise, and Pikeville isn't going to be a boom for Grundy. Its going to be a boom for people who live NEAR or in Grundy, who can suddenly drive to such places for better jobs that actually EXIST. 90% of the jobs that come to Southwest Virginia only come to this area because politicians lobby for money to basically grant these business a 5 year "free start". They get their leases paid, they pay less taxes, they face no construction costs. This money ought to be invested in actual local businesses, you know, the ones that are already here and aren't likely to leave because Tucson, Arizona just offered a better package deal. #3, the school situation was, is, and always will be a problem. Unless Buchanan County agrees to send certain kids from remote corners of the county to neighboring counties, the issue of travel time will always exist. Even with money to build schools at precise locations, the population of the county still isn't enough to support this. Quite frankly, I'm pro-anything that doesn't require me to give the Federal and State governments any more of my money because they have proven that they aren't worth a plug nickel at spending it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghs84 10 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 740 was the cut-off last year, and Richlands was just 30 over that. Just need to shift a couple dozen to Tazewell & all 3 could be A. Of course, with a few new big schools and some enrollment gains by those right below, the Blues might be A next time around without any line-tweaking. [/ QUOTE ] Precisely...the time will come when all three drop to Class A and that time is drawing ever so near... [/ QUOTE ] Graham has had single A enrollment numbers for years.so its coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott 10 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 are the numbers still sliding at graham? or have they leveled off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghs84 10 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 well i would say about the same.on the 1989 championship team Graham had 45 players,and that was 19 years ago.and they have 39 this year.the classes in 89 were like this 12 SRs 6 JRs 13 SO 14 FR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott 10 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 that's not a bad drop off, what about in overall enrollment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghs84 10 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 enrollment right now is around the 500 mark.overall it hasnt been a major drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott 10 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 One of the reasons I was asking is that when GHS goes to (A), will the schoolboard balk at the fee for playing at Mitchell Stadium imposed by the city of Bluefield? Just something to think about.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPF 417 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 [ QUOTE ] One of the reasons I was asking is that when GHS goes to (A), will the schoolboard balk at the fee for playing at Mitchell Stadium imposed by the city of Bluefield? Just something to think about.... [/ QUOTE ] Why would that ever happen? Did they start stop spending money if you are a lower classisfication? The school board has a couple of choices here, build a stadium which with construction costs would be in the neighborhood of 3 to 5 million for a crackerbox, muchless a decent place to play. Or they could continue to pay the 35K to the city of Bluefield for Graham to play in a top notch facility. Seems like a no brainer to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghs84 10 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 [ QUOTE ] One of the reasons I was asking is that when GHS goes to (A), will the schoolboard balk at the fee for playing at Mitchell Stadium imposed by the city of Bluefield? Just something to think about.... [/ QUOTE ] a new school and a new stadium is what Graham has needed for years.but CPF is right a new stadium is not gonna happen in my lifetime.and its cheaper to just pay the fees to play at mitchell,and besides thats been home to the G-Men forever.but to answer your question no.they arent going to lower the fees,raise is probably more like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhs7695 185 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] One of the reasons I was asking is that when GHS goes to (A), will the schoolboard balk at the fee for playing at Mitchell Stadium imposed by the city of Bluefield? Just something to think about.... [/ QUOTE ] a new school and a new stadium is what Graham has needed for years.but CPF is right a new stadium is not gonna happen in my lifetime.and its cheaper to just pay the fees to play at mitchell,and besides thats been home to the G-Men forever.but to answer your question no.they arent going to lower the fees,raise is probably more like it. [/ QUOTE ] Graham doesn't need their own stadium. Why would there need to be TWO stadiums for HIGH SCHOOL football less then three miles apart IN BLUEFIELD??? Is Graham and Bluefield playing their games in the same stadium that big of a problem to either school? Look how many team played "home games" at the old Victory Stadium in Roanoke and how many teams play their "home games" at Laidley Field in Charleston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghs84 10 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 i think every school needs their own stadium.but Graham and Bluefield are in a different situation.neither school has their own stadium,but both schools have played at mitchell forever and that is those schools home field.the victory stadium deal was the best thing to happen there.doesnt william fleming have a top notch facility to call home now.like i said those are different situations.that stadium wasnt safe to play in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveler4 10 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 [ QUOTE ] And ...just to give those who don't know an inside look at the great Grundy projects of past, we are probably the only part of the state that started out with a 2 lane road...made improvements to it and expanded it to a 4 lane road...then LOWERED the speed limit on that same road by HALF for almost 10 years before raising it up to a level still LOWER than the original 2 lane highway was. [/ QUOTE ] You do know that "Grundy" doesn't decide what the speed limit is on roads that are not even in town limits, right? Isn't that VDOT's job? What an odd complaint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveler4 10 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 [ QUOTE ] #2, CFX is another thing. You don't build roads hoping that people will drive on them, and suddenly decide they want to buy a home or start a business. You build roads to alleviate traffic congestion. And besides, quicker, easier access to places like Beckley, Wise, and Pikeville isn't going to be a boom for Grundy. Its going to be a boom for people who live NEAR or in Grundy, who can suddenly drive to such places for better jobs that actually EXIST. [/ QUOTE ] Roads aren't only built to alleviate traffic congestion. Isn't the point of the CFX to make transportation easier and this area more accessible? And it's not going to be a "boom" for people, maybe a boon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance 228 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] And ...just to give those who don't know an inside look at the great Grundy projects of past, we are probably the only part of the state that started out with a 2 lane road...made improvements to it and expanded it to a 4 lane road...then LOWERED the speed limit on that same road by HALF for almost 10 years before raising it up to a level still LOWER than the original 2 lane highway was. [/ QUOTE ] You do know that "Grundy" doesn't decide what the speed limit is on roads that are not even in town limits, right? Isn't that VDOT's job? What an odd complaint. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know who does it...all I know is that the county cops camped out at Deel and wrote about a zillion bucks worth of tickets lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr4hurleyfb 12 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 460 isn't some BFE road that nobody has heard of. It has 4 lanes of road practically everywhere but through Grundy. If people aren't flocking to the region now, I seriously doubt building another road is gonna bring them in by the droves, do you? I am sure that there are more populated and/or much worse conditioned roadways that need seeing to a lot sooner than SWVA ever needs a CFX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubbycurrence 10 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Yelp. Guesses Fork needs some attention! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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